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Reply #30 posted 04/20/07 12:46pm

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TotalAlisa said:

one2three said:

Please...do not let the avatar fool you.


These same people, like Cam, shucking and jiving, acting like he is hood and has to "keep his street cred" are the same ones complaining how we as black people don't get any respect and "the man" is holding them down.

why didn't blacks get respect 200 years ago... why were they made slaves... and even after slavery was over they still did NOT get treated well... it doesnt have to do with what a few bad blacks have said or done... its because someone is racist.....

YOU can't just see one person of a race do something and then not respect their race as a whole... that is what racism is.... and if you are black.. you sound like you have self-hate issues...or you are just plain racist...

only a person with serious issues..who can NOT reason... thinks the way you do...


Fine...think what you want to thnk of me.
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Reply #31 posted 04/20/07 4:48pm

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Rhondab said:




So basically Cam represents you as a black person?
He's your voice?


No where in my statement did I say he represented me.
[Edited 4/20/07 12:44pm]



The fact that you're so offend AND seemingly embarrassed by Cam's statement tells that what this mans says carries some weight with you.
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Reply #32 posted 04/20/07 5:08pm

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Why IS Anderson Cooper let along 60 Minutes interviewing this D-List rapper anyway??
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Reply #33 posted 04/20/07 6:05pm

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one2three said:

And they wonder why other races has no respect for black people as a whole.


umm your comment so ignorant i have to laugh lol

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What is ignorant about his statement. Other races and cultrues do not have respect for black people. They see idiots like Cameron and other rappers and they think they represent all black people.

The media is very powerful and the negative images are being sent out all around the world.
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Reply #34 posted 04/20/07 6:09pm

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TotalAlisa said:

one2three said:

Please...do not let the avatar fool you.


These same people, like Cam, shucking and jiving, acting like he is hood and has to "keep his street cred" are the same ones complaining how we as black people don't get any respect and "the man" is holding them down.

why didn't blacks get respect 200 years ago... why were they made slaves... and even after slavery was over they still did NOT get treated well... it doesnt have to do with what a few bad blacks have said or done... its because someone is racist.....

YOU can't just see one person of a race do something and then not respect their race as a whole... that is what racism is.... and if you are black.. you sound like you have self-hate issues...or you are just plain racist...

only a person with serious issues..who can NOT reason... thinks the way you do...

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"YOU can't just see one person of a race do something and then not respect their race as a whole... that is what racism is.... and if you are black.. you sound like you have self-hate issues...or you are just plain racist... "
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It is not black people who think this. It is people of other races who see not one person acting ignorant but,thousands. Since we do have thousands of rappers and thousands of young people imatating them.


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Reply #35 posted 04/20/07 6:48pm

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TotalAlisa said:


why didn't blacks get respect 200 years ago... why were they made slaves... and even after slavery was over they still did NOT get treated well... it doesnt have to do with what a few bad blacks have said or done... its because someone is racist.....

YOU can't just see one person of a race do something and then not respect their race as a whole... that is what racism is.... and if you are black.. you sound like you have self-hate issues...or you are just plain racist...

only a person with serious issues..who can NOT reason... thinks the way you do...

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"YOU can't just see one person of a race do something and then not respect their race as a whole... that is what racism is.... and if you are black.. you sound like you have self-hate issues...or you are just plain racist... "
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It is not black people who think this. It is people of other races who see not one person acting ignorant but,thousands. Since we do have thousands of rappers and thousands of young people imatating them.


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if someone has a brain.. they will KNOW that normal people are NOT like rappers.. and that rappers do NOT represent the image of black people..

ONLY an ignorant person.. who does NOT have any contact with blacks or even talk to blacks.. would think that black people are like rappers... and if you live in america and have not talked to a black person.. that makes me wonder if that person is prejudice...

a person who thinks reasonble would know that.. you can't stereotype a group of people...
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Reply #36 posted 04/20/07 6:50pm

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twink69 said:



umm your comment so ignorant i have to laugh lol

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What is ignorant about his statement. Other races and cultrues do not have respect for black people. They see idiots like Cameron and other rappers and they think they represent all black people.

The media is very powerful and the negative images are being sent out all around the world.

only a FOOL.. would think that camron represents black people... ONLY A FOOL.. what about Barak obama, Martin Luther King, Condeliza Rice, other intelligent blacks that you see on TV... and even others in the community....

if an ADULT sees a rapper on tv.. and thinks that all blacks are like this then they ... don't have a clue.. and they don't have any kind of reasoning
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Reply #37 posted 04/20/07 6:53pm

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if a young black man is being targeted all the time by police.. do you really think he wants to help them... would you help someone who is mistreating you...


Im a petite female and I would not help the police catch a serial killer because i would NOT want that serial killer to turn on me.. and kill me.. and thats the POlice duty to catch criminals.. NOT mine...
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Reply #38 posted 04/20/07 6:55pm

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one2three said:

And they wonder why other races has no respect for black people as a whole.

one more thing... if your going to think like that.. then do you think that Kramer guy.. and the broacater guy who called the female basket ball players "nappy headed hoes" represents the white race as a whole...


the difference is if minorities do something... people take that and stereotype them as a whole... and its not fair...
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Reply #39 posted 04/20/07 7:12pm

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Why IS Anderson Cooper let along 60 Minutes interviewing this D-List rapper anyway??


Subtle exploitation.

They'd rather let a minstrel show's buffon act the fool instead of letting a highly intelligent black men such as KRS-One or Mos Def or Common speak their minds. Why would Anderson Cooper interview a black man that will surpass his intelligence and his thinking's limitation? Thats THE no-no.

Black intelligence has been and will always be a threat to America. And mind you, its a shrewd move how they made him look like he's speaking for black youth.

As if you have to be a RAPPER in order to be a representative of black youth.
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Reply #40 posted 04/20/07 7:46pm

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one2three said:

And they wonder why other races has no respect for black people as a whole.


"And they wonder" Who is they? Who are these "other races" you're talking about? Just Say YOU-YOU are the one who doesn't have respect for black people as a whole. It's so obvious.
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Reply #41 posted 04/21/07 5:13am

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laurarichardson said:

twink69 said:



umm your comment so ignorant i have to laugh lol

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What is ignorant about his statement. Other races and cultrues do not have respect for black people. They see idiots like Cameron and other rappers and they think they represent all black people.

The media is very powerful and the negative images are being sent out all around the world.



well dang...let me back track...

you are right. eek

We've hit an all time low if Cam will sway anyone to believe this is how black ppl think and talk.
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Reply #42 posted 04/21/07 12:34pm

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Harlepolis said:

lastdecember said:

I saw an interview with ICE CUBE recently and even he admitted that the Rap Game now is just full of actors,posers, almost none of them are living the life they rap about, all their cars,jewels and girls are rented and so is their lifestyle.


Perfect "pot calling the kettle black" case. Cube had been an 'oreo' for a long time, like the ones he talked about in his music, so I don't think he have a room to talk the "holier than thou" talk.

In fact Cube is exactly like Cam, both are modern day jungle bunnies in a modern white owned plantation, who think they got relevance in the black community by "being down"(I.E. ignorant).



Yes, you're right here. But, unlike Cameldung, Cube once had talent before he cashed it in and turned into rabbit munching on all the lettuce Hollywood could throw his way.
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Reply #43 posted 04/21/07 12:38pm

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[/quote]Cam'ron is a liar. He's just saying that to generate publicity. He must have a cd ready to drop in a few weeks or something. Controversy sells records.[/quote]


Your right about that...The Dipsets have a album coming out on May 8th
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Reply #44 posted 04/21/07 1:06pm

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Thats great Cam'ron. If there ever was a time, if some firebug was torching youre house with you in it in the middle of the night,i think i'll just keep driving by.I hope I.R.S. fucks you up someday Jackass!
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Reply #45 posted 04/21/07 2:50pm

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ThePunisher said:

Harlepolis said:



Perfect "pot calling the kettle black" case. Cube had been an 'oreo' for a long time, like the ones he talked about in his music, so I don't think he have a room to talk the "holier than thou" talk.

In fact Cube is exactly like Cam, both are modern day jungle bunnies in a modern white owned plantation, who think they got relevance in the black community by "being down"(I.E. ignorant).
Easy E had a name for them. "Video Gangsta's". Man was he ever proven right.



Actually, it's Studio Gangstas! And for the record, wannabe gangstas comes in all skin-colors. Too many white kids in The Dirty South wish they were thugs too.
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Reply #46 posted 04/21/07 2:53pm

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one2three said:

And they wonder why other races has no respect for black people as a whole.


Even a well dress black doctor would get call a n***** by the same kind of white racists that would name call the black gangsta rap artists. So this potential flamebait you're using is very useless.
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Reply #47 posted 04/21/07 3:07pm

Harlepolis

Shapeshifter said:

Harlepolis said:



Perfect "pot calling the kettle black" case. Cube had been an 'oreo' for a long time, like the ones he talked about in his music, so I don't think he have a room to talk the "holier than thou" talk.

In fact Cube is exactly like Cam, both are modern day jungle bunnies in a modern white owned plantation, who think they got relevance in the black community by "being down"(I.E. ignorant).



Cube once had talent before he cashed it in and turned into rabbit munching on all the lettuce Hollywood could throw his way.


Which makes him even worse.
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Reply #48 posted 04/21/07 6:50pm

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TotalAlisa said:

laurarichardson said:


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What is ignorant about his statement. Other races and cultrues do not have respect for black people. They see idiots like Cameron and other rappers and they think they represent all black people.

The media is very powerful and the negative images are being sent out all around the world.

only a FOOL.. would think that camron represents black people... ONLY A FOOL.. what about Barak obama, Martin Luther King, Condeliza Rice, other intelligent blacks that you see on TV... and even others in the community....

if an ADULT sees a rapper on tv.. and thinks that all blacks are like this then they ... don't have a clue.. and they don't have any kind of reasoning

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How old are you? You have got to be young if you think other races don't sterotype black folks based off the crap that is in the media.

Of course it is wrong but the masses do it and the only thing we can do as a people is to check ourselves. Cameron is saying that he is okay with criminal behavior.

Don't snitch because you are helping the cops. Nevermind that a fucking serial killer could be taking black folks in the community out.

It is ignorant as hell and he is putting it out there that a certain segment of the black communinty is okay with crime. Other cultrues don't care if this segment is rappers that see us all as the same.

That is reality without all the p.c. bullshit.
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Reply #49 posted 04/21/07 6:52pm

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Rhondab said:

laurarichardson said:


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What is ignorant about his statement. Other races and cultrues do not have respect for black people. They see idiots like Cameron and other rappers and they think they represent all black people.

The media is very powerful and the negative images are being sent out all around the world.



well dang...let me back track...

you are right. eek
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We've hit an all time low if Cam will sway anyone to believe this is how black ppl think and talk.


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We hit an all time low a long time ago. You can put your head in the sand if you want to.
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Reply #50 posted 04/21/07 7:39pm

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:::wonders WHY Cam'ron was on 60 Minutes in the first place::: neutral
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Reply #51 posted 04/21/07 8:15pm

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:::wonders WHY Cam'ron was on 60 Minutes in the first place::: neutral


same here, and WHY this tiny portion of the interview is the only thing people are posting?
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Reply #52 posted 04/22/07 4:46pm

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Watching it now...


How stupid is this??? disbelief

Chump braggin about his cars... mad

And the kids are feeding into this mess disbelief
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Reply #53 posted 04/22/07 6:36pm

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I'm sorry but I couldn't help but laugh at how dumb Cam'ron looked saying all of that straight into the camera with a straight face. I also found it very disturbing that that teenage church group had the nerve to say they use the "no snitching" rule but yet and still if someone were to be mugged or something I'm sure they wouldn't tell who did it but it would benefit their lives greatly...
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Reply #54 posted 04/22/07 7:04pm

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I'm sorry but I couldn't help but laugh at how dumb Cam'ron looked saying all of that straight into the camera with a straight face. I also found it very disturbing that that teenage church group had the nerve to say they use the "no snitching" rule but yet and still if someone were to be mugged or something I'm sure they wouldn't tell who did it but it would benefit their lives greatly...



the kids were sad, but cam was answering ignorant, to Anderson ignorant stupud questions

why would you say serial killer, instead of saying sumthin more personal like mom or dad. And then asking Cam if a record exec says "STOP SAYING 50 Cent is a snitch" was Anderson serious when he asked that question
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Reply #55 posted 04/22/07 8:15pm

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laurarichardson said:

TotalAlisa said:


only a FOOL.. would think that camron represents black people... ONLY A FOOL.. what about Barak obama, Martin Luther King, Condeliza Rice, other intelligent blacks that you see on TV... and even others in the community....

if an ADULT sees a rapper on tv.. and thinks that all blacks are like this then they ... don't have a clue.. and they don't have any kind of reasoning

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How old are you? You have got to be young if you think other races don't sterotype black folks based off the crap that is in the media.

Of course it is wrong but the masses do it and the only thing we can do as a people is to check ourselves. Cameron is saying that he is okay with criminal behavior.

Don't snitch because you are helping the cops. Nevermind that a fucking serial killer could be taking black folks in the community out.

It is ignorant as hell and he is putting it out there that a certain segment of the black communinty is okay with crime. Other cultrues don't care if this segment is rappers that see us all as the same.

That is reality without all the p.c. bullshit.

and adult WITH A BRAIN.. who can reason... will know that it is ONLY CAMRON who thinks that way... NOT every black person..

and if someone wants to think that he represents the black race... then i don't really care what they think... because they just show that they don't have any common sense
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Reply #56 posted 04/22/07 8:22pm

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Yeah lol

How can you take him serious when he's in pink lol
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Reply #57 posted 04/23/07 7:40am

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CinisterCee said:

CalhounSq said:

:::wonders WHY Cam'ron was on 60 Minutes in the first place::: neutral


same here, and WHY this tiny portion of the interview is the only thing people are posting?

That's a thread in itself.

The bigger and more dangerous point is what's behind his statement and the fact that this "Stop Snitchin'" mindset appears to be shared by so many young people.

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In most communities, a person who sees a murder and helps the police put the killer behind bars is called a witness. But in many inner-city neighborhoods in this country that person is called a "snitch."

"Stop snitchin'" is a catchy hip-hop slogan that embodies and encourages this attitude. You can find it on everything from rap music videos to clothing. "Stop snitchin'" once meant "don’t tell on others if you’re caught committing a crime."

But as CNN's Anderson Cooper reports for 60 Minutes, it has come to mean something much more dangerous: "don’t cooperate with the police – no matter who you are."

As a result, police say, witnesses are not coming forward. Murders are going unsolved.

Reluctance to talk to police has always been a problem in poor, predominantly African-American communities, but cops and criminologists say in recent years something has changed: fueled by hip-hop music, promoted by major corporations, what was once a backroom code of silence among criminals, is now being marketed like never before.



The 60 Minutes segment was summed up best by educator and anti-violence advocate Geoffrey Canada.

"You don't need someone destroying you when your own people are the worst messengers possibly," Canada says. "And this is what black people in America have not come to grips with. If we had a bunch a people in robes saying this stuff, there would be a movement all over America to shut this thing down. That it's young black millionaires, we are doing nothing."


For more on this story: http://www.cbsnews.com/st...4565.shtml


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Reply #58 posted 04/23/07 8:31am

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....and if someone wants to think that he represents the black race... then i don't really care what they think... because they just show that they don't have any common sense



Exactly. We don't need respect or acceptance from any other group. Let them think whatever they want, as long as they leave us the f--k alone.
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Reply #59 posted 04/23/07 8:39am

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The bigger and more dangerous point is what's behind his statement and the fact that this "Stop Snitchin'" mindset appears to be shared by so many young people.


That's why I'm done with Busta Rhymes. As far as I know, he still hasn't talked to authorities about who killed his bodyguard. Why not cooperate and give closure to the man's family? Is he afraid of retribution if he tells the truth?

F--k Imus, black-on-black crime is something to get angry about.
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