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PrintableFunkyBrotha said: 2 b honest i dont think michael is even interested in making an album... he's just not in the zone anymore.. he doesnt even want to perform. That is the tragedy, never mind private life matters, the worst thing is the fact that he is wasting his god given talent arsing about doing jack shit. But in the end that is his choice and we cant demand music from him.
This is a sad statement, and I hope i'm proved wrong, but my gut feeling is that it's true. He seems to avoid work at every opportunity these days. [Edited 4/17/07 14:45pm] | |
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Of those two i would say Madonna, i still dont believe Michael will get it out by then, when its in my hand then i will believe it. The madonna album will be the "american" commercial album she hasnt had, BUT if the whole timb and timb phase is dead by then, then this album could be a major commercial failure here. You also have to figure who else is out that time of year, MARIAH is already slated for Late October early November and i think she will be the steadiest/strongest seller at least in the USA. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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Mj will chart higher than madonna...
not because he's better, but he has a bigger following... least he use to... don't know now ... will be interesting... Madonna's material and following has been diminishing since vogue... but both artist are uniquely embarassing in their old age... I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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I'm sure that before the release of his new album the "kop" will do another stupidity like baby dangling or a strange marriage that will ruin the promotion of the record. | |
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First of all, who told you all that Michael's album was coming out at the same time as Madonna's?????
Since a question was asked, then here's my comment: As far as I'm concerned, Michael of the two has the biggest thing to prove, hence he's gonna do his damnest to produce a great album! Success means different things to different people.....most people here are talking about sales figures....lets just remember none of the 'hot' acts of today are doing numbers even remotely close to what both MJ and Madonna have done! and to think that these two will recapture those figures is unrealistic. My vote goes to MJ, as far as talent goes, he kicks Madonnas butt and I want to see him succeed and hopefully see all the naysayers choke on there words! [Edited 4/17/07 18:04pm] | |
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Prince!!!!! I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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SoulAlive said: My prediction is that only ONE of these artists will actually finish their CD in time for a November release date
 Yes...the one who's known for a fact to already be working on one.  As opposed to years of rumors that MJ is about to put out an album...but still nothing. BTW, what ever happened to the Katrina single?!  "I would say that Prince's top thirty percent is great. Of that thirty percent, I'll bet the public has heard twenty percent of it." - Susan Rogers, "Hunting for Prince's Vault", BBC, 2015 |
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In all honesty, it will be close but Madonna might edge out MJ but don't underestimate MJ fans. But one thing is true, there isn't enough room in the mental wards of the world for Madonna and MJ fans. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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CandaceS said: SoulAlive said: My prediction is that only ONE of these artists will actually finish their CD in time for a November release date
Yes...the one who's known for a fact to already be working on one. As opposed to years of rumors that MJ is about to put out an album...but still nothing. BTW, what ever happened to the Katrina single?! That shit was shelved. In all honesty, if it's a Michael Jackson record, and it has AT LEAST 5 good songs, it's going to sell. Hopefully his album is released this year(the buzz is for November or December...at the latest....February 2008) "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: CandaceS said: Yes...the one who's known for a fact to already be working on one. As opposed to years of rumors that MJ is about to put out an album...but still nothing. BTW, what ever happened to the Katrina single?! That shit was shelved. In all honesty, if it's a Michael Jackson record, and it has AT LEAST 5 good songs, it's going to sell. Hopefully his album is released this year(the buzz is for November or December...at the latest....February 2008) I know I'm not holding my breath. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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EmbattledWarrior said: Mj will chart higher than madonna...
not because he's better, but he has a bigger following... least he use to... don't know now ... will be interesting... Madonna's material and following has been diminishing since vogue... but both artist are uniquely embarassing in their old age...  I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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purplecam said: In all honesty, it will be close but Madonna might edge out MJ but don't underestimate MJ fans. But one thing is true, there isn't enough room in the mental wards of the world for Madonna and MJ fans.
Madge might sell more than MJ in America-but they both have a lot of fans overseas, so it could go either way. I like Madonna & i'll be buying her new album regardless, but I looooove Michael so I'm rooting more for him. At the end of the day though I just want some good music. If his new album tanks but the album is good, I'll be happy.[Edited 4/17/07 19:03pm] "And When The Groove Is Dead And Gone, You Know That Love Survives, So We Can Rock Forever" RIP MJ 
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Cinnamon234 said: purplecam said: In all honesty, it will be close but Madonna might edge out MJ but don't underestimate MJ fans. But one thing is true, there isn't enough room in the mental wards of the world for Madonna and MJ fans.
Madge might sell more than MJ in America-but they both have a lot of fans overseas, so it could go either way. I like Madonna & i'll be buying her new album regardless, but I looooove Michael so I'm rooting more for him. At the end of the day though I just want some good music. If his new album tanks but the album is good, I'll be happy.
[Edited 4/17/07 19:03pm] I'm going to wind up buying both their music, for completists sake, but if the CD is hot on both ends, then it's a major victory. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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Mike's album will be better. He's working with Teddy Riley, Rodney Jerkins and will.i.am. Madonna's working with Timbaland and Timberlake. Id'd take Michael's choice of producers over Madonna's.
It's would be so cool if Prince brought out a new album in November. MJ vs Prince vs Madonna. That's be so cool! | |
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namepeace said: dirtyman2005 said: as for domestic sales in usa, neither is going to do particularly well in the current climate of shit music. invincible sold approx 2 million in the usa, while madonna's last did roughly the same i think. I doubt any of them can go above 4. thats the max to be honest, and thats only due to added hype and expectations the new MJ album is bound to be crap especially when he is working with rodney jerkins, will i am and other useless beat makers. I happen to agree with you, which is why I questioned DD's prediction. selling 2 million these days is almost like selling 5-6 million, considering the degree of difficulty in moving albums these days. If Madonna only sells 2 million in the U.S.,but has a worldwide total of 10 million or so (very likely),I consider that a success.No one should be expecting her to sell like she did in the 80s,especially with downloading and all that.'Confessions' did 8 million worldwide and went to Number One in 40 countries.Those are great numbers. | |
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purplecam said: Prince!!!!!
Is he releasing a new album this year? | |
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FunkyBrotha said: Michael Jackson has always outsold Madonna, so if we are talkin sales then MJ will win, especially since this is a comeback record and the p.r. will all be about a new MJ with new music etc etc a la Mariah Carey. He will get the sympathy vote in Europe, and especially in the UK where he is still massive!
Remember Number Ones from 2004, that record sold 2million in the UK alone and is still in the charts. Also Invincible got to number one here 2 and that was pre martin bashir, michael has gained a lot of new fans in the UK since then. In America he will have to work his butt off 2 convince the public he has changed as a person and at least say that he wont make the mistakes again he did in the past. Focus on the music, focus on the art and improve his style. Madonna isnt really as popular in America as MJ even at his lowest point although she does have GAY DOLLAR POWER and that counts for a lot these days. Regardless,I think her career is in a healthy state compared to his.Last year,she went on her most successful tour yet,grossing over $200 million.And yes,the tour was a hit here in America too,so it would be foolish to suggest that she's no longer popular here in America.Both of them have extremely large and loyal audiences all over the globe so they will have no problem selling alot of records worldwide.I just think Madonna will have an easier time.Unlike MJ,she doesn't really have to prove anything.She also doesn't have all the "baggage" that MJ has. | |
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missfee said: both will be shit.
THAT would made Prince & Mariah look good!!!  | |
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SoulAlive said: 
Two of the biggest superstars of the 80s are set to release new albums in November.Both artists are working with some mainstream heavyweights (Madonna has recruited Timbaland and Pharrell for her album,while MJ is working with will.i.am and Rodney Jerkins on his album).Which artist is likely to come out on top? Which album are you most excited about? Will they really release their albums in the same month?? For the latest word on MJ's album,go here... http://en.wikipedia.org/w...2007_album For the latest word on Madonna's album,go here... http://en.wikipedia.org/w...dio_album.  Madonna will have an early advantage because the beats of Timbaland still sell records. But I know for a fact that Michael needs to bring his best with this new album because his & The Jackson family legecy are on the line. After all the legal problems he had to deal with, plus the major disappointment of baby sister Janet's last album, Michael needs to make a statement that he's still THE King Of Pop. [Edited 4/18/07 1:06am] | |
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There's a rumor that Mike's new CD will be titled 'Innocence',with songs such as:
I'm Dreamin (Of A New Day) If You Don't Get It What's It Gonna Be You Are So Beautiful Days of the Brokenhearted with Whitney Houston Trial Of The Century with 50 Cent | |
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TonyVanDam said: SoulAlive said:
Two of the biggest superstars of the 80s are set to release new albums in November.Both artists are working with some mainstream heavyweights (Madonna has recruited Timbaland and Pharrell for her album,while MJ is working with will.i.am and Rodney Jerkins on his album).Which artist is likely to come out on top? Which album are you most excited about? Will they really release their albums in the same month?? For the latest word on MJ's album,go here... http://en.wikipedia.org/w...2007_album For the latest word on Madonna's album,go here... http://en.wikipedia.org/w...dio_album. Madonna will have an early advantage because the beats of Timbaland still sell records. But I know for a fact that Michael needs to bring his best with this new album because his & The Jackson family legecy in on the line. After all the legal problems he had to deal with, plus the major disappointment of baby sister Janet's last album, Michael needs to make a statement that he's still THE King Of Pop. That's what I was telling another person on this thread Madonna doesn't have anything to prove.MJ,on the other hand,needs to make a statement with his album.He needs to prove that he's still able to make a good album,despite all his personal problems in recent years. | |
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SoulAlive said: There's a rumor that Mike's new CD will be titled 'Innocence',with songs such as:
I'm Dreamin (Of A New Day) If You Don't Get It What's It Gonna Be You Are So Beautiful Days of the Brokenhearted with Whitney Houston Trial Of The Century with 50 Cent That all wiki BS. I'm Dreamin' is a song that will appear on the album according to RS. What's It Gonna Be is the name of a new MJ song, but it was recorded a couple of years ago so may or may not make it on the album. You Are So Beautiful is the name of a song MJ wrote during the trial, which also may or may not appear on the album. But all the other titles are BS. The album title is BS to the max. The only semi-believable new album title I've heard is HIStory Book II. | |
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DarlingDiana said: SoulAlive said: There's a rumor that Mike's new CD will be titled 'Innocence',with songs such as:
I'm Dreamin (Of A New Day) If You Don't Get It What's It Gonna Be You Are So Beautiful Days of the Brokenhearted with Whitney Houston Trial Of The Century with 50 Cent That all wiki BS. I'm Dreamin' is a song that will appear on the album according to RS. What's It Gonna Be is the name of a new MJ song, but it was recorded a couple of years ago so may or may not make it on the album. You Are So Beautiful is the name of a song MJ wrote during the trial, which also may or may not appear on the album. But all the other titles are BS. The album title is BS to the max. The only semi-believable new album title I've heard is HIStory Book II. HIStory Book II? Does that mean it will also be another 2-CD set with a greatest hits album included? | |
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SoulAlive said: DarlingDiana said: That all wiki BS. I'm Dreamin' is a song that will appear on the album according to RS. What's It Gonna Be is the name of a new MJ song, but it was recorded a couple of years ago so may or may not make it on the album. You Are So Beautiful is the name of a song MJ wrote during the trial, which also may or may not appear on the album. But all the other titles are BS. The album title is BS to the max. The only semi-believable new album title I've heard is HIStory Book II. HIStory Book II? Does that mean it will also be another 2-CD set with a greatest hits album included? No. | |
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does anyone have that photo of MJ and Madonna together in 1984? I LOVE that pic but I can't find it anywhere. | |
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of course it'll be madonna. she's white. always a formula for thousands of more sales. you NEVER put mainstream America in a position to "vote with their dollars" about someone's morality or "relevance", blk people will lose every time. it's a paternalism they're unaware of. they'll NEVER see Mike as an artist again. | |
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CandaceS said: BTW, what ever happened to the Katrina single?!
Well hopefully it will be release on the new album. As a solo song. It's a very beautiful song and I hope it sees the light of day. | |
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datdude said: of course it'll be madonna. she's white. always a formula for thousands of more sales. you NEVER put mainstream America in a position to "vote with their dollars" about someone's morality or "relevance", blk people will lose every time. it's a paternalism they're unaware of. they'll NEVER see Mike as an artist again.
Please don't go there  'Thriller' is the biggest selling album of all time and it was recorded by a black man.If MJ has problems selling records or being accepted as an "artist",it's not because of his race.
Besides,these days MJ is just as "white" as Madonna (sorry,I couldn't resist) | |
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u missed the gist of my post. Thriller was WHEN white America still deemed Michael as normal. | |
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datdude said: u missed the gist of my post. Thriller was WHEN white America still deemed Michael as normal.
well,he was pretty normal back then,compared to now. | |
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