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PrintableRemember that one time when Michael dangled his child offa balcony?
I heard that Dennis Rodman did that to Madonna once, back in the day when they wuz "dating". Except it wasn't offa a balcony. And it wasn't Dennis' child that he was dangled. | |
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Illustrator said: Remember that one time when Michael dangled his child offa balcony?
I heard that Dennis Rodman did that to Madonna once, back in the day when they wuz "dating". Except it wasn't offa a balcony. And it wasn't Dennis' child that he was dangled. people act like he was dangling the child over the balcony to kill the child or something.michael held his child tight and it was like 2 seconds because the fans below,hundreds of them were chanting that they wanted to see the baby.but of course the media slows the footage down to make it seem as though michael held the child there for a minute and they don't even show the crowd below screaming that they wanna see the baby so it seems as though michael just randomly decide to dangle his child over a balcony.but i do agree that michael still shouldn't have done it. "we make our heroes in America only to destroy them" | |
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as an adult survior of child molestation my flags go up when i hear that a 50year old man not related to the child is throwing sleep over parties.
first off he's not 50. anyways i'm sorry for you unfortunately sad past but you can't just automatically judge someone.i do see how people can think things and come to quick conclusions but in the end it's all about the FACTS [Edited 4/27/07 21:16pm] "we make our heroes in America only to destroy them" | |
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cborgman said: DarlingDiana said: Just like you defned Madonna's ever-changing "style". Way to prove skyecute right. He/she said Madonna fans had double standards when it comes to MJ. And here you are defeding Madonna changing style but telling someone they are "silly" because they defend MJ's changing appearance. [Edited 4/24/07 5:17am] madonna's changing style doesn't involve having surgery to make her resemble skeletor. that has nothing to do whether the person is talented or makes good music. "we make our heroes in America only to destroy them" | |
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whatsgoingon said: 
Michael hasn't changed much at all. 
The denial levels of fans are amazing. That pic is of a 20 year old Michael, he was already an adult and look at the difference. Even between the ages of 20 and 29 he looked like a completely different person... [Edited 4/26/07 6:51am] OF COURSE he's changed but he's obviously gonna look different with him having a different skin clor alone and then on top of that having a different hair style and then a different nose so it's not fair to compare pics like that because everyone knows he's changed but he's still the same person "we make our heroes in America only to destroy them" | |
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Illustrator said: Remember that one time when Michael dangled his child offa balcony?
Everybody keeps bringing up the baby dangling incident. Yes, it was a stupid mistake. However, if people want to take michael jackson's kids away from him or say that he is bad parent because of that, then the same rule should apply to every parent who has ever let their kid ride a bike without a helmet on. Besides, michael Jackson's biggest punishment is that one day he is going to have to explain to his kid what the hell he was thinking when he did that. | |
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mimi07 said: whatsgoingon said:
Michael hasn't changed much at all.
The denial levels of fans are amazing. That pic is of a 20 year old Michael, he was already an adult and look at the difference. Even between the ages of 20 and 29 he looked like a completely different person... [Edited 4/26/07 6:51am] OF COURSE he's changed but he's obviously gonna look different with him having a different skin clor alone and then on top of that having a different hair style and then a different nose so it's not fair to compare pics like that because everyone knows he's changed but he's still the same person That's not the point, MJ fans are constantly in denial on how much this guy has changed physically. Why else would they continue to compare him with circa 1990 when he had already transformed into a white woman and say he hasn't changed much. I mean he looks completely different from Thriller and had already done surgery there. And btw he had more than just his nose done, he had his chin done. It's also obvious that he has done something to his eyes to get that permanent wide-eye look. | |
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thedoorkeeper said: whatsgoingon said: Let's face it what other mainstream artist would have thought of using a Jazz Producer to produce their first, adult solo album.?
MJ didn't go out on a limb & work with a jazz producer by pairing with Q. Q was already producing pop hits when he teamed up with MJ. Q was producing Brothers Johnson before he teamed up with MJ. In fact I bought Off The Wall when it was released because it was produced by Q. Working with Q was going with a producer that was hot at that time. It wasn't anything radical. But even his own brothers were surprise when he said that he was working with Quincy, initially. He wasn't an obvious choice for a mainstream artist, because although he did produce pop records, back then he was still more or less associated with Jazz artists. | |
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ehuffnsd said: as an adult survior of child molestation my flags go up when i hear that a 50year old man not related to the child is throwing sleep over parties. I don't blame you. And I have to ask why would a 50 or 46 or 42 or 40 or any grown @ss man want to have sleep overs with pre-teens and teens? Why? If most people weren't a fan of his artistry they'd be looking at him with suspicion too. I've noticed some very new posters that just happen to be MJ fans. This might start looking like the KOP message board soon.  [Edited 4/27/07 5:53am] Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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JackieBlue said: ehuffnsd said: as an adult survior of child molestation my flags go up when i hear that a 50year old man not related to the child is throwing sleep over parties. I don't blame you. And I have to ask why would a 50 or 46 or 42 or 40 or any grown @ss man want to have sleep overs with pre-teens and teens? Why? If most people weren't a fan of his artistry they'd be looking at him with suspicion too. I've noticed some very new posters that just happen to be MJ fans. This might start looking like the KOP message board soon.
[Edited 4/27/07 5:53am] You know what, I use to be a much harder core fan then I am now, but I never allowed myself to be deluded about how much he has changed his face and the way his behaviour with children have made him look dodgy. | |
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whatsgoingon said: JackieBlue said: I don't blame you. And I have to ask why would a 50 or 46 or 42 or 40 or any grown @ss man want to have sleep overs with pre-teens and teens? Why? If most people weren't a fan of his artistry they'd be looking at him with suspicion too. I've noticed some very new posters that just happen to be MJ fans. This might start looking like the KOP message board soon.
[Edited 4/27/07 5:53am] You know what, I use to be a much harder core fan then I am now, but I never allowed myself to be deluded about how much he has changed his face and the way his behaviour with children have made him look dodgy. Same here. I don’t think there was a time in my life when I wasn’t a fan. It’s weird looking at pics of him out and about and seeing the same fans who were following him in the 80s still following him today. I know one woman in her mid 30s who only works temp so she can follow him. She has basically put her life on hold. I think that’s a bit more than being a devoted fan. That’s something else. Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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JackieBlue said: I think that’s a bit more than being a devoted fan. That’s something else.
  
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whatsgoingon said: mimi07 said: OF COURSE he's changed but he's obviously gonna look different with him having a different skin clor alone and then on top of that having a different hair style and then a different nose so it's not fair to compare pics like that because everyone knows he's changed but he's still the same person That's not the point, MJ fans are constantly in denial on how much this guy has changed physically. Why else would they continue to compare him with circa 1990 when he had already transformed into a white woman and say he hasn't changed much. I mean he looks completely different from Thriller and had already done surgery there. And btw he had more than just his nose done, he had his chin done. It's also obvious that he has done something to his eyes to get that permanent wide-eye look. it is known that his chin was done i didn't think i needed to add that. he hasn't done anything to his eyes just look at this pic  . he doesn not look COMPLETELY different from the thriller era,and he's not a white woman,he's a black man so don't be so ignorant"we make our heroes in America only to destroy them" | |
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ehuffnsd said: dag said: I don´t know why the fact that it went to court is so important to you. Nowadays ppl sue for anything. Here are just two examples from the last month. http://www.eonline.com/ne...dfccc442e0 Jackson's Would-Be Baby Mama Still Rocking the Cradle by Natalie Finn Wed, 28 Mar 2007 04:51:18 PM PDT It turns out that the London woman looking to have a say in Michael Jackson's custody arrangement wouldn't mind if a little child support was thrown her way, as well. Nona Paris Lola Jackson kept on keepin' on Tuesday, filing papers in Los Angeles Superior Court in which she asks for child support payments and shared physical custody that would allow her and the self-proclaimed King of Pop to both spend several hours a day with his three children, together. She even submitted a tentative schedule demonstrating how easy it would be to make that happen. In the meantime, Jackson would retain full legal custody of 10-year-old Prince, 9-year-old Paris and 5-year-old Prince II, aka Blanket, the court documents state. Meanwhile, the court has already shot down two attempts on Nona Jackson's part to fiddle with the undisclosed agreement Jackson has with ex-wife Deborah Rowe, who is the birth mother on record of Paris and the elder Prince. L.A. Superior Court Judge Robert Schnider refused last month to hear her motion, stating that Nona Jackson had failed to properly notify her wannabe baby daddy and Rowe of her intentions and that, even if she had followed procedure, she had still "failed to submit any credible evidence she gave birth to the minor children." So while Jackson doesn't appear to be in the market for another mama for his children, with his rep Raymone Bain calling Nona Jackson's actions "ludicrous," perhaps he could still use a groundskeeper. In her latest filing, Nona Jackson also requested that the singer's Neverland Ranch and one of his Encino, California, homes be turned over to her. Make that Never-Neverland. Anyway, per Tuesday's motion, Nona Jackson also asked Schnider to forgive her for her past procedural errors, explaining, "I am not a qualified lawyer and have little or no capacity to serve the papers accurately, but from the previous indicated rulings I have tried to find the flaws and fix them." Similarly to her two previous court filings, she maintains that Rowe and Jackson never consummated their three-year marriage, which ended in 1999, and that she is the mother of all three children. "Debbie's hospital records will prove that my kids are not hers because of DNA," Nona Jackson states in court documents. "I gave birth through the means of water birth because I am technically a [sic] herbalist." Technically, this woman is in need of a wakeup call. Hearings on her motion have been set for May 2 and May 30. April 17th, 2007. / source: www.michaeljackson.hu Another Jackson Case Dismissed Yesterday a Los Angeles Judge dismissed the case brought by Helen Harris-Scott against Michael Jackson. The bizarre case, filed by Harris-Scott, alleged that she began sending Jackson cards and letters in 1986, declaring her "love and admiration" for the singer. The plaintiff claimed Jackson was "shy" and communicated with her through others and through his music. Harris-Scott claimed things turned ugly around 1987 when Jackson, who was "connected with criminals," flattened her tires and tampered with her brake system. She also said a GPS tracking device was secretly installed in her car, tracking her every move. She said her phone was also wiretapped. Harris-Scott demanded an immediate apology from Jackson, also she wanted $100 million. This case is another good example that in America you can sue anyone for anything. As well this is another victory for Jackson and his excellent legal team. Does this sound credible to you? The child-abuse case was just as ridiculous. And everybody who has followed it and read the transcripts knows that. The family´s depositions were ridiculous, they had recorded history of different legal freuds, they were changing accusations as they wished - first it was an abuse, than an attempt to abuse and after a month they suddenly remembered they were abducted. Plus, there was no evidence. It´s just embarrasing allegation! Period. Wanna know why the two stories that I posted don´t get that much news covarege? It´s not because they are ridiculous. The press doesn´t mind reporting on ridiculous stories, cause they know the public is stupid enough to buy it. It is because they connect MJ to women! That´s not as interesting as little boys. And I think you might realize by now how much we want him to be weird. [Edited 4/26/07 13:46pm] [Edited 4/26/07 13:47pm] as an adult survior of child molestation my flags go up when i hear that a 50year old man not related to the child is throwing sleep over parties. That is understandable. I am sure that flag of most women who have been raped also goes up whenever a man starts flirting with her. MJ´s love for kids is unusual. He has never tried to hide that. He´s open about it and the most important thing should be the court result and truly if you have followed it, you know there´s no doubt about it. So continue being careful, but I think that there has been done more enough investigation to prove that his love for children is really only unusual, but not sick. I am sure if he was a paedophile they sure would have found an evidence against which there would be no defence. Ppl should really get over the fact that it went to court. He´s been sued few times for not writing his own songs. Shall I start believing that he´s not a genius composer? No. And how many "Billie Jeans" were out there suing him? As you could see only the past couple of months two? Shall I believe that all of them were his wifes? No. OK, he´s been twice accused of child abuse. They have turned his house upside down twice, questioned hunderds of ppl finding not one single credible witness and no physical evidence. Does this mean he´s a child molester? No. [Edited 4/28/07 0:31am] "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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anyone have a link for the KOP board?
I only know about MJJForum and they're full of dumb-ass fans with names like "Angel of Mercy" who believe that MJ is the second coming. | |
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mimi07 said: whatsgoingon said: That's not the point, MJ fans are constantly in denial on how much this guy has changed physically. Why else would they continue to compare him with circa 1990 when he had already transformed into a white woman and say he hasn't changed much. I mean he looks completely different from Thriller and had already done surgery there. And btw he had more than just his nose done, he had his chin done. It's also obvious that he has done something to his eyes to get that permanent wide-eye look. it is known that his chin was done i didn't think i needed to add that. he hasn't done anything to his eyes just look at this pic . he doesn not look COMPLETELY different from the thriller era,and he's not a white woman,he's a black man so don't be so ignorantHe naturally has big eyes. But it is a well known fact that has a child the eyes are even bigger. Has he grew older his eyes didn't look so wide-open on a permanent basis, until he mess about with them, like he has done to every other feature on his face. He looks like a white woman and he has been looking more and more like a white from the Bad era(All you need to do is look at the cover of the Bad album). It's just that then he looked like a pretty, white woman but now he looks like a weird ugly-ass white woman. Stop living in denial.!! | |
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There is less than 10 years between these pictures. 
Naw Michael hasn't changed much at all.
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MattyJam said: anyone have a link for the KOP board?
I only know about MJJForum and they're full of dumb-ass fans with names like "Angel of Mercy" who believe that MJ is the second coming. Ugh, don't mention MJJForum,those muthafuckas are insane! I'm a fan but DAMN! I can admit that Michael has had MORE than 2 nose jobs and can also that he has a love of plastic surgery. I damn sure ain't gonna stand outside of his hotel room with banners and shit saying "Michael is innocence" Fuck that. I rather be at the crib on the org making fun of them "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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i say michael jackson
after all scandals he stil sells that visionary did pretty well when you concider they been released several times 8 tracks out of the top 10 in spain where michael tracks he had # 1 spots and top 10 20 spots over europe as well and i must say its impressive. and everywhere he goes he stil has alot of fans and that amazed me too i do believe an album wil be released this year and like will.i.am said either its gonna be big or noone is gonna care and it realy depends on the music of it realy is gonna be an off the wall for today i will be pleased. like whitney is gonna do a whitney album i checked this song R kelly wrote for her you could check it on youtube and all and it did sound like a whitney song not dated but all the good from like the 80s without sounding old. and if he does that too , a michael album he wil be alright and this would be the most dramatic celebrity comeback off all time. right on par with elvis getting out of the army onlything that could top this would be elvis come back out of death | |
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motownlover said: i say michael jackson
after all scandals he stil sells that visionary did pretty well when you concider they been released several times 8 tracks out of the top 10 in spain where michael tracks he had # 1 spots and top 10 20 spots over europe as well and i must say its impressive. and everywhere he goes he stil has alot of fans and that amazed me too i do believe an album wil be released this year and like will.i.am said either its gonna be big or noone is gonna care and it realy depends on the music of it realy is gonna be an off the wall for today i will be pleased. like whitney is gonna do a whitney album i checked this song R kelly wrote for her you could check it on youtube and all and it did sound like a whitney song not dated but all the good from like the 80s without sounding old. and if he does that too , a michael album he wil be alright and this would be the most dramatic celebrity comeback off all time. right on par with elvis getting out of the army onlything that could top this would be elvis come back out of death I remember they did a sales count in 2004 or 2005 and it pointed out that Michael's 1979-2003 catalog sold more than his peers in the first 5 years of the millineum. I think he'll be okay, he just needs to get his ass back on track. No delaying the damn thing because it's not perfect. If Invincible was perfect, give me an album that is flawed the hell up "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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JackieBlue said: ehuffnsd said: as an adult survior of child molestation my flags go up when i hear that a 50year old man not related to the child is throwing sleep over parties. I don't blame you. And I have to ask why would a 50 or 46 or 42 or 40 or any grown @ss man want to have sleep overs with pre-teens and teens? Why? If most people weren't a fan of his artistry they'd be looking at him with suspicion too. I've noticed some very new posters that just happen to be MJ fans. This might start looking like the KOP message board soon.
[Edited 4/27/07 5:53am] I come here and there's always a thread about MJ. I go to the KOP board and there's always a thread about Prince. Theres a big ass thread on MJNewsOnline dedicated to Prince. anybody who posts that they don't like Prince gets punked "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: JackieBlue said: I don't blame you. And I have to ask why would a 50 or 46 or 42 or 40 or any grown @ss man want to have sleep overs with pre-teens and teens? Why? If most people weren't a fan of his artistry they'd be looking at him with suspicion too. I've noticed some very new posters that just happen to be MJ fans. This might start looking like the KOP message board soon.
[Edited 4/27/07 5:53am] I come here and there's always a thread about MJ. I go to the KOP board and there's always a thread about Prince. Theres a big ass thread on MJNewsOnline dedicated to Prince. anybody who posts that they don't like Prince gets punked But aren't most of the Michael Jackson topics started by Michael Jackson fans? I've been to some of the Michael Jackson boards and what I see is most of the fans are fans of the Michael from the last 20 years. Therefore their discussions evolve around just 5 albums, the rest of the discussions tend to evolve around the way the media treats him and how everyone else has done him wrong,  or how wonderful he is as a human being-some do make it seem he is Jesus Christ reincarnated. | |
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whatsgoingon said: bboy87 said: I come here and there's always a thread about MJ. I go to the KOP board and there's always a thread about Prince. Theres a big ass thread on MJNewsOnline dedicated to Prince. anybody who posts that they don't like Prince gets punked But aren't most of the Michael Jackson topics started by Michael Jackson fans? I've been to some of the Michael Jackson boards and what I see is most of the fans are fans of the Michael from the last 20 years. Therefore their discussions evolve around just 5 albums, the rest of the discussions tend to evolve around the way the media treats him and how everyone else has done him wrong, or how wonderful he is as a human being-some do make it seem he is Jesus Christ reincarnated. I get what you're saying. Alot of fans don't care about his Motown albums or the Jackson 5/Jacksons albums! I'm 19 and have been a fan as long as I can remember but you go to those boards I mentioned and most of the fans are 14- 22 years old and aren't fans of his earlier work. My friend got so damn tired of the same old threads that she made her own board and it's pretty cool. Alot of people don't join because it's about his MUSIC. How many boards can you find with an appreciation thread dedicated to "Forever Michael"? "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: whatsgoingon said: But aren't most of the Michael Jackson topics started by Michael Jackson fans? I've been to some of the Michael Jackson boards and what I see is most of the fans are fans of the Michael from the last 20 years. Therefore their discussions evolve around just 5 albums, the rest of the discussions tend to evolve around the way the media treats him and how everyone else has done him wrong, or how wonderful he is as a human being-some do make it seem he is Jesus Christ reincarnated. I get what you're saying. Alot of fans don't care about his Motown albums or the Jackson 5/Jacksons albums! I'm 19 and have been a fan as long as I can remember but you go to those boards I mentioned and most of the fans are 14- 22 years old and aren't fans of his earlier work. My friend got so damn tired of the same old threads that she made her own board and it's pretty cool. Alot of people don't join because it's about his MUSIC. How many boards can you find with an appreciation thread dedicated to "Forever Michael"? That's why this board is good, even though a lot of times we do go down the same road about his face and child abuse allegations, but at the same time you can have a pretty decent discussion about "Everybody" from The Truimph album, or the merits of the "Going places" albums, instead of going on about "Dangerous", "History" or "Bad", which in my opinion is not his best work. | |
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whatsgoingon said: bboy87 said: I get what you're saying. Alot of fans don't care about his Motown albums or the Jackson 5/Jacksons albums! I'm 19 and have been a fan as long as I can remember but you go to those boards I mentioned and most of the fans are 14- 22 years old and aren't fans of his earlier work. My friend got so damn tired of the same old threads that she made her own board and it's pretty cool. Alot of people don't join because it's about his MUSIC. How many boards can you find with an appreciation thread dedicated to "Forever Michael"? That's why this board is good, even though a lot of times we do go down the same road about his face and child abuse allegations, but at the same time you can have a pretty decent discussion about "Everybody" from The Truimph album, or the merits of the "Going places" albums, instead of going on about "Dangerous", "History" or "Bad", which in my opinion is not his best work. co-sign. I get tired of the threads about his face and the allegations and the such, but it's pretty cool to see people who know that the man has 30 albums out there and alot of material "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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I think Madonna. Although Michael still has a large hardcore fan base I don't think he has engaged more/new interest over the years unlike Madonna who seems to be standing the test of time. | |
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U know Madonna is going to be on top because of her she's is more popular at the moment and hasnt had any real negative media at all in the past what... 15 years almost. Plus I think the producers she is working with are the right choice for her sound.
I BELIEVE in Michael Jackson also, but in the end I hope he doesnt pull another "let me try to be hip with Chris Brown" all over the album. I want to hear HIS VOICE. Invincible gave a very close glimpse of what I almost havent heard since Off The Wall with songs like "She's Out Of My Life" and "I Cant Help It" even "Lady In My Life". "Heaven Can Wait" "Butterflies" "Dont Walk Away" "Break Of Dawn" were some exceptional slow jams, and I cant wait to hear Mike at it again. I can FEEl his emotion. That's something Madonna cannot do at all...bring a damn tear to ya eye. I dont feel her slow jams with the exception of maybe her remake of "Love Dont Live Here..." "Take A Bow" "I'll Remember" hell maybe even "What It Feels Like 4 A Girl" Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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whatsgoingon said:
Naw Michael hasn't changed much at all.
[Edited 4/28/07 4:03am] [Edited 4/28/07 4:08am] [Edited 4/28/07 4:12am] he hardly even looks like that anymore, this pic is from like 4 years ago an peeps love posting it.why not post a more recent pic like this  [Edited 4/28/07 15:49pm] "we make our heroes in America only to destroy them" | |
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