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Thread started 04/16/07 11:32pm

ZombieKitten

Is there a New York sound?

Currently?

What bands would you consider to have a NY sound which has been described to me as either:

"The NY sound (I would imagine) is the "Indie" or low-fi home produced records that many NY bands have put out recently. Different from "Grunge" in the sense that the songs are well-crafted and more intricate, but similar in the sense that the overall sound is raw and more emotional."

and also:

"shit singing and played really fast" lol

Thanks! biggrin
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Reply #1 posted 04/17/07 3:11am

PANDURITO

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stab

Somebody help the young lady!!! mad
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Reply #2 posted 04/17/07 3:21am

ZombieKitten

nobody even has a clue? sad
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Reply #3 posted 04/17/07 3:22am

ZombieKitten

PANDURITO said:

stab

Somebody help the young lady!!! mad




hug
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Reply #4 posted 04/17/07 6:06am

Giovanni777

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I know U said "currently", but how about some history?

Where do U wanna start?

Jazz
Doo Wop
R&B
Hip-Hop
House

I can't tell U about a NY sound with the "Indie" Rock stuff, because I don't listen 2 it.

Peace.

G.
[Edited 4/17/07 6:07am]
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Reply #5 posted 04/17/07 6:11am

Anx

when i think of a new york "sound", i think of the CBGBs bands - talking heads, ramones, blondie, patti smith - and the no wave movement that came soon after, in the late '70s. i think all of that influences the current crop of indie/hipster NYC bands, most of which seem to cop a retro style resembling the CBGBs/no-wave sound. so i guess what i'm saying is, as far as rock is concerned, i don't think the "new york sound" has changed much since 1979.
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Reply #6 posted 04/17/07 6:14am

ZombieKitten

Giovanni777 said:

I know U said "currently", but how about some history?

Where do U wanna start?

Jazz
Doo Wop
R&B
Hip-Hop
House

I can't tell U about a NY sound with the "Indie" Rock stuff, because I don't listen 2 it.

Peace.

G.

[Edited 4/17/07 6:07am]


yeah sorry, I mean that biggrin
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Reply #7 posted 04/17/07 6:14am

ZombieKitten

Anx said:

when i think of a new york "sound", i think of the CBGBs bands - talking heads, ramones, blondie, patti smith - and the no wave movement that came soon after, in the late '70s. i think all of that influences the current crop of indie/hipster NYC bands, most of which seem to cop a retro style resembling the CBGBs/no-wave sound. so i guess what i'm saying is, as far as rock is concerned, i don't think the "new york sound" has changed much since 1979.


can you list them?
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Reply #8 posted 04/17/07 6:34am

anon

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ZombieKitten said:

Anx said:

when i think of a new york "sound", i think of the CBGBs bands - talking heads, ramones, blondie, patti smith - and the no wave movement that came soon after, in the late '70s. i think all of that influences the current crop of indie/hipster NYC bands, most of which seem to cop a retro style resembling the CBGBs/no-wave sound. so i guess what i'm saying is, as far as rock is concerned, i don't think the "new york sound" has changed much since 1979.


can you list them?
Here's a couple. Too bad this place no longer exits.
Why do you like playing around with my narrow scope of reality? - Stupify
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Reply #9 posted 04/17/07 6:40am

Giovanni777

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Anx said:

when i think of a new york "sound", i think of the CBGBs bands - talking heads, ramones, blondie, patti smith - and the no wave movement that came soon after, in the late '70s. i think all of that influences the current crop of indie/hipster NYC bands, most of which seem to cop a retro style resembling the CBGBs/no-wave sound. so i guess what i'm saying is, as far as rock is concerned, i don't think the "new york sound" has changed much since 1979.


Great point!

I should've included this era too.
"He's a musician's musician..."
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Reply #10 posted 04/17/07 7:21am

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Giovanni777 said:

I know U said "currently", but how about some history?

Where do U wanna start?

Jazz
Doo Wop
R&B
Hip-Hop
House

I can't tell U about a NY sound with the "Indie" Rock stuff, because I don't listen 2 it.

Peace.

G.
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Jazz - Many classic Jazz artists and composers were from other areas in the U.S., but many forms of Jazz evolved and were perfected in NYC, such as Swing and BeBop.

Doo Wop - Practically a New York creation. African-American and Italian-American groups like The Cadillacs, The Capris, Frankie Lymon and the Teenagers, were from The Bronx (of course!), Queens, Harlem, Brooklyn, etc.

R&B - Since so much Funk, Soul, and R&B came from all over, and a lot from Ohio alone, the only R&B sound I can say is clearly NY, is Teddy Riley's New Jack Swing. The honorary Funk Note goes to FatBack... an underrated all NYC Funk band.

Hip-Hop - Oh here we go. Invented, created, and perfected in NYC. Afrika Bambaata, Grandmaster Flash, Melle Mel, Rakim, Big Daddy Kane, DJ Premiere, Marley Marl, Prince Paul, Public Enemy, Tribe Called Quest, Jungle Brothers, De La Soul, etc, etc, etc.

House - Starting in NYC, with Larry Levan, Bobby Konders, Tommy Musto, Frankie Bones, etc. Then, Chicago changed it up, along with Detroit, and then back in NYC, U get guys like Erick Morillo, Roger Sanchez, Junior Vasquez, Danny Tenaglia, Masters at Work, etc.

There's a scratching of the surface 4 U.
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Reply #11 posted 04/17/07 8:22am

novabrkr

People being stabbed to death?

Bitchy fashion chicks whining about the quality of latte at the coffee shops?
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Reply #12 posted 04/17/07 8:25am

lilgish

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novabrkr said:

People being shot to death?
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Reply #13 posted 04/17/07 8:26am

Anx

novabrkr said:

People being stabbed to death?


that comment is SO pre-guiliani. rolleyes
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Reply #14 posted 04/17/07 9:25am

Giovanni777

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Giovanni777 said:

Giovanni777 said:

I know U said "currently", but how about some history?

Where do U wanna start?

Jazz
Doo Wop
R&B
Hip-Hop
House

I can't tell U about a NY sound with the "Indie" Rock stuff, because I don't listen 2 it.

Peace.

G.
[Edited 4/17/07 6:07am]




Jazz - Many classic Jazz artists and composers were from other areas in the U.S., but many forms of Jazz evolved and were perfected in NYC, such as Swing and BeBop.

Doo Wop - Practically a New York creation. African-American and Italian-American groups like The Cadillacs, The Capris, Frankie Lymon and the Teenagers, were from The Bronx (of course!), Queens, Harlem, Brooklyn, etc.

R&B - Since so much Funk, Soul, and R&B came from all over, and a lot from Ohio alone, the only R&B sound I can say is clearly NY, is Teddy Riley's New Jack Swing. The honorary Funk Note goes to FatBack... an underrated all NYC Funk band.

Hip-Hop - Oh here we go. Invented, created, and perfected in NYC. Afrika Bambaata, Grandmaster Flash, Melle Mel, Rakim, Big Daddy Kane, DJ Premiere, Marley Marl, Prince Paul, Public Enemy, Tribe Called Quest, Jungle Brothers, De La Soul, etc, etc, etc.

House - Starting in NYC, with Larry Levan, Bobby Konders, Tommy Musto, Frankie Bones, etc. Then, Chicago changed it up, along with Detroit, and then back in NYC, U get guys like Erick Morillo, Roger Sanchez, Junior Vasquez, Danny Tenaglia, Masters at Work, etc.

There's a scratching of the surface 4 U.
[Edited 4/17/07 7:23am]


With all due respect 2 Philly, Chi-Town, Cleveland, and Motor City, there's a reason that I'm NY-Centric, besides the thread subject. I tried to include these other musically significant cities, where appropriate, above... All respect, of course, 2 D.C. 4 the Go-Go.

Peace.
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Reply #15 posted 04/17/07 11:04am

HamsterHuey

Anx said:

when i think of a new york "sound", i think of talking heads, ramones, blondie, patti smith - and the no wave movement that came soon after, in the late '70s.


Lou Reed.
Also bands like The Strokes.
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Reply #16 posted 04/17/07 1:13pm

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HamsterHuey said:

Anx said:

when i think of a new york "sound", i think of talking heads, ramones, blondie, patti smith - and the no wave movement that came soon after, in the late '70s.


Lou Reed.
Also bands like The Strokes.


Yeah, The Strokes are probably the token "indie rock" (I hate that term) band that kinda brought back that sound to the mainstream.
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