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Printablelastdecember said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: I am laughing hysterically about people praising this chick as a real talent. She is a product otherwise she wouldn't have chopped her nose off her face and wouldn't be dressing like a slut
 She aint tryin to get by on her talent, she's trying to get by on her looks.So her oufits on a red carpet are SLUTTY, so Halle Berry and Jennifer Hudson who wear the same stuff are SLUTS too? Its amazing what we think is slutty, this is why we have things like the Don Imus incident because we stereotype someone because of clothing. Amerie is a 30 year old woman, i think we should be more concerned what a teen is wearing like Ciara. And that she is trying to get by on her looks, thats so funny, so that goes for EVERY artist that is half way decent looking, they are doing it on their looks and have no talent, lets just make sure thats across the board that statement. So the Beyonces and Janets and Prince's of the world are getting by on looks too? Folks even one that is pretty is not getting by on their looks, WAKE UP already with this double standard already its total Bull at this point.  OK, first off I am HORRIFIED at these teenage sluts like Ciara and Cassie and all the rest. NONE OF THEM are remotely talented and I am sickened at the state of music where you can't even buy albums from talented people without searching high and low because the shelves are stocked with nothing but crap acts that glitter nicely. You can paint a turd gold but you're still left with a piece of crap
If this album cover were any larger you'd see cunt hairs
Compared to the vibe she was putting off on her first album, this is certainly slutty: 
And yes Janet Jackson and Beyonce are full of shit as well peddling their goddamned boobs instead of good music. Your double standard bit does not apply to me 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: lastdecember said: So her oufits on a red carpet are SLUTTY, so Halle Berry and Jennifer Hudson who wear the same stuff are SLUTS too? Its amazing what we think is slutty, this is why we have things like the Don Imus incident because we stereotype someone because of clothing. Amerie is a 30 year old woman, i think we should be more concerned what a teen is wearing like Ciara. And that she is trying to get by on her looks, thats so funny, so that goes for EVERY artist that is half way decent looking, they are doing it on their looks and have no talent, lets just make sure thats across the board that statement. So the Beyonces and Janets and Prince's of the world are getting by on looks too? Folks even one that is pretty is not getting by on their looks, WAKE UP already with this double standard already its total Bull at this point. OK, first off I am HORRIFIED at these teenage sluts like Ciara and Cassie and all the rest. NONE OF THEM are remotely talented and I am sickened at the state of music where you can't even buy albums from talented people without searching high and low because the shelves are stocked with nothing but crap acts that glitter nicely. You can paint a turd gold but you're still left with a piece of crap
If this album cover were any larger you'd see cunt hairs
Compared to the vibe she was putting off on her first album, this is certainly slutty:
And yes Janet Jackson and Beyonce are full of shit as well peddling their goddamned boobs instead of good music. Your double standard bit does not apply to me Im talking double standard when a MALE artist does it, Example PRINCE?? Justin Timberlake,etc... Lets also not forget COUNTLESS Diana Ross album covers and Donna Summer covers also, once again count one count them all in. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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lastdecember said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: OK, first off I am HORRIFIED at these teenage sluts like Ciara and Cassie and all the rest. NONE OF THEM are remotely talented and I am sickened at the state of music where you can't even buy albums from talented people without searching high and low because the shelves are stocked with nothing but crap acts that glitter nicely. You can paint a turd gold but you're still left with a piece of crap
If this album cover were any larger you'd see cunt hairs
Compared to the vibe she was putting off on her first album, this is certainly slutty:
And yes Janet Jackson and Beyonce are full of shit as well peddling their goddamned boobs instead of good music. Your double standard bit does not apply to me Im talking double standard when a MALE artist does it, Example PRINCE?? Justin Timberlake,etc... Lets also not forget COUNTLESS Diana Ross album covers and Donna Summer covers also, once again count one count them all in. Oh the men aren't any better. I hate them too And you can take Prince off that list because while he may have engaged in shock tactics regarding his appearance and dress, hands down he would run circles over the entire industry with his wicked talent. He has a get out of jail free card![Edited 4/13/07 10:51am] 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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lastdecember said: PurpleCharm said: So why do you support mediocre female singers like Amerie, Maya, Cassie, JLo, etc that got deals because of their looks, but dis someone like Sanjaya who appears to be getting votes for his hair and looks? When did i say Cassie was a singer? I said she was a pretty girl and defended her from a stupid Vibe article, MYa got a deal because of her looks? really i didnt know this, well she was signed as a dancer back in 1997 but dancing is not talent, and i have seen her live many times and she can sing and perform, Amerie the same thing. But hey if we are going to say that all females get signed for their looks dont draw lines, Diana Ross,Aaliyah, etc..And how come we dont point out any male artists, Justin, Usher,Ne-Yo being signed for their looks and having Mediocre talent. MY dissing of Sanjaya was saying that everyone praises AI for being a TALENT SHOW, ITS NOT, and him getting by shows it, its nothing to do with your talent, and lets be honest if he was a female pulling that shit with hair and looks his ass would be at home watching AI. No one will get me to believe that Ne-Yo was signed for his looks. 
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lastdecember said: BlaqueKnight said: Boo hoo hoo. Poor, pretty people.  Well if one person is called a Slut than lets keep it real than everyone is, cant cherrypick who we like and who we dont. Beyoncé has already proven her abilities. She's 10 years in the pop game and there's no comparing Amerie or Teedra Moses to her. Mya, on the other hand, can sing - is close to 10 years in the R&B game as well and has dancing skills. She screwed up by screwing. When you try to whore your way through the business, you get crapped on. That's what happened to her. The industry talks. It doesn't respect her. Screw the right people; its a career in the pop game. Screw the wrong people; its King magazine layouts. Mya's Moodring CD was much better than Beyoncé's solo projects but without the right backing, you can NOT be successful on a major label. The problem is, after you have played the pop game, its harder to be taken seriously as a real artist. You can't do lapdances for Carson Daly AND get respect like Jill Scott. It doesn't work that way. [Edited 4/13/07 11:00am] | |
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JackieBlue said: sluts... hos...
Personally I don't give a shit what clothes someone wears or whether they actually hook for a living. When it comes to music I go off because how much of the music industry is based on looks and not talent. Most of it. That is the only reason I would ever have issue with someone's dress. She obviously felt the need to come out of her shell and why? did she all of a sudden have a change of heart? Probably not. She knew pulling a Michael Jackson and parading around naked would sell her more records. vomit vomit vomit! 
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:
OK, first off I am HORRIFIED at these teenage sluts like Ciara and Cassie and all the rest. [/quote]
Uh, Ciara is not slutty. Get the facts straight. She has not presented herself like that. She is not talented as a singer but she's not a slut, either. | |
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PurpleCharm said: lastdecember said: When did i say Cassie was a singer? I said she was a pretty girl and defended her from a stupid Vibe article, MYa got a deal because of her looks? really i didnt know this, well she was signed as a dancer back in 1997 but dancing is not talent, and i have seen her live many times and she can sing and perform, Amerie the same thing. But hey if we are going to say that all females get signed for their looks dont draw lines, Diana Ross,Aaliyah, etc..And how come we dont point out any male artists, Justin, Usher,Ne-Yo being signed for their looks and having Mediocre talent. MY dissing of Sanjaya was saying that everyone praises AI for being a TALENT SHOW, ITS NOT, and him getting by shows it, its nothing to do with your talent, and lets be honest if he was a female pulling that shit with hair and looks his ass would be at home watching AI. No one will get me to believe that Ne-Yo was signed for his looks.
Anywho, what I want to know is do you think it's ok for someone to get a record deal, male or female, based on their looks? NO but heres how it goes, this crap has been going on for ages. Artists signed for looks, jesus christ, Talented Singers like Pat Benatar,Laura Branigan (RIP) Heart,Donna Summer,Diana Ross were all signed based on their looks, Shit even ELVIS was all about Looks, so this crap about it being all what TODAY is about is bullshit, we the buying public dictate it. If you think CIARA has no talent then turn her off and dont buy her music and dont buy her when she is on a cover of a magazine. What bothers me is when we just lump everyone into this category based on what we see, and also it bothers me when we lump an AMerie and MYA into a category with Ne-Yo and Pretty Ricky and say they are the same, are you kidding me with that assumption or is the weed going to everyones head. Im not saying that AMERIE is not pretty or hasnt Benefited from being able to be put on the cover of a Magazine, but im saying its not all thats there, but for many it is, she and Mya and teedra Moses and countless others arent. Is Cassie a bad singer who got signed for her looks and by a Horny Producer YES, but so were alot of other Males and Females in that genre. So all in all should someone get signed for LOOKS no, but look at our society, Im just saying we often tend to hold people back for their looks, Mariah Carey, is she talented? Of course, Is she freaking Hot? Of course even Stevie Wonder said so, so really its all a case by case basis, i think if you can last in this game 10 years and have records released and movies then odds are you have talent, if you are a memory after a year or less and have 1-2 albums then odds are you were nothing but a TOKEN hire. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: JackieBlue said: sluts... hos...
Personally I don't give a shit what clothes someone wears or whether they actually hook for a living. When it comes to music I go off because how much of the music industry is based on looks and not talent. Most of it. That is the only reason I would ever have issue with someone's dress. She obviously felt the need to come out of her shell and why? did she all of a sudden have a change of heart? Probably not. She knew pulling a Michael Jackson and parading around naked would sell her more records. vomit vomit vomit!
I agree with a lot of what you've posted, I just wouldn't label them sluts. Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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BlaqueKnight said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:
OK, first off I am HORRIFIED at these teenage sluts like Ciara and Cassie and all the rest. Uh, Ciara is not slutty. Get the facts straight. She has not presented herself like that. She is not talented as a singer but she's not a slut, either.[/quote] OK, she aint pushing sunday school teacher here: 
She's definitely peddling her wares! In her defense though, I heard something last night that reminded me of Aaliyah and it turned out to be Ciara. Maybe she's better than those other fakes but still 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: lastdecember said: So her oufits on a red carpet are SLUTTY, so Halle Berry and Jennifer Hudson who wear the same stuff are SLUTS too? Its amazing what we think is slutty, this is why we have things like the Don Imus incident because we stereotype someone because of clothing. Amerie is a 30 year old woman, i think we should be more concerned what a teen is wearing like Ciara. And that she is trying to get by on her looks, thats so funny, so that goes for EVERY artist that is half way decent looking, they are doing it on their looks and have no talent, lets just make sure thats across the board that statement. So the Beyonces and Janets and Prince's of the world are getting by on looks too? Folks even one that is pretty is not getting by on their looks, WAKE UP already with this double standard already its total Bull at this point. OK, first off I am HORRIFIED at these teenage sluts like Ciara and Cassie and all the rest. NONE OF THEM are remotely talented and I am sickened at the state of music where you can't even buy albums from talented people without searching high and low because the shelves are stocked with nothing but crap acts that glitter nicely. You can paint a turd gold but you're still left with a piece of crap
If this album cover were any larger you'd see cunt hairs
Compared to the vibe she was putting off on her first album, this is certainly slutty:
And yes Janet Jackson and Beyonce are full of shit as well peddling their goddamned boobs instead of good music. Your double standard bit does not apply to me slutty....maybe.....but in a good way and LittleBlueCorvette, I was claiming that in 2001! That's my woman! "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: JackieBlue said: sluts... hos...
Personally I don't give a shit what clothes someone wears or whether they actually hook for a living. When it comes to music I go off because how much of the music industry is based on looks and not talent. Most of it. That is the only reason I would ever have issue with someone's dress. She obviously felt the need to come out of her shell and why? did she all of a sudden have a change of heart? Probably not. She knew pulling a Michael Jackson and parading around naked would sell her more records. vomit vomit vomit!
First of all AMERIE has never sold more than 500,000 records in the USA, so dont know about that whole SELLING business. And second she did nothing like a Michael Jackson, dont know where that came from, but she lloks the same as day one. HOWEVER i will say that she is lighter in person, u forget she is 80% Korean. So if she looked darker on her first album thats a SOny deal, kind of like what they do with Beyonce. I just dont understand what this is Based on? Does everyone wear the same clothes they wore in 2001? Is Beyonce rocking the same weave still, lets get real, is Justin still doing I Promise You. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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bboy87 said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: OK, first off I am HORRIFIED at these teenage sluts like Ciara and Cassie and all the rest. NONE OF THEM are remotely talented and I am sickened at the state of music where you can't even buy albums from talented people without searching high and low because the shelves are stocked with nothing but crap acts that glitter nicely. You can paint a turd gold but you're still left with a piece of crap
If this album cover were any larger you'd see cunt hairs
Compared to the vibe she was putting off on her first album, this is certainly slutty:
And yes Janet Jackson and Beyonce are full of shit as well peddling their goddamned boobs instead of good music. Your double standard bit does not apply to me slutty....maybe.....but in a good way and LittleBlueCorvette, I was claiming that in 2001! That's my woman! She wouldn't need to expose her fallopian tubes if she was so talented! 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: BlaqueKnight said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:
OK, first off I am HORRIFIED at these teenage sluts like Ciara and Cassie and all the rest. Uh, Ciara is not slutty. Get the facts straight. She has not presented herself like that. She is not talented as a singer but she's not a slut, either. OK, she aint pushing sunday school teacher here:
She's definitely peddling her wares! In her defense though, I heard something last night that reminded me of Aaliyah and it turned out to be Ciara. Maybe she's better than those other fakes but still [/quote]
And we dont think Aaliyah wouldnt have been doing this too? Give me a break, she totally SEXED up her image from her first album to her third, i mean come on already. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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lastdecember said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: OK, she aint pushing sunday school teacher here:
She's definitely peddling her wares! In her defense though, I heard something last night that reminded me of Aaliyah and it turned out to be Ciara. Maybe she's better than those other fakes but still And we dont think Aaliyah wouldnt have been doing this too? Give me a break, she totally SEXED up her image from her first album to her third, i mean come on already. Aaliyah was talented!  2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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BlaqueKnight said: lastdecember said: Well if one person is called a Slut than lets keep it real than everyone is, cant cherrypick who we like and who we dont. Beyoncé has already proven her abilities. She's 10 years in the pop game and there's no comparing Amerie or Teedra Moses to her. Mya, on the other hand, can sing - is close to 10 years in the R&B game as well and has dancing skills. She screwed up by screwing. When you try to whore your way through the business, you get crapped on. That's what happened to her. The industry talks. It doesn't respect her. Screw the right people; its a career in the pop game. Screw the wrong people; its King magazine layouts. Mya's Moodring CD was much better than Beyoncé's solo projects but without the right backing, you can NOT be successful on a major label. The problem is, after you have played the pop game, its harder to be taken seriously as a real artist. You can't do lapdances for Carson Daly AND get respect like Jill Scott. It doesn't work that way. [Edited 4/13/07 11:00am] Well MYA got screwed pretty well too, lets not forget that after MOODRING came out she went through some family issues and those around her took advantage of that basically stole what she was making and left, but of course we dont hear things like that. Thats why MYA runs her own game now, she has her own studio,her own band and she is her own manager. Now if she would get the fuck off MOTOWN the worst label around, sorry but the day has changed Motown is the worst. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: lastdecember said: And we dont think Aaliyah wouldnt have been doing this too? Give me a break, she totally SEXED up her image from her first album to her third, i mean come on already. Aaliyah was talented! Im not even getting into this because now its a game of favorites, Aaliyah was a talent, but lets be real she was part of the game that we are all complaining about, LOOKS, we dont think Aaliyah got ahead on her looks, jesus, let me pull out the 250 magazine covers she did even before her death. And we think she wouldnt be sexing it up now? "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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I’m curious what you guys think about Tamia? I just read an interview with Tamia (in which she comments heavily on the state of the music industry)—someone who most would consider has the looks and the voice and definitely sells her wares. I thought she was going to have more success with her lastest album which she put out herself but it seems like she was here and gone within a month. Is it her promotion, her music or lack of interest in favor of PCD, Fergie and Ciara or none of the above?
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OK, my issue isn't with how someone dresses or has a sexualized image, when they are talented. It's when they are not that this becomes an issue because they are using those things to get by in an industry that they should be getting by on their talent. If Jill Scott all of a sudden dropped a lot of wait and started exposing her vag on every magazing cover, I'd be disappointed because she doesn't need to do that to succeed. These chicks however need to expose as much skin as possible because they are horrible trainwrecks musically. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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Reminds me of when Toni Braxton started stripping over the years. Blame it on Daddy was a preacher. Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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JackieBlue said: I’m curious what you guys think about Tamia? I just read an interview with Tamia (in which she comments heavily on the state of the music industry)—someone who most would consider has the looks and the voice and definitely sells her wares. I thought she was going to have more success with her lastest album which she put out herself but it seems like she was here and gone within a month. Is it her promotion, her music or lack of interest in favor of PCD, Fergie and Ciara or none of the above?
Well this is another perfect example of someone who has LOOKS and talent there too, i think with Tamia as with others i have named (amerie Mya teedra etc) that its a label committment, everyone wants the next Beyonce, and no label wants to have to work someones record, they want istant success, i think Kelly Rowland would fall into this category too. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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JackieBlue said: Reminds me of when Toni Braxton started stripping over the years. Blame it on Daddy was a preacher.
Well TONi has pretty always had that sexy image i think they had her tone it down with the first album but then let it go, the same deal with Mariah, i mean after 1997 BAM, but they are all talented ladies. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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lastdecember said: PurpleCharm said: No one will get me to believe that Ne-Yo was signed for his looks.
Anywho, what I want to know is do you think it's ok for someone to get a record deal, male or female, based on their looks? NO but heres how it goes, this crap has been going on for ages. Artists signed for looks, jesus christ, Talented Singers like Pat Benatar,Laura Branigan (RIP) Heart,Donna Summer,Diana Ross were all signed based on their looks, Shit even ELVIS was all about Looks, so this crap about it being all what TODAY is about is bullshit, we the buying public dictate it. If you think CIARA has no talent then turn her off and dont buy her music and dont buy her when she is on a cover of a magazine. What bothers me is when we just lump everyone into this category based on what we see, and also it bothers me when we lump an AMerie and MYA into a category with Ne-Yo and Pretty Ricky and say they are the same, are you kidding me with that assumption or is the weed going to everyones head. Im not saying that AMERIE is not pretty or hasnt Benefited from being able to be put on the cover of a Magazine, but im saying its not all thats there, but for many it is, she and Mya and teedra Moses and countless others arent. Is Cassie a bad singer who got signed for her looks and by a Horny Producer YES, but so were alot of other Males and Females in that genre. So all in all should someone get signed for LOOKS no, but look at our society, Im just saying we often tend to hold people back for their looks, Mariah Carey, is she talented? Of course, Is she freaking Hot? Of course even Stevie Wonder said so, so really its all a case by case basis, i think if you can last in this game 10 years and have records released and movies then odds are you have talent, if you are a memory after a year or less and have 1-2 albums then odds are you were nothing but a TOKEN hire. Do we have to list every artist that got over on their looks in order to make our point valid? Do you feel this passionate about artist that don't have the "look" but also don't get a fair shake in the industry? | |
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lastdecember said: JackieBlue said: Reminds me of when Toni Braxton started stripping over the years. Blame it on Daddy was a preacher.
Well TONi has pretty always had that sexy image i think they had her tone it down with the first album but then let it go, the same deal with Mariah, i mean after 1997 BAM, but they are all talented ladies. Toni was always sexy yes, but there's a big difference between a man tailored shirt and suspenders and this... 
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JackieBlue said: I’m curious what you guys think about Tamia? I just read an interview with Tamia (in which she comments heavily on the state of the music industry)—someone who most would consider has the looks and the voice and definitely sells her wares. I thought she was going to have more success with her lastest album which she put out herself but it seems like she was here and gone within a month. Is it her promotion, her music or lack of interest in favor of PCD, Fergie and Ciara or none of the above?
Some people say that Tamia has the looks and talent, but doesn't have the "it" factor. | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: OK, my issue isn't with how someone dresses or has a sexualized image, when they are talented. It's when they are not that this becomes an issue because they are using those things to get by in an industry that they should be getting by on their talent. If Jill Scott all of a sudden dropped a lot of wait and started exposing her vag on every magazing cover, I'd be disappointed because she doesn't need to do that to succeed. These chicks however need to expose as much skin as possible because they are horrible trainwrecks musically.
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I like Tamia. She can sing and looks amazing. I dig Amerie. She's got an OK voice and looks sexy everytime I see her. I'm surprised she hasn't gotten into acting yet. | |
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SPYZFAN1 said: I dig Amerie. She's got an OK voice and looks sexy everytime I see her. I'm surprised she hasn't gotten into acting yet.
She played Katie Holmes' sidekick/roommate in "First Daughter". The height difference between the two was distracting, though - made "TomKat's" female half look even more gangly and awkward. Don't know if Amerie's done anything since. My author page: https://www.amazon.com/au...eretttruth | |
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