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Reply #30 posted 03/29/07 1:42pm

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Lets be serious though, we can run through all of RB and POP and find 100's of artist that are worse than Cassie at vocals and music, and most of them are chart toppers.


You really lack talent if you sing worse than Cassie.
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Reply #31 posted 03/29/07 1:58pm

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One name immediately comes to mind: Lumidee.

There are also these people who get into these pretend "industry relationships"; especially those neo-hippie types. They convince themselves that they are in a real relationship and they "date" their co-workers/producers/directors/hairdressers/whateva knowing that its not anything long term but needing companionship for the moment. Its similiar to those guys who sleep with video chicks and drag them around with them for a few weeks. They know its temporary from the beginning, they just don't want to have to select a new charmbracelet all of the time. What's the standard industry marriage contract these days? About 4 1/2 years or so? People in the biz are messy. People all over are, too but not nearly as much because when you add wealth and fame to the equation, everything is multiplied and often done to excess.
I'm wondering how much work Gwen and Pharrell actually got done in the studio. biggrin From the sound of the record, I'd say not much.
Cassie may be in a real relationship. I don't know or care but a lot of manipulation goes on, especially on the part of women so whereas she may be the exception, there are plenty of others that aren't.
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Reply #32 posted 03/29/07 2:51pm

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BlaqueKnight said:

One name immediately comes to mind: Lumidee.

There are also these people who get into these pretend "industry relationships"; especially those neo-hippie types. They convince themselves that they are in a real relationship and they "date" their co-workers/producers/directors/hairdressers/whateva knowing that its not anything long term but needing companionship for the moment. Its similiar to those guys who sleep with video chicks and drag them around with them for a few weeks. They know its temporary from the beginning, they just don't want to have to select a new charmbracelet all of the time. What's the standard industry marriage contract these days? About 4 1/2 years or so? People in the biz are messy. People all over are, too but not nearly as much because when you add wealth and fame to the equation, everything is multiplied and often done to excess.
I'm wondering how much work Gwen and Pharrell actually got done in the studio. biggrin From the sound of the record, I'd say not much.
Cassie may be in a real relationship. I don't know or care but a lot of manipulation goes on, especially on the part of women so whereas she may be the exception, there are plenty of others that aren't.


I agree with you, im just saying that alot of times these close working relations are sometimes mistaken for dating by media and then by the public. Lets look at Mariah Carey, i mean everytime she does a duet with someone or works with some guy everyone thinks they are dating, and the real truth is that Mariah has been dating this mark guy that has worked with her since the mid 90's but since he doesnt pose for pictures no one writes about it. About Gwen and Pharrel, well the way things are done today i can almost bet that they werent even in the studio together for this record, im sure tracks were mailed she mailed the vocals, album made, thats how its done now, 90% of the time artists dont even meet. And of course we cant forget the infamous Jessica Alba-Billy Woodruff dating issue? Everyone thought they were since they showed up at parties hand in hand while promoting "Honey" but of course Billy would not be interested in Jessica Alba, maybe Jeff Alba
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Reply #33 posted 03/29/07 2:54pm

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lastdecember said:

BlaqueKnight said:

One name immediately comes to mind: Lumidee.

There are also these people who get into these pretend "industry relationships"; especially those neo-hippie types. They convince themselves that they are in a real relationship and they "date" their co-workers/producers/directors/hairdressers/whateva knowing that its not anything long term but needing companionship for the moment. Its similiar to those guys who sleep with video chicks and drag them around with them for a few weeks. They know its temporary from the beginning, they just don't want to have to select a new charmbracelet all of the time. What's the standard industry marriage contract these days? About 4 1/2 years or so? People in the biz are messy. People all over are, too but not nearly as much because when you add wealth and fame to the equation, everything is multiplied and often done to excess.
I'm wondering how much work Gwen and Pharrell actually got done in the studio. biggrin From the sound of the record, I'd say not much.
Cassie may be in a real relationship. I don't know or care but a lot of manipulation goes on, especially on the part of women so whereas she may be the exception, there are plenty of others that aren't.


I agree with you, im just saying that alot of times these close working relations are sometimes mistaken for dating by media and then by the public. Lets look at Mariah Carey, i mean everytime she does a duet with someone or works with some guy everyone thinks they are dating, and the real truth is that Mariah has been dating this mark guy that has worked with her since the mid 90's but since he doesnt pose for pictures no one writes about it. About Gwen and Pharrel, well the way things are done today i can almost bet that they werent even in the studio together for this record, im sure tracks were mailed she mailed the vocals, album made, thats how its done now, 90% of the time artists dont even meet.


Barbra and Celine recorded their vocal in diferent locations...Tell him!

*hides in shame*
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Reply #34 posted 03/29/07 8:35pm

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lol

well ijust came across this last nigt reading about Joss Stone.....

In an interview with Rowdy TV, which is owned by his Rowdy Records label, producer Dallas Austin accused Joss Stone of having sexual relationships with producers in exchange for songs. This included the rapper Novel and singer Raphael Saadiq.

Austin later apologized for the remarks, stating; "My statement about Christina Aguilera and Joss Stone was a reaction to an incident I care not to discuss in any forum, and while I may have felt justified, I do owe an apology to Christina, Joss and their families."

"The comments I made were purely an act of retaliation, not of malice or cruel intent. ...I sincerely apologize as this is not my character nor should I have let anyone's actions push me to this limit."


LINK

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Dude, how could retaliation be anything but an act of malice and cruel intent? Wack apology. disbelief
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Reply #35 posted 03/29/07 10:04pm

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NuPwr319 said:

CHIC0 said:

lol

well ijust came across this last nigt reading about Joss Stone.....

In an interview with Rowdy TV, which is owned by his Rowdy Records label, producer Dallas Austin accused Joss Stone of having sexual relationships with producers in exchange for songs. This included the rapper Novel and singer Raphael Saadiq.

Austin later apologized for the remarks, stating; "My statement about Christina Aguilera and Joss Stone was a reaction to an incident I care not to discuss in any forum, and while I may have felt justified, I do owe an apology to Christina, Joss and their families."

"The comments I made were purely an act of retaliation, not of malice or cruel intent. ...I sincerely apologize as this is not my character nor should I have let anyone's actions push me to this limit."


LINK

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Dude, how could retaliation be anything but an act of malice and cruel intent? Wack apology. disbelief


Well, retaliation be a form of self-defense
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Reply #36 posted 03/30/07 2:07am

SoulAlive

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Cassie's ass is lame. She SHOULD be f*cking for tracks. That is the only reasonable excuse for her to be getting any tracks at all. From what I've heard of her (cough) "work" (cough), she doesn't even deserve to be signed. She's all looks. She should be a backup dancer for Ne-Yo or somebody, not out in front.


I agree.Cassie is whack!! No talent whatsoever.The only thing she has going for her is her looks and from the picture posted above,she doesn't even look that great,imo.Her music is horrible.Remember that embarassing BET performance where you could barely hear her vocals? LOL.I predict she'll have a few more minor hits then fade away.As an artist,she has absolutely nothing to offer.

Go ahead,Cassie,keep fuckin' for tracks.She'll have to do something to stay signed to a label lol
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Reply #37 posted 03/30/07 2:09am

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lastdecember said:



Lets be serious though, we can run through all of RB and POP and find 100's of artist that are worse than Cassie at vocals and music, and most of them are chart toppers.


You really lack talent if you sing worse than Cassie.


lol

To be honest,I can't really name too many other artists who are worse than Cassie (vocally and musically).
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Reply #38 posted 03/30/07 7:13am

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BlaqueKnight said:
One name immediately comes to mind: Lumidee.

There are also these people who get into these pretend "industry relationships"; especially those neo-hippie types. They convince themselves that they are in a real relationship and they "date" their co-workers/producers/directors/hairdressers/whateva knowing that its not anything long term but needing companionship for the moment. Its similiar to those guys who sleep with video chicks and drag them around with them for a few weeks. They know its temporary from the beginning, they just don't want to have to select a new charmbracelet all of the time. What's the standard industry marriage contract these days? About 4 1/2 years or so? People in the biz are messy. People all over are, too but not nearly as much because when you add wealth and fame to the equation, everything is multiplied and often done to excess.
I'm wondering how much work Gwen and Pharrell actually got done in the studio. biggrin From the sound of the record, I'd say not much.
Cassie may be in a real relationship. I don't know or care but a lot of manipulation goes on, especially on the part of women so whereas she may be the exception, there are plenty of others that aren't.


Just an observation by me; I know that it's fascinating that certain female recording acts who happen to be very attractive and/but have marginal to excellent degrees of talent may be fucking and sucking their producers, managers, etc., but other than the money and fame factor, how is this any different than other workplaces? This goes on everyday in the USA and probably the rest of the world, but we don't hear about any of these relationships, flings or trysts unless it involves someone higher up at a major corporation or government offical. I'm sure that the foreman at the sanitation district or the top medical device sales rep is probably having a fling with the really cute babe in human resources at some company somewhere, but while it may be the talk of the office, it doesn't even register with the general public unless something ugly happens (e.g., sexual harassment suit, stalking, drunken episode involving the police).

Like lastdecember said, it's one thing for someone like a producer like Dallas Austin or Diddy to use his power to seduce young women or some social climbing wannabe diva to sleep her way to the top, but it's something else to naturally develop a relationship by being in such close proximity to someone you work with on a daily basis. That's true in the office (I know by experience, because I met one of my girlfriends in the office and had a really good friendship with another female which still lasts to this day, yet people around the office thought we were having sex all over the place), and I know that it's especially true in the entertainment industry. Probably even more so, because the participants by nature are very creative and need to share and develop ideas to make movies, TV shows, albums, etc. There's nothing inherently romantic about running a tool and die stamping press or drafting a purchase order for shipments of craft glue to retail hobby stores, but it's something else to write love songs that Mariah Carey or Christina Aguilera is going to sing, or acting in a love scene with Scarlett Johansson or Jessica Alba where you know that your character and her character are supposed to hook up at the end of the movie. It's probably no wonder that it's extremely difficult to sustain a committed relationship in Hollywood because you have all of these opportunities for relationships and flings to develop just by the work these people are doing.

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Reply #39 posted 03/30/07 7:33am

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WHO?? neutral


That was my exact reaction!

I have no idea who this person is. Thankfully.
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Reply #40 posted 03/30/07 7:35am

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I can't imagine there being 100's of artist worse than Cassie...maybe just as bad, but not worse.
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Reply #41 posted 03/30/07 8:29am

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lastdecember said:

Moonbeam said:

According to Vibe Confidential, anyway...

Is Cassie Pregnant?

Cassie won't be winning any awards for her singing talent anytime soon, but she may be shopping for baby bottles and booties instead. Rumor has it that Miss Ventura has been laying low because she is rated PG. And the father of this alleged baby is none other than her producer Ryan Leslie. (Hmmm, what would Dallas Austin say about all this?)


Who woulda thought?


Well i met Cassie Friday nite at BUTTER, she was out all this past weekend. The Ryan Leslie thing, lets be real, if they have a relationship, it was all his doing, she already had a record finished and had tons of myspace fans (over a million) and could have sold that shit and made more money. Ryan and Diddy found Cassie and he instigated all of it, so lets be real and stop pushing blame on the females, when its mostly these producers that cant keep it in their pants and use the "fame" as a way to get in there! As for the Diddy thing with Aubrey of Danity Kane, thats been a rumour since day one of that Making the Band, just the fact that he has a bunch of kids with different women how is she the one "fucking fo something" lets cut the double standard already, its called using your fame to get women, stop pretending like these dudes are victims, total bullshit. This is the same thing Prince did in the 80's and 90's slept with almost all the women he worked with. And lets not forget Claudette Ortiz of RB group City High who got knocked up by, rumour has it Wyclef who produced the group.
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Good post L.D. You know, The thing I can't understand about this whole Sex For Tracks thing is that, Isn't the money enough? Big time producers like Scott Storch, Timbaland and Dallas Austin make enough bread, They can go out and get women who look just as good or better then a Christina Aguilera or Joss Stone. These guys get points off album sales and a producers fee. If Christina or Joss gave it up just to get a certain track, They're both very foolish. Cassie needs voice lessons not tracks.
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Reply #42 posted 03/30/07 8:39am

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Empress said:

CalhounSq said:

WHO?? neutral


That was my exact reaction!

I have no idea who this person is. Thankfully.


This song was a huge hit in the U.S. last year: http://www.youtube.com/wa...ed&search=
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Reply #43 posted 03/30/07 9:23am

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sextonseven said:

Empress said:



That was my exact reaction!

I have no idea who this person is. Thankfully.


This song was a huge hit in the U.S. last year: http://www.youtube.com/wa...ed&search=


Well, thankfully I still have no idea who she is, huge hit or not.
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Reply #44 posted 03/30/07 9:28am

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Empress said:

sextonseven said:



This song was a huge hit in the U.S. last year: http://www.youtube.com/wa...ed&search=


Well, thankfully I still have no idea who she is, huge hit or not.


Now you do! biggrin

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Reply #45 posted 03/31/07 8:39am

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728huey said:


Like lastdecember said, it's one thing for someone like a producer like Dallas Austin or Diddy to use his power to seduce young women or some social climbing wannabe diva to sleep her way to the top, but it's something else to naturally develop a relationship by being in such close proximity to someone you work with on a daily basis.



As I said, I agree.
I disagree that its the same as any other workplace job for the reasons I stated. Cameras, huge amounts of money, national attention, paparazzi, etc. make it different. People act differently when everyone is watching. The Punisher put it all off on the guy but in reality the pendulum swings both ways.
Greed is a hell of a motivator. In Cassie's case, that's probably not it but she is closer to the exception than the rule. Her's is probably more of a co-worker situation. The public immediately likes to romanticise celeb relationships, though and many times its misplaced.
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Reply #46 posted 03/31/07 9:20am

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BlaqueKnight said:

728huey said:


Like lastdecember said, it's one thing for someone like a producer like Dallas Austin or Diddy to use his power to seduce young women or some social climbing wannabe diva to sleep her way to the top, but it's something else to naturally develop a relationship by being in such close proximity to someone you work with on a daily basis.



As I said, I agree.
I disagree that its the same as any other workplace job for the reasons I stated. Cameras, huge amounts of money, national attention, paparazzi, etc. make it different. People act differently when everyone is watching. The Punisher put it all off on the guy but in reality the pendulum swings both ways.
Greed is a hell of a motivator. In Cassie's case, that's probably not it but she is closer to the exception than the rule. Her's is probably more of a co-worker situation. The public immediately likes to romanticise celeb relationships, though and many times its misplaced.



Another good example would be Kobe Bryant. Now he's got one of the hottest women in the world and yet he uses his fame and gets with another woman and it backfires on him, then he makes it look like he's a victim, cries on tv, and the only reason he keeps his woman is because he buys her a million dollar ring and im sure alot more, so where would this fall? Is she wrong because the only reason she stayed with him is his money, or is he wrong because he knew his money would let him keep a good thing.

My feeling is everyone should know the business by now, and if you put yourself in that situation usually you are going to get burned. The Dallas thing bothers me because he made it seem like he gave "tracks" and they gave "Sex" and that was it, but he left out how he got paid, and the others got paid. So in the long run its an ego thing, you feel like you got played and now shes with someone else, that kind of jealousy goes on in all walks of life, but deal with it, shit happens, take one for the team, move on and dont put yourslef in that situation where your ego is going to get jacked up.

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Reply #47 posted 03/31/07 10:28am

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lastdecember said:

BlaqueKnight said:




As I said, I agree.
I disagree that its the same as any other workplace job for the reasons I stated. Cameras, huge amounts of money, national attention, paparazzi, etc. make it different. People act differently when everyone is watching. The Punisher put it all off on the guy but in reality the pendulum swings both ways.
Greed is a hell of a motivator. In Cassie's case, that's probably not it but she is closer to the exception than the rule. Her's is probably more of a co-worker situation. The public immediately likes to romanticise celeb relationships, though and many times its misplaced.



Another good example would be Kobe Bryant. Now he's got one of the hottest women in the world and yet he uses his fame and gets with another woman and it backfires on him, then he makes it look like he's a victim, cries on tv, and the only reason he keeps his woman is because he buys her a million dollar ring and im sure alot more, so where would this fall? Is she wrong because the only reason she stayed with him is his money, or is he wrong because he knew his money would let him keep a good thing.

My feeling is everyone should know the business by now, and if you put yourself in that situation usually you are going to get burned. The Dallas thing bothers me because he made it seem like he gave "tracks" and they gave "Sex" and that was it, but he left out how he got paid, and the others got paid. So in the long run its an ego thing, you feel like you got played and now shes with someone else, that kind of jealousy goes on in all walks of life, but deal with it, shit happens, take one for the team, move on and dont put yourslef in that situation where your ego is going to get jacked up.



Kobe is one person. You're being one-sided.
You must not have listened to that Dallas interview very closely. Dallas said that Ciara comes in the studio and takes care of business. His point was that some women come in with their panties off and that's where they START. They walk in looking to "seal the deal" from jump street. People know how people get paid. Folks aren't stupid. He doesn't need to explain how producers get royalties because its common knowledge. What's not common knowledge is that if a producer has a hot track, he may sit on it to sell to the right buyer. Singers in the biz know this and some manipulate situations (i.e. "fuck for tracks") to ensure the best outcome. You're playing semantics. This chick fucked four of his friends and told them not to tell him. She's a slut. End of story. Deal with it.
Cassie - who knows? She's the one writing songs about how good her head skillz are so she could have given Puff a "sample" just to get put on. To "seal the deal" so to speak. Who knows? I don't and don't care but I'm glad Dallas busted these game-playing industry hoes out. I like Christina's voice and that's not going to change. Still, skanks can be exposed, too.
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Reply #48 posted 03/31/07 4:22pm

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lastdecember said:




Another good example would be Kobe Bryant. Now he's got one of the hottest women in the world and yet he uses his fame and gets with another woman and it backfires on him, then he makes it look like he's a victim, cries on tv, and the only reason he keeps his woman is because he buys her a million dollar ring and im sure alot more, so where would this fall? Is she wrong because the only reason she stayed with him is his money, or is he wrong because he knew his money would let him keep a good thing.

My feeling is everyone should know the business by now, and if you put yourself in that situation usually you are going to get burned. The Dallas thing bothers me because he made it seem like he gave "tracks" and they gave "Sex" and that was it, but he left out how he got paid, and the others got paid. So in the long run its an ego thing, you feel like you got played and now shes with someone else, that kind of jealousy goes on in all walks of life, but deal with it, shit happens, take one for the team, move on and dont put yourslef in that situation where your ego is going to get jacked up.



Kobe is one person. You're being one-sided.
You must not have listened to that Dallas interview very closely. Dallas said that Ciara comes in the studio and takes care of business. His point was that some women come in with their panties off and that's where they START. They walk in looking to "seal the deal" from jump street. People know how people get paid. Folks aren't stupid. He doesn't need to explain how producers get royalties because its common knowledge. What's not common knowledge is that if a producer has a hot track, he may sit on it to sell to the right buyer. Singers in the biz know this and some manipulate situations (i.e. "fuck for tracks") to ensure the best outcome. You're playing semantics. This chick fucked four of his friends and told them not to tell him. She's a slut. End of story. Deal with it.
Cassie - who knows? She's the one writing songs about how good her head skillz are so she could have given Puff a "sample" just to get put on. To "seal the deal" so to speak. Who knows? I don't and don't care but I'm glad Dallas busted these game-playing industry hoes out. I like Christina's voice and that's not going to change. Still, skanks can be exposed, too.


I understan that i just think Dallas only screwed himself in the long run, mainly because he's got a closet full of issues, from Drugs to finances and people he worked with not getting paid. I actually dont really care what Xtina did, because at the end of the day if you wanna be put in that situation then you give in to her demands, if not, then just dont work with her, and if the producer is doing it just because shes got money then thats just another form of prostitution. But i do know for a fact that alot Producers will use their tracks and fame to get women on board, ive heard about it all first hand and i see it whenever i go to an industry party, but it does go both ways. Another example would be Rich Harrison, now this guy did some shady stuff to Amerie, and she has been nice and not "dished the dirt" but there is some serious under the table action going on with Mr. Harrison and Sony and tracks they he did with Amerie that she did not get paid for, despite her being co-producer and we all know who ended up with those tracks at Sony.

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Reply #49 posted 03/31/07 4:36pm

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Well technically didn't all of Prince's muses fuck 4 tracks as well?
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Reply #50 posted 03/31/07 4:43pm

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Mozorro said:

Well technically didn't all of Prince's muses fuck 4 tracks as well?


Most of them did.

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Reply #51 posted 03/31/07 5:11pm

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lastdecember said:

BlaqueKnight said:




Kobe is one person. You're being one-sided.
You must not have listened to that Dallas interview very closely. Dallas said that Ciara comes in the studio and takes care of business. His point was that some women come in with their panties off and that's where they START. They walk in looking to "seal the deal" from jump street. People know how people get paid. Folks aren't stupid. He doesn't need to explain how producers get royalties because its common knowledge. What's not common knowledge is that if a producer has a hot track, he may sit on it to sell to the right buyer. Singers in the biz know this and some manipulate situations (i.e. "fuck for tracks") to ensure the best outcome. You're playing semantics. This chick fucked four of his friends and told them not to tell him. She's a slut. End of story. Deal with it.
Cassie - who knows? She's the one writing songs about how good her head skillz are so she could have given Puff a "sample" just to get put on. To "seal the deal" so to speak. Who knows? I don't and don't care but I'm glad Dallas busted these game-playing industry hoes out. I like Christina's voice and that's not going to change. Still, skanks can be exposed, too.


I understan that i just think Dallas only screwed himself in the long run, mainly because he's got a closet full of issues, from Drugs to finances and people he worked with not getting paid. I actually dont really care what Xtina did, because at the end of the day if you wanna be put in that situation then you give in to her demands, if not, then just dont work with her, and if the producer is doing it just because shes got money then thats just another form of prostitution. But i do know for a fact that alot Producers will use their tracks and fame to get women on board, ive heard about it all first hand and i see it whenever i go to an industry party, but it does go both ways. Another example would be Rich Harrison, now this guy did some shady stuff to Amerie, and she has been nice and not "dished the dirt" but there is some serious under the table action going on with Mr. Harrison and Sony and tracks they he did with Amerie that she did not get paid for, despite her being co-producer and we all know who ended up with those tracks at Sony.



You know there are just as many if not more examples of women manipulating men in this same manner so what's with the examples? I could sit here and spill examples to make my point from here to eternity. Madonna is a living example. Look at how many men she slept with to advance. Lots of shady deals go down. You seem to always find a way to blame the guy. In Christina's case - no dice. She's a SLUT, and a damn good vocalist.
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Reply #52 posted 03/31/07 5:26pm

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BlaqueKnight said:

Cassie's ass is lame. She SHOULD be f*cking for tracks. That is the only reasonable excuse for her to be getting any tracks at all.

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Reply #53 posted 03/31/07 7:49pm

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lastdecember said:



I understan that i just think Dallas only screwed himself in the long run, mainly because he's got a closet full of issues, from Drugs to finances and people he worked with not getting paid. I actually dont really care what Xtina did, because at the end of the day if you wanna be put in that situation then you give in to her demands, if not, then just dont work with her, and if the producer is doing it just because shes got money then thats just another form of prostitution. But i do know for a fact that alot Producers will use their tracks and fame to get women on board, ive heard about it all first hand and i see it whenever i go to an industry party, but it does go both ways. Another example would be Rich Harrison, now this guy did some shady stuff to Amerie, and she has been nice and not "dished the dirt" but there is some serious under the table action going on with Mr. Harrison and Sony and tracks they he did with Amerie that she did not get paid for, despite her being co-producer and we all know who ended up with those tracks at Sony.



You know there are just as many if not more examples of women manipulating men in this same manner so what's with the examples? I could sit here and spill examples to make my point from here to eternity. Madonna is a living example. Look at how many men she slept with to advance. Lots of shady deals go down. You seem to always find a way to blame the guy. In Christina's case - no dice. She's a SLUT, and a damn good vocalist.


Im just defending women more because you have to admit the scale is tilted in mens favor. I mean its basic 101 of history especially in the industry, if Mariah Carey wears a short skirt she is a slut, if Justin takes his shirt off hes Sexy. Its that kind of stuff that i think is the more frustrating thing and im not even a woman. We would be so quick to believe some woman sleeping around but be all sentimental when R kelly sleeps with kids, we just chalk that up to, well the woman is a slut and she said she was old enough so its not his fault, whatever happend to being responsible, I mean is he an adult? Little things like that all add up and tip the scale. So are there shady women of course, but there are some shady males out there too. Its been that way through history, did Madonna sleep around in the early days, sure, did Prince screw every woman he worked with and when they wouldnt give it up he tossed them aside.

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Reply #54 posted 03/31/07 8:16pm

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TonyVanDam said:

Mozorro said:

Well technically didn't all of Prince's muses fuck 4 tracks as well?


Most of them did.

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Well, at least he got SOMETHING out of the deal. We were the ones who had to suffer lol
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Reply #55 posted 03/31/07 8:23pm

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lastdecember said:

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You know there are just as many if not more examples of women manipulating men in this same manner so what's with the examples? I could sit here and spill examples to make my point from here to eternity. Madonna is a living example. Look at how many men she slept with to advance. Lots of shady deals go down. You seem to always find a way to blame the guy. In Christina's case - no dice. She's a SLUT, and a damn good vocalist.


Im just defending women more because you have to admit the scale is tilted in mens favor. I mean its basic 101 of history especially in the industry, if Mariah Carey wears a short skirt she is a slut, if Justin takes his shirt off hes Sexy. Its that kind of stuff that i think is the more frustrating thing and im not even a woman. We would be so quick to believe some woman sleeping around but be all sentimental when R kelly sleeps with kids, we just chalk that up to, well the woman is a slut and she said she was old enough so its not his fault, whatever happend to being responsible, I mean is he an adult? Little things like that all add up and tip the scale. So are there shady women of course, but there are some shady males out there too. Its been that way through history, did Madonna sleep around in the early days, sure, did Prince screw every woman he worked with and when they wouldnt give it up he tossed them aside.



The whole drama is just plain nasty, regardless if its the man or woman found gulity. Remember, it take two to have sex, so FFT is trashy on both genders.

Also, to make things even:

1. Justin Timberlake can be a total manwhore at times.

2. R.Kelly is gulity for having sex with underage girls, and most of them weren't even FFT as far as we think we know.

3. The world is full of shady people, especially in the entertainment industry. And it's best to handle your business like DTA (Don't Trust Anyone/Anyplace/Anything !!!)

4. Madonna has been married (the second time) a lot long than Prince has. Even Madonna's first marriage lasted longer than Prince's first marriage.
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Reply #56 posted 03/31/07 8:26pm

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bboy87 said:

TonyVanDam said:



Most of them did.

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Well, at least he got SOMETHING out of the deal. We were the ones who had to suffer lol


Damn that, Mayte is still hot in my eyes!

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Reply #57 posted 03/31/07 9:04pm

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bboy87 said:


Well, at least he got SOMETHING out of the deal. We were the ones who had to suffer lol


Damn that, Mayte is still hot in my eyes!



Just from Cassie's people

March 28, 2007. Yesterday MediaTakeOut.com was swarmed with tips from readers claiming that Bad Boy recording artist Cassie was pregnant. It turns out that those reports stemmed from the above pic, which shows a very pregnant looking Cassie standing next to her manager Ryan Leslie.

But as soon as we started investigating this story, we uncovered the below pics, which were taken just a couple of weeks ago. And in those pics, Cassie's tummy looks flat as a board.

But we wanted to be 100% sure before we dispelled such a juicy rumor. So we asked our Bad Boy insider whether they believed Cassie was pregnant. The tipster told MediaTakeOut.com, "I saw her a few weeks ago, she's definitely not pregnant ... Besides, that girl is way to smart to let that happen to her."

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lastdecember said:

Just from Cassie's people

" ... Besides, that girl is way to smart to let that happen to her."


Sooooo, she got smart AFTER she stepped off stage @ BET?? confused
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Reply #59 posted 03/31/07 9:31pm

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lastdecember said:

Just from Cassie's people

" ... Besides, that girl is way to smart to let that happen to her."


Sooooo, she got smart AFTER she stepped off stage @ BET?? confused


The BET incident was a joke, sure she sucked, but 99% of people that perform on 106th and park perform with their backing track etc.. I caught Ne-yo on there once and he was worse, and he is supposed to be the big star in RB right now, wow now thats sad

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