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lastdecember

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What happend to ROCK Females???

I was listening to some Pat Benatar last night, early stuff and some recent stuff and i thought, Where the hell are rock females?? Think about it, can you name one? Joan Jett, Pat and Heart are really the only ones that still record, but think about what gets hyped and pushed there are no real rock females out there, the female artists out there are either sex objects (beyonce,xtina) or nut jobs (bjork,lily allen etc) but ROCK, there are none. And dont say Jewel,Lucinda Williams or Norah because though they are good too, they arent ROCK. So have Rock Females been reduced to Avril and Kelly Clarkson? Sad Sad Sad.

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Reply #1 posted 03/22/07 9:19am

Empress

lastdecember said:

I was listening to some Pat Benatar last night, early stuff and some recent stuff and i thought, Where the hell are rock females?? Think about it, can you name one? Joan Jett, Pat and Heart are really the only ones that still record, but think about what gets hyped and pushed there are no real rock females out there, the female artists out there are either sex objects (beyonce,xtina) or nut jobs (bjork,lily allen etc) but ROCK, there are none. And dont say Jewel,Lucinda Williams or Norah because though they are good too, they arent ROCK. So have Rock Females been reduced to Avril and Kelly Clarkson? Sad Sad Sad.


I know exactly what you mean. I used to love Melissa Etheridge but I find her music a bit dull the past few years. I don't think there is any female artist out there today that I like as far as a rocker goes. Avril and Kelly ill and I'm not a fan of Courtney Love. I do have some Heart cd's but most are ages old. We need a good female rocker!! Where is she??
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Reply #2 posted 03/22/07 9:23am

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lastdecember said:

I was listening to some Pat Benatar last night, early stuff and some recent stuff and i thought, Where the hell are rock females?? Think about it, can you name one? Joan Jett, Pat and Heart are really the only ones that still record, but think about what gets hyped and pushed there are no real rock females out there, the female artists out there are either sex objects (beyonce,xtina) or nut jobs (bjork,lily allen etc) but ROCK, there are none. And dont say Jewel,Lucinda Williams or Norah because though they are good too, they arent ROCK. So have Rock Females been reduced to Avril and Kelly Clarkson? Sad Sad Sad.


I know exactly what you mean. I used to love Melissa Etheridge but I find her music a bit dull the past few years. I don't think there is any female artist out there today that I like as far as a rocker goes. Avril and Kelly ill and I'm not a fan of Courtney Love. I do have some Heart cd's but most are ages old. We need a good female rocker!! Where is she??


I saw this girl the other day called Marion Raven, and she was doing that kind of ROCK, like early Alanis but even harder rock, but she also had that Sex appeal like a Lita Ford would have back in the day, that is seriously missing today. This artist Marion Raven is based out of the Netherlands, though she is in English, she also has done vocals with Meat Loaf too on his latest Rock Opera.

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Reply #3 posted 03/22/07 9:27am

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I could namecheck Skunk Anansie, but they're not together anymore.
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Reply #4 posted 03/22/07 9:27am

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lastdecember said:

What happend to ROCK

it died.
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Reply #5 posted 03/22/07 9:27am

Empress

lastdecember said:

Empress said:



I know exactly what you mean. I used to love Melissa Etheridge but I find her music a bit dull the past few years. I don't think there is any female artist out there today that I like as far as a rocker goes. Avril and Kelly ill and I'm not a fan of Courtney Love. I do have some Heart cd's but most are ages old. We need a good female rocker!! Where is she??


I saw this girl the other day called Marion Raven, and she was doing that kind of ROCK, like early Alanis but even harder rock, but she also had that Sex appeal like a Lita Ford would have back in the day, that is seriously missing today. This artist Marion Raven is based out of the Netherlands, though she is in English, she also has done vocals with Meat Loaf too on his latest Rock Opera.


Hmmm - maybe I will have to check her out. I used to like Alanis too, but her music lately is boring IMO.
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NWF said:

I could namecheck Skunk Anansie, but they're not together anymore.

Shame they never did broke in the states....going to see if skin was name checked in the black rocker thread.
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Reply #7 posted 03/22/07 9:38am

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Someone (can't remember the poster) mentioned the group Three5Human.
(originally called Stereo Popsicle)

After checking out some of their music, Trina Meade has potential.
Based on music biz politics, imo the group has some unfortunate major obstacles.


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Reply #8 posted 03/22/07 9:42am

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"She made me glad to be a man"
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theAudience said:

Someone (can't remember the poster) mentioned the group Three5Human.
(originally called Stereo Popsicle)

After checking out some of their music, Trina Meade has potential.Based on music biz politics, imo the group has some unfortunate major obstacles.


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Spot on....I can't remember the poster, either, but it was one of us Atlantans....

I've seen them perform a couple of times now....awesome....

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Reply #10 posted 03/22/07 10:04am

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If you know me then you know I'm a big champion of women in rock. These are current female rock artists/female-fronted rock bands I'm into:

AIDS Wolf (experimental, noise)
Aterciopelados (Latin-alternative)
The Bellrays (garage, soul)
Bif Naked (hard rock)
Damone (metal, punk)
The Donnas (hard rock, punk)
The Epoxies (new wave, punk)
Erase Errata (indie, no wave, postpunk)
Giant Drag (indie, alternative)
Gore Gore Girls (garage)
PJ Harvey (alternative, indie)
Horrorpops (psychobilly, punk)
Icaro Azul (Latin-alternative, indie)
Jucifer (art-metal, experimental)
Kittie (metal)
Lacuna Coil (metal)
Le Tigre (electro-punk, indie)
The Like (alternative, indie)
The Long Blondes (indie, post punk)
Lullacry (metal)
Made In Mexico (experimental, noise)
Metric (new wave, punk, indie)
Morningwood (alternative, new wave, hard rock)
My Ruin (metal)
Pretty Girls Make Graves (indie, no wave)
The Raveonettes (alternative)
Sahara Hotnights (garage)
Scarling. (indie, alternative, hard rock)
The Sounds (new wave, punk)
theSTART (new wave, alternative, indie)
Yeah Yeah Yeahs (alternative)

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Reply #11 posted 03/22/07 10:50am

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judging from the reviews of her new album Tori Amos is about to go rock eek
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #12 posted 03/22/07 11:25am

UptownDame

They are out there. You just gotta get off commercial radio.

Check out Halestorm. Lzzy (she dropped her i a long time ago) has one of the best voices out there and she plays guitar. They are even on a major label, Atlantic.

Lennon rocks.

A lot of sextonseven list I am familiar with and they rock.

To NWF: SKIN(Skunk Anansie) is alive and well with a new record out in the UK.
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Just thought of someone, who if she wanted to, could fit the bill with ease in the classic Hard Rock style.

Roach...



...of Cafe R&B

I'm guessing she got tired of the uphill Rock battle because the current material is Blues/R&B.
We crossed paths as Black artists fighting the good fight on the L.A. Rock circuit during the early 80s.
I was with Marcus Malone and she was in a group called Roach & The Whiteboys.
(a concept created by her mentor at the time, Brian O'Neal of The Busboys)
One of the high points of her set back then was an incendiary version of Elvis Costello's Pump It Up.


Check out a sample of Tall Grass (don't let the intro fool you) from...



...Black&White


And Snatch It Back And Hold It from...



...Blues and all the Rest


"Imagine Etta James riding a Harley out of an active volcano, and you'll have some vague inkling as to the vocal power emanating from 'Roach', the fronywoman of L.A. blues and groove unit Cafe R&B. But don't take our word for it; the group has earned raves from the likes of Ike Turner and Buddy Guy, who've seen a few blues acts in their day." - HITS Magazine

"Knocked me on my butt. I ain't seen shit like that since me and you-know-who." - Ike Turner


She could easily be one of the legitimate elite female R&B/Rock singers of the day.
Wouldn't have to look funny or act weird, just be herself and sing.




http://www.caferandb.com


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Reply #14 posted 03/22/07 11:37am

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theAudience said:

Just thought of someone, who if she wanted to, could fit the bill with ease in the classic Hard Rock style.

Roach...



...of Cafe R&B

I'm guessing she got tired of the uphill Rock battle because the current material is Blues/R&B.
We crossed paths as Black artists fighting the good fight on the L.A. Rock circuit during the early 80s.
I was with Marcus Malone and she was in a group called Roach & The Whiteboys.
(a concept created by her mentor at the time, Brian O'Neal of The Busboys)
One of the high points of her set back then was an incendiary version of Elvis Costello's Pump It Up.


Check out a sample of Tall Grass from...



...Black&White


And Snatch It Back And Hold It from...



...Blues and all the Rest


"Imagine Etta James riding a Harley out of an active volcano, and you'll have some vague inkling as to the vocal power emanating from 'Roach', the fronywoman of L.A. blues and groove unit Cafe R&B. But don't take our word for it; the group has earned raves from the likes of Ike Turner and Buddy Guy, who've seen a few blues acts in their day." - HITS Magazine

"Knocked me on my butt. I ain't seen shit like that since me and you-know-who." - Ike Turner


She could easily be one of the legitimate elite female R&B/Rock singers of the day.
Wouldn't have to look funny or act weird, just be herself and sing.




http://www.caferandb.com


tA

peace Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431




Wow...intresting, never heard of this band...very underground!
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Reply #15 posted 03/22/07 12:01pm

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sextonseven said:

If you know me then you know I'm a big champion of women in rock. These are current female rock artists/female-fronted rock bands I'm into:

AIDS Wolf (experimental, noise)
Aterciopelados (Latin-alternative)
The Bellrays (garage, soul)
Bif Naked (hard rock)
Damone (metal, punk)
The Donnas (hard rock, punk)
The Epoxies (new wave, punk)
Erase Errata (indie, no wave, postpunk)
Giant Drag (indie, alternative)
Gore Gore Girls (garage)
PJ Harvey (alternative, indie)
Horrorpops (psychobilly, punk)
Icaro Azul (Latin-alternative, indie)
Jucifer (art-metal, experimental)
Kittie (metal)
Lacuna Coil (metal)
Le Tigre (electro-punk, indie)
The Like (alternative, indie)
The Long Blondes (indie, post punk)
Lullacry (metal)
Made In Mexico (experimental, noise)
Metric (new wave, punk, indie)
Morningwood (alternative, new wave, hard rock)
My Ruin (metal)
Pretty Girls Make Graves (indie, no wave)
The Raveonettes (alternative)
Sahara Hotnights (garage)
Scarling. (indie, alternative, hard rock)
The Sounds (new wave, punk)
theSTART (new wave, alternative, indie)
Yeah Yeah Yeahs (alternative)

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Good list sextonseven! I love female rockers as well.

My Ruin are excellent. Did you know that Tairrie B used to be a rapper and signed to Eazy-E/NWA's label Ruthless Records? My friend Quincy "QD3" Jones III (yes, the son of THE quincy jones), produced some of her songs on Ruthless.
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Reply #16 posted 03/22/07 12:06pm

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lonelygurl8305 said:


Wow...intresting, never heard of this band...very underground!

Their sound isn't underground imo, but classic Blues/R&B
I guess they could be considered underground due to the fact that not many folks know about them.

They're worth checking out though. cool


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Reply #17 posted 03/22/07 12:19pm

lonelygurl8305

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Isnt that Lita Ford?
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Reply #18 posted 03/22/07 12:24pm

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Militant said:

sextonseven said:

If you know me then you know I'm a big champion of women in rock. These are current female rock artists/female-fronted rock bands I'm into:

AIDS Wolf (experimental, noise)
Aterciopelados (Latin-alternative)
The Bellrays (garage, soul)
Bif Naked (hard rock)
Damone (metal, punk)
The Donnas (hard rock, punk)
The Epoxies (new wave, punk)
Erase Errata (indie, no wave, postpunk)
Giant Drag (indie, alternative)
Gore Gore Girls (garage)
PJ Harvey (alternative, indie)
Horrorpops (psychobilly, punk)
Icaro Azul (Latin-alternative, indie)
Jucifer (art-metal, experimental)
Kittie (metal)
Lacuna Coil (metal)
Le Tigre (electro-punk, indie)
The Like (alternative, indie)
The Long Blondes (indie, post punk)
Lullacry (metal)
Made In Mexico (experimental, noise)
Metric (new wave, punk, indie)
Morningwood (alternative, new wave, hard rock)
My Ruin (metal)
Pretty Girls Make Graves (indie, no wave)
The Raveonettes (alternative)
Sahara Hotnights (garage)
Scarling. (indie, alternative, hard rock)
The Sounds (new wave, punk)
theSTART (new wave, alternative, indie)
Yeah Yeah Yeahs (alternative)

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[Edited 3/22/07 10:05am]




Good list sextonseven! I love female rockers as well.

My Ruin are excellent. Did you know that Tairrie B used to be a rapper and signed to Eazy-E/NWA's label Ruthless Records? My friend Quincy "QD3" Jones III (yes, the son of THE quincy jones), produced some of her songs on Ruthless.


I remember Tairrie B. She has said in interviews that Dr. Dre assaulted her once and that's what made her leave rap.
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They are out there. You just gotta get off commercial radio.

Check out Halestorm. Lzzy (she dropped her i a long time ago) has one of the best voices out there and she plays guitar. They are even on a major label, Atlantic.

Lennon rocks.

A lot of sextonseven list I am familiar with and they rock.

To NWF: SKIN(Skunk Anansie) is alive and well with a new record out in the UK.
[Edited 3/22/07 11:29am]


Lennon is very cool. I have her first album. Her second album I heard was all solo piano pieces which sounds interesting. I need to get that one.
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Reply #20 posted 03/22/07 12:39pm

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This is the Marion Raven girl i was speaking of, i caught her on the IMF video channel which shows vids 24/7 from everywhere, at first i thought she was like an Avril rock girl but the more i heard she was like this 80's type rock, lita ford sounding.


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Reply #21 posted 03/22/07 12:44pm

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Additional current female rock artists I know:

Evanescence (hard rock)
Flyleaf (hard rock)
The Gathering (metal)
Leaves' Eyes (metal)
Otep (metal)
Shiny Toy Guns (new wave, alternative)
Walls Of Jericho (metal)
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sextonseven said:

Additional current female rock artists I know:

Evanescence (hard rock)
Flyleaf (hard rock)
The Gathering (metal)
Leaves' Eyes (metal)
Otep (metal)
Shiny Toy Guns (new wave, alternative)
Walls Of Jericho (metal)

Aaaah...Jada? cool


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Reply #23 posted 03/22/07 12:54pm

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theAudience said:

sextonseven said:

Additional current female rock artists I know:

Evanescence (hard rock)
Flyleaf (hard rock)
The Gathering (metal)
Leaves' Eyes (metal)
Otep (metal)
Shiny Toy Guns (new wave, alternative)
Walls Of Jericho (metal)

Aaaah...Jada? cool


tA

peace Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431


That's your job to remind people of Wicked Wisdom. razz
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Reply #24 posted 03/22/07 12:55pm

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Oh yeah, and Persia White (who is the only reason why I watch that UPN piece of crap called "Girlfriends") plays in a band called XE03.
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Reply #25 posted 03/22/07 1:21pm

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sextonseven said:


That's your job to remind people of Wicked Wisdom. razz

Oh I see, just leave me out there with my a$$ out. disbelief


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Reply #26 posted 03/22/07 5:15pm

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I like Nightwish a lot. The band are fronted by the wonderful Tarja Turunen who is a classically trained vocalist.



Check out their video End Of All Hope:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=p6xaIPszwpo
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I like Nightwish a lot. The band are fronted by the wonderful Tarja Turunen who is a classically trained vocalist.




Not anymore. Tarja left the band some time last year, or rather she was kicked out I believe. There is a new vocalist, but the band will not announce the name until later this year. I honestly don't even know if the new singer is male or female which is why I didn't place them on my list. I have two of Nightwish's albums 'Oceanborn' and 'Wishmaster' and saw them live once when they played with Lullacry here in NYC a few years ago--nice mix of operatic vocals and progressive metal. I hope the band continues in that vein with the new vocalist.
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LightOfArt said:

I like Nightwish a lot. The band are fronted by the wonderful Tarja Turunen who is a classically trained vocalist.



Check out their video End Of All Hope:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=p6xaIPszwpo


Tarja left/got kicked out of Nightwish a while back. Lemme check on wikipedia.


Here we go:

After the recording in the Hartwall Areena (Helsinki) on the 21st of October, 2005, of the new live DVD End of an Era (released June 2006), the four other members of Nightwish decided that it was best to continue Nightwish without Tarja Turunen,[11] a feeling they expressed through an open letter which was given to Turunen by Tuomas Holopainen after the concert, and afterwards posted on the band's website. The main justification of Turunen's dismissal given in the letter was that the band felt that her husband Marcelo Cabuli, a Argentinian businessman, and commercial interests had changed her attitude towards the band.

Turunen has responded to the incident, saying that her dismissal came entirely as a shock to her. She felt that the personal attacks on her husband were unwarranted, and that playing the issue out to the public was "senselessly cruel". Turunen was not consulted or spoken to before the letter was given to her. She expressed these feeling through her own open letter, which was published on her personal website[12] and through various TV, magazine, and newspaper interviews.

To find a replacement for Turunen as the female vocalist of the band, on March 17, 2006 the band allowed vocalists interested for the position to send in demo tapes as an audition for the spot. The band stated that it was looking for a vocalist with the ability to sing with good dynamics and versatility. However, to the surprise of some fans, the band did not specifically ask for a classically trained singer, but were open to a variety of styles and backgrounds. By the time auditions were over on January 15, 2007, the band had received over 2000 demo tapes.

During this time, speculation began to emerge as to who would eventually succeed Turunen as the female vocalist for the band. On December 6, "Lady Angellyca" of the Spanish band Forever Slave issued a statement in which she said that she was one of the strong candidates to fill the vacant role.[13] Simone Simons from the band Epica was also reported to have been chosen by Nightwish to be their new vocalist by Finnish gossip magazine called Katso!, which Simons has denied.

In response to these and other rumors, the band stated on their website that fans should not believe any source other than the band itself for information regarding the new vocalist.

The new vocalist will be revealed on May 30, 2007 along with the release of a new single, Eva, in which she is featured.
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Reply #29 posted 03/22/07 5:59pm

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I didnt know eek To me Tarja IS Nightwish! Big mistake
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