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Thread started 04/01/07 6:41pm

lilgish

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Hey "Press", everything Michael does or did, is not weird

http://www.nydailynews.co...fk_jr.html

A new biography of Michael Jackson contains stories that are eyebrow-raising even for his weird life.

"Jacko: His Rise and Fall" recounts an encounter between Truman Capote, Jackson and a teenage John F. Kennedy Jr. that the author claims Capote told him about.

"Jackie [Kennedy] invited Michael to accompany her to the Robert Kennedy Tennis Tournament, where she introduced him to her children," Darwin Porter writes.

Jackson and Capote were then invited by JFK Jr. to the locker room after he played a match. "At the time, I didn't know John-John was an exhibitionist," Porter reports Capote said. "Before both Michael and me, John-John peeled off."

Later, Jackie - sensing something was off with her son's new buddy - "intervened and nipped Michael's friendship with John-John in the bud."


There's also a hilarious account of a dinner party at the home of Liberace ("Just call me Cuddles, dear boy"), where Mae West told the young Jackson: "Let me give you some advice, kid. You should develop a distinctive walk on the stage."

Porter said that story was told to him by Liberace's former boyfriend, who was present.


See, how the story makes it seem like MJ is going after a teenage JFKjr, Michael is only two years older than JFK jr. How are those stories eyebrow-raising? The media can say anything about him without backing up it. Triplets anyone?
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Reply #1 posted 04/01/07 6:54pm

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*Sigh* Will it ever end?

I mean really this story is ridiculous. Jackie ended up writing MJ's biography in the 80's so she couldn't have been that alarmed by MJ's behavior and as you pointed out Michael is only 2 years older than JFK JR. so that whole thing is just ridiculous. The media is so twisted.
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Reply #2 posted 04/01/07 7:15pm

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Cinnamon234 said:

*Sigh* Will it ever end?

I mean really this story is ridiculous. Jackie ended up writing MJ's biography in the 80's so she couldn't have been that alarmed by MJ's behavior and as you pointed out Michael is only 2 years older than JFK JR. so that whole thing is just ridiculous. The media is so twisted.
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Well. Jackie O was friends with Michael until she died so that's confusing
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Reply #3 posted 04/01/07 7:34pm

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yeah I was gonna say... that would have been a healthy relationship lol
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Reply #4 posted 04/01/07 8:13pm

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I'm not saying Michael ISN'T wierd, because that would be a lie, but there's times when the press exaggerates it to the point where you can tell it's bullshit. Having an agenda against the dude is hilarious lol
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Reply #5 posted 04/01/07 8:46pm

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I agree BBoy. I think we can all see that MJ is "different" for lack of a better word, but the press GROSSLY exaggerates things when it comes to him. Take Roger Friedman from Fox News for example. That idiot lives for making up things about Michael. The guy actually goes to Michael fan boards to get "news" and I know this because he's outed himself several times in articles. I have never in my life heard of a "journalist" or news reporter who dedicated 90% of their stories to one person the way Roger does w/Michael. Many of them have an agenda.

The backlash has been going on since the late 80's when the media started with all that "Wacko Jacko" bulls*it so It's defenitly not something new.
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Reply #6 posted 04/01/07 9:15pm

ThreadBare

Without commenting on that "story," I can't help but recall how it's been documented by reporters that MJ's publicists fueled a lot of that Wacko-mania themselves, at MJ's behest.

He has pursued notoriety, in many instances and various ways, and has gotten it.
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Reply #7 posted 04/01/07 10:06pm

novabrkr

lilgish said:

There's also a hilarious account of a dinner party at the home of Liberace ("Just call me Cuddles, dear boy"), where Mae West told the young Jackson: "Let me give you some advice, kid. You should develop a distinctive walk on the stage."


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Reply #8 posted 04/01/07 10:45pm

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I don't understand the big deal about those stories, infact they make it seem that JFK jnr, who has someone said was only 2 yrs younger than MJ the main exbitionist.!!

But has someone has said MJ did fuel his own wacko image, so whether something is true or not, it doesn't really matter anymore, because people are going to believe it anyway.
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Reply #9 posted 04/01/07 11:31pm

CinisterCee

ThreadBare said:

He has pursued notoriety, in many instances and various ways, and has gotten it.


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Reply #10 posted 04/01/07 11:51pm

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CinisterCee said:

ThreadBare said:

He has pursued notoriety, in many instances and various ways, and has gotten it.




I wish I could find a good quality copy of that pic on the net.
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Reply #11 posted 04/02/07 12:23am

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I am amazed with how much stupidity is the press able to get away with and ppl accept it as a fact. I know that Mike is "different" but the public is willing to believe the most outragous things that are too much even for "MJ´s weirdness". I don´t know if it´s because the public is really that stupid or because they just love to hate him.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #12 posted 04/02/07 3:50am

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ThreadBare said:

Without commenting on that "story," I can't help but recall how it's been documented by reporters that MJ's publicists fueled a lot of that Wacko-mania themselves, at MJ's behest.

He has pursued notoriety, in many instances and various ways, and has gotten it.


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Reply #13 posted 04/02/07 8:40am

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whatsgoingon said:

I don't understand the big deal about those stories, infact they make it seem that JFK jnr, who has someone said was only 2 yrs younger than MJ the main exhibitionist.!!


exhibitionist? not even. He's in a locker room...and he's no issue changing in front of two gay men. There's no story here, if this happened with regular joes, this wouldn't even be mentioned. zzz
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Reply #14 posted 04/02/07 12:04pm

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Artists are invariably quirky by nature. And MJ has as many quirks as anyone. But as the media and society raised MJ in adulation for them at the height in his popularity, they want to bury him for those same quirks they came to love about him.

Eddie Murphy was on to something in Raw. When he carried Webster in his arms at the Grammys, no one said much except how "childlike" (i.e., clean-cut) he was. When he built Neverland, same thing. But when his sales fell off, and he was accused of child molestation, everything he did was magnified into some type of evil weirdness. There was a fine line, and he navigated it well. For a while.

Now he's burdened by a lot of the same things he was adored for.
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Reply #15 posted 04/02/07 1:25pm

CinisterCee

lilgish said:

whatsgoingon said:

I don't understand the big deal about those stories, infact they make it seem that JFK jnr, who has someone said was only 2 yrs younger than MJ the main exhibitionist.!!


exhibitionist? not even. He's in a locker room...and he's no issue changing in front of two gay men. There's no story here, if this happened with regular joes, this wouldn't even be mentioned. zzz


Exactly. What a bizarre misrepresentation of events.
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Reply #16 posted 04/02/07 7:04pm

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namepeace said:

Artists are invariably quirky by nature. And MJ has as many quirks as anyone. But as the media and society raised MJ in adulation for them at the height in his popularity, they want to bury him for those same quirks they came to love about him.

Eddie Murphy was on to something in Raw. When he carried Webster in his arms at the Grammys, no one said much except how "childlike" (i.e., clean-cut) he was. When he built Neverland, same thing. But when his sales fell off, and he was accused of child molestation, everything he did was magnified into some type of evil weirdness. There was a fine line, and he navigated it well. For a while.

Now he's burdened by a lot of the same things he was adored for.


Naw, bruh. Folks in my family were scratching their heads loudly with the "Webster" situation, as it was happening.
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Reply #17 posted 04/02/07 7:25pm

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ThreadBare said:

namepeace said:

Artists are invariably quirky by nature. And MJ has as many quirks as anyone. But as the media and society raised MJ in adulation for them at the height in his popularity, they want to bury him for those same quirks they came to love about him.

Eddie Murphy was on to something in Raw. When he carried Webster in his arms at the Grammys, no one said much except how "childlike" (i.e., clean-cut) he was. When he built Neverland, same thing. But when his sales fell off, and he was accused of child molestation, everything he did was magnified into some type of evil weirdness. There was a fine line, and he navigated it well. For a while.

Now he's burdened by a lot of the same things he was adored for.


Naw, bruh. Folks in my family were scratching their heads loudly with the "Webster" situation, as it was happening.


The Emmanuel Lewis thing was odd, but we've seen stranger things eg MJ and Madonna lol . Strangely, Emmanuel is one of the few friends he has who HASN'T turned on him smile
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Reply #18 posted 04/02/07 9:08pm

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ThreadBare said:

namepeace said:

Artists are invariably quirky by nature. And MJ has as many quirks as anyone. But as the media and society raised MJ in adulation for them at the height in his popularity, they want to bury him for those same quirks they came to love about him.

Eddie Murphy was on to something in Raw. When he carried Webster in his arms at the Grammys, no one said much except how "childlike" (i.e., clean-cut) he was. When he built Neverland, same thing. But when his sales fell off, and he was accused of child molestation, everything he did was magnified into some type of evil weirdness. There was a fine line, and he navigated it well. For a while.

Now he's burdened by a lot of the same things he was adored for.


Naw, bruh. Folks in my family were scratching their heads loudly with the "Webster" situation, as it was happening.


Oh, let's be clear, as a teenager, I saw him with Brooke Shields on his arm, and he was giving all his attention to Webster, and I thought he had lost his natural black mind.

Remember who Eddie was addressing in Raw . . . smile
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Reply #19 posted 04/02/07 10:39pm

ThreadBare

namepeace said:

ThreadBare said:



Naw, bruh. Folks in my family were scratching their heads loudly with the "Webster" situation, as it was happening.


Oh, let's be clear, as a teenager, I saw him with Brooke Shields on his arm, and he was giving all his attention to Webster, and I thought he had lost his natural black mind.

Remember who Eddie was addressing in Raw . . . smile


I don't remember. Come to think of it, I never saw more than a snippet of that film.
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Reply #20 posted 04/02/07 10:45pm

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The Daily News is diffently creating something there in more senses than one...not to defend MJ's past behavoir though.
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Reply #21 posted 04/03/07 12:25am

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ThreadBare said:

Without commenting on that "story," I can't help but recall how it's been documented by reporters that MJ's publicists fueled a lot of that Wacko-mania themselves, at MJ's behest.

He has pursued notoriety, in many instances and various ways, and has gotten it.

It's a shame because that shit is 20 years old now. They should get over it - he played them and they played him. That was then and this is now. People change. I'm sure he wasn't the only one.
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Reply #22 posted 04/03/07 2:36am

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Ellie said:

ThreadBare said:

Without commenting on that "story," I can't help but recall how it's been documented by reporters that MJ's publicists fueled a lot of that Wacko-mania themselves, at MJ's behest.

He has pursued notoriety, in many instances and various ways, and has gotten it.

It's a shame because that shit is 20 years old now. They should get over it - he played them and they played him. That was then and this is now. People change. I'm sure he wasn't the only one.

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Reply #23 posted 04/03/07 10:20am

CinisterCee

Ellie said:

ThreadBare said:

Without commenting on that "story," I can't help but recall how it's been documented by reporters that MJ's publicists fueled a lot of that Wacko-mania themselves, at MJ's behest.

He has pursued notoriety, in many instances and various ways, and has gotten it.

It's a shame because that shit is 20 years old now. They should get over it - he played them and they played him. That was then and this is now. People change. I'm sure he wasn't the only one.


That's true.
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Reply #24 posted 04/03/07 10:38am

live4lust

puhleaze. rolleyes
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Reply #25 posted 04/06/07 7:48am

novabrkr

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Oh wow. For a moment I really thought the text on the machine itself read, "BE CHRIST".
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