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Reply #30 posted 03/22/07 3:53pm

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lastdecember said:

But thats the thing, at least theres instruments,songwriting,music being played, like her or not is not the issue, if u find her boring thats cool, everyone cant like everyone. I mean i think THICKE is the most boring thing ever and yet people praise him like he walked on water, but i do respect he at least plays,writes and respects music. I dont feel this of mainstream artists like JT or Timbaland and others this is what i want to NOT get the attention it gets, the playing field needs to be levelled.

here we go with "Thicke is boring" again...whew this org has been busy with JOSS and THICKE this week.
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Reply #31 posted 03/22/07 3:55pm

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missfee said:

lastdecember said:

But thats the thing, at least theres instruments,songwriting,music being played, like her or not is not the issue, if u find her boring thats cool, everyone cant like everyone. I mean i think THICKE is the most boring thing ever and yet people praise him like he walked on water, but i do respect he at least plays,writes and respects music. I dont feel this of mainstream artists like JT or Timbaland and others this is what i want to NOT get the attention it gets, the playing field needs to be levelled.

here we go with "Thicke is boring" again...whew this org has been busy with JOSS and THICKE this week.

the org always does that... they pick a few people to talk about for about a week or two. and then move on to the next thing... one week britney spears, next michael jackson, next janet jackson, next madonna, etc
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Reply #32 posted 03/22/07 3:59pm

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TotalAlisa said:


what is that.. never heard..... and you know what it (picture)it says to me she sleeps with him... lol lol

whether she is sleeping with him or not, the picture still has no point. what she has said about the picture makes no damn sense..."it's a creation from my vision, and it symbolized what i want to say...." which is what? i'm naked with my producer covered with paint???

will we see timbaland naked with timberfake on the inside cover of timberfake's next album covered in milk chocolate?

what about MJ covered in Jesus Juice with Will.I.Am?

or Dr. Dre and 50 cent wrestling in mud?



please stop you are killing me. now i'm going to have those images stuck in my head! lol
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Reply #33 posted 03/22/07 4:46pm

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abierman said:




oh puhleaze.....why?? confused



because she isn't taking ownership of her own damn nakedself...she should be telling folks, "yeah...i got booty naked with saadiq..deal with it"...instead when i read her comments i read a little girl frightened by the potential backlash her actions caused and running away from them...just. like. justin.



I get what you want to say, but why not assume that they just thought it'd be a fun pic to take? No big deal behind it??? I figure that thoughts are raised because Joss is white and Saadiq is black.....to me, no big deal! Maybe also not to them.....
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Reply #34 posted 03/22/07 5:23pm

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bboy87 said:

CalhounSq said:

Joss is right. I mean damn, doesn't everyone pose naked w/ their producer's hand on their ass?? Geez people rolleyes





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Wait, Joss Stone has an ass? eek

lol Let's ask Raphael biggrin
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Reply #35 posted 03/22/07 5:24pm

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missfee said:

TotalAlisa said:


what is that.. never heard..... and you know what it (picture)it says to me she sleeps with him... lol lol

whether she is sleeping with him or not, the picture still has no point. what she has said about the picture makes no damn sense..."it's a creation from my vision, and it symbolized what i want to say...." which is what? i'm naked with my producer covered with paint???

will we see timbaland naked with timberfake on the inside cover of timberfake's next album covered in milk chocolate?

what about MJ covered in Jesus Juice with Will.I.Am?

or Dr. Dre and 50 cent wrestling in mud
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Reply #36 posted 03/22/07 5:36pm

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abierman said:

sosgemini said:




because she isn't taking ownership of her own damn nakedself...she should be telling folks, "yeah...i got booty naked with saadiq..deal with it"...instead when i read her comments i read a little girl frightened by the potential backlash her actions caused and running away from them...just. like. justin.



I get what you want to say, but why not assume that they just thought it'd be a fun pic to take? No big deal behind it??? I figure that thoughts are raised because Joss is white and Saadiq is black.....to me, no big deal! Maybe also not to them.....


I really don't think the big deal is as much interracial as it is the age difference. At least that was my first concern anyway.
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Reply #37 posted 03/22/07 5:41pm

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sextonseven said:

abierman said:




I get what you want to say, but why not assume that they just thought it'd be a fun pic to take? No big deal behind it??? I figure that thoughts are raised because Joss is white and Saadiq is black.....to me, no big deal! Maybe also not to them.....


I really don't think the big deal is as much interracial as it is the age difference. At least that was my first concern anyway.


My only concern is that I can't see her whole body clearly

Actually I think it's a cool shot. And while she didn't explain it well, it represents to me the melding of the artist & producer, with no barriers in between themselves or between us and them, as a unified piece of art, as represented by the paint.

It's goofy, and a publicity thing, but it does have meaning, I think--just like Lovesexy.
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Reply #38 posted 03/22/07 5:48pm

abierman

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sextonseven said:



I really don't think the big deal is as much interracial as it is the age difference. At least that was my first concern anyway.


My only concern is that I can't see her whole body clearly


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Reply #39 posted 03/22/07 5:57pm

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sextonseven said:

abierman said:




I get what you want to say, but why not assume that they just thought it'd be a fun pic to take? No big deal behind it??? I figure that thoughts are raised because Joss is white and Saadiq is black.....to me, no big deal! Maybe also not to them.....


I really don't think the big deal is as much interracial as it is the age difference. At least that was my first concern anyway.



im not concerned about either...but i do think she wimped her arse out of whatever artistic statement she was trying to make...no matter what that picture is sexual...and to not embrace that makes her look like an idiot...didn't her pr folks learn anything from jt? credibility is expecially important when you are courting an african american audience (which she is)....any whiff of poser and its all over...

and her dorky arse justification for her actions mightly smells of poser.
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Reply #40 posted 03/22/07 5:57pm

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NDRU said:

sextonseven said:



I really don't think the big deal is as much interracial as it is the age difference. At least that was my first concern anyway.


My only concern is that I can't see her whole body clearly

Actually I think it's a cool shot. And while she didn't explain it well, it represents to me the melding of the artist & producer, with no barriers in between themselves or between us and them, as a unified piece of art, as represented by the paint.

It's goofy, and a publicity thing, but it does have meaning, I think--just like Lovesexy.
[Edited 3/22/07 17:49pm]
Yes. It's obviously a stunt and it's working because people are talking. Good for her. My concern is more that it's so badly done. If you're going to make a statement, make it look good, not like a rough draft. That image comes close to being really good. I agree that it's not really sexual. It's provocative but not in a sexually way. Sure the undertones and overtones are all there, but it actually could be a really nice nude study (as well as a piece that communicates her vision)...if they'd done a better job.
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Reply #41 posted 03/22/07 6:01pm

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sosgemini said:

sextonseven said:



I really don't think the big deal is as much interracial as it is the age difference. At least that was my first concern anyway.



im not concerned about either...but i do think she wimped her arse out of whatever artistic statement she was trying to make...no matter what that picture is sexual...and to not embrace that makes her look like an idiot...didn't her pr folks learn anything from jt? credibility is expecially important when you are courting an african american audience (which she is)....any whiff of poser and its all over...

and her dorky arse justification for her actions mightly smells of poser.
You're right but it could also be that she's just not good at communication. Saying it's not sexual is a good thing if you're saying it's deeper than that (Especially after the JT thing). It seems that she got her lines all wrong.
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Reply #42 posted 03/22/07 6:02pm

Janfriend

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missfee said:


naw but Janet took a picture of her upper naked body with her (then) husband's hands covering her breasts....

key word... husband.. and ONLY breast... NOT COMPLETLY naked sitting on a mans genitals lol lol


Janet's pic was in 1993, controversial enough for the time is was done in
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Reply #43 posted 03/22/07 6:03pm

Janfriend

missfee said:

TotalAlisa said:


what is that.. never heard..... and you know what it (picture)it says to me she sleeps with him... lol lol

whether she is sleeping with him or not, the picture still has no point. what she has said about the picture makes no damn sense..."it's a creation from my vision, and it symbolized what i want to say...." which is what? i'm naked with my producer covered with paint???

will we see timbaland naked with timberfake on the inside cover of timberfake's next album covered in milk chocolate?

what about MJ covered in Jesus Juice with Will.I.Am?

or Dr. Dre and 50 cent wrestling in mud?


lol






Wait a minute...is this her wasy of saying she doesn't date the darkies?
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Reply #44 posted 03/22/07 6:06pm

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Janfriend said:

TotalAlisa said:


key word... husband.. and ONLY breast... NOT COMPLETLY naked sitting on a mans genitals lol lol


Janet's pic was in 1993, controversial enough for the time is was done in

anyone sitting butt naked on a mans genital is taking it WAY TOO FAR... its just NO comparison to janet's pic.... joss stone almost looks like an artistic porn star...

janet looks like someone trying to be risky or cool
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Reply #45 posted 03/22/07 6:10pm

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TotalAlisa said:

Janfriend said:



Janet's pic was in 1993, controversial enough for the time is was done in

anyone sitting butt naked on a mans genital is taking it WAY TOO FAR... its just NO comparison to janet's pic.... joss stone almost looks like an artistic porn star...

janet looks like someone trying to be risky or cool


I thought you were making a different point. I misunderstood
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Reply #46 posted 03/22/07 6:15pm

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"and they used the same instruments to construct the music for each song..."
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Can you explain what you mean?

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TotalAlisa said:

im not trying to be mean.. but i listened to her new album and ITS BORING... all the songs sound the same... and they used the same instruments to construct the music for each song... and thats the main reason why the music sounds the same..

also they lyrics are typical... BORING... she talks about "baby, baby baby", in the arms of my baby" how tyical can you get...

she was sleeping around.. for some typical boring songs ... that if you like really good music.. then this will bore you...


this album is soo boring... i forgot about joss stone already... i can't wait until 5 years from now.. and no one remembers her..
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Reply #47 posted 03/22/07 6:23pm

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just what i said... Im not sure exactly every instrument used for the music... but each song sounds like it has drums, guitar, piano...

and each song sounds pretty much the same... just the notes are changed a little.. and the songs sound "typical"... and the lyrics are "typical"... I have heard those lyrics many times before... she hasn't said anything that impressed me.... When you listen to lauren hill.. and then Joss stone.. you will she was i mean.. about Joss lyrics being "typical" elementry school...

and I bet she lost her voice... after recording each song.. cause it sounds like she is straining her throat... and her voice sometimes sounds weird...

overall this album is OKAY... its NOThing that will go down in history.. or it wont change the culture... cause she basically copied a lot of people...
its NOT special or different.... at times it sounds like she is shouting.. at other times.. it sounds like mariah or alicia keys... its like she can't pick on voice tone to sing in...

i really believe that if she keeps straining her voice.... in five years she won't be able to sing...
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Reply #48 posted 03/22/07 8:18pm

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banks said:

It says something and I wanted to say something, otherwise there's no point in doing it."

What is this pic saying ??? She haven't said..


Joss Stone is a cute & sexy young woman, without question. But for the moment, she must think North Americans are freaking stupid right? With that said, fill in the blank:

She _____ for tracks, plain and simple. hammer
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Reply #49 posted 03/22/07 8:22pm

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VenusBlingBling said:

lastdecember said:

The album is really good, its just so good to just Music from someone who respects music, there isnt much of that around today, plus Joss is growing with each album she is doing, from her "covers" cd, to "Mind Body and Soul" and now this, its great to witness the growth of an artist. As for the artwork, well its funny that ever issue about Joss lately doesnt concern her music, and once again its the double standard, a male artist posed with a woman on his cd cover or booklet is viewed as a sex symbol or a playa and never has to explain it, while a female artist has too. oh well thats the way game has always been set up.


I don't think that her being female has so much to do with it. I think what bothers people is that she is still a teenager and pictured naked together with her 41 year old producer.


BTW, Joss is 19.
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Reply #50 posted 03/22/07 9:00pm

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TonyVanDam said:

VenusBlingBling said:



I don't think that her being female has so much to do with it. I think what bothers people is that she is still a teenager and pictured naked together with her 41 year old producer.


BTW, Joss is 19.

lol Yea, nineTEEN = still a teenager smile
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Reply #51 posted 03/22/07 11:34pm

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whew this org has been busy with JOSS and THICKE this week.


i won't be picking their cds up. i've had overkill (on the org) before i even heard their whole albums.
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Reply #52 posted 03/23/07 5:21am

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CalhounSq said:

Joss is right. I mean damn, doesn't everyone pose naked w/ their producer's hand on their ass?? Geez people rolleyes

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Prince more or less did the same thing on the cover of Lovesexy...only he produced himself!
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Reply #53 posted 03/23/07 5:22am

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i hope her album is as insightful! lol


With a second-album title like "Introducing Joss Stone" how could it not be?


Third. Do some research before you speak.
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Reply #54 posted 03/23/07 5:25am

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viewaskew said:

NDRU said:



With a second-album title like "Introducing Joss Stone" how could it not be?


Third. Do some research before you speak.



this is her 3rd cd

Soul Sessions 2003
Mind, Body & Soul 2004
Introducing Joss Stone 2007
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Reply #55 posted 03/23/07 6:08am

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viewaskew said:

NDRU said:



With a second-album title like "Introducing Joss Stone" how could it not be?


Third. Do some research before you speak.



oh good grief people. rolleyes
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Reply #56 posted 03/23/07 9:34am

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viewaskew said:

NDRU said:



With a second-album title like "Introducing Joss Stone" how could it not be?


Third. Do some research before you speak.


lol dammit! I knew that would happen. Well, it's not her first, I think you knew what I meant
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Reply #57 posted 03/23/07 10:31am

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NDRU said:

viewaskew said:



Third. Do some research before you speak.


lol dammit! I knew that would happen. Well, it's not her first, I think you knew what I meant


The Joss police are no joke. They'll give anyone a beatdown if their facts aren't straight. lol
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Reply #58 posted 03/23/07 10:35am

abierman

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sextonseven said:



I really don't think the big deal is as much interracial as it is the age difference. At least that was my first concern anyway.



im not concerned about either...but i do think she wimped her arse out of whatever artistic statement she was trying to make...no matter what that picture is sexual...and to not embrace that makes her look like an idiot...didn't her pr folks learn anything from jt? credibility is expecially important when you are courting an african american audience (which she is)....any whiff of poser and its all over...

and her dorky arse justification for her actions mightly smells of poser.



Sos, I always respect your postings here but I think you're wrong here.....why do you think that? Why not just let her make the music she wants....without making it a race issue? You can't deny that the girl can sing, whether you like her or not.....
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Reply #59 posted 03/23/07 12:17pm

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sextonseven said:

NDRU said:



lol dammit! I knew that would happen. Well, it's not her first, I think you knew what I meant


The Joss police are no joke. They'll give anyone a beatdown if their facts aren't straight. lol




lol lol
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