BlaqueKnight said:

C'mon, that's some serious hyperbole. "Massive rotation"? Really? Maybe on your local station, but it didn't even appear on the R&B chart or the Top 100. Even moderate airplay gets you onto the chart; massive rotation gives you a hit.

BlaqueKnight said:

No, it was a full year in between the singles. The label should have 4 singles out by now. They're not supporting him like they should be

AlexdeParis said:

Perhaps massive was too strong of a word. It got standard hourly rotation on its first few weeks of its release.

Janfriend said:

They had less of an interest in pushing him until Justin happened. Then it became "hey, we've got a white soul singer, too. See!" and the hardcore promotion began. If they had planned on him being super-successful in the first place, most of the songs on his record would have been uptempo tracks because they would have rejected all those slow and mid tempo songs. They obviously decided to test him via the R&B crowd at first and hoped he would rise up through that path.
They are playing the hell out of him now. There's NO WAY any of you can claim otherwise. Dude is now in HEAVY ROTATION.

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AlexdeParis said:

Well, his first record didn't receive a push even though Justified became a hit. Also, you may want to remember that it's one of those mid-tempo songs that is the hit single. Anyway, for whatever reason, I'm glad they're finally promoting him. I've enjoyed both records and, after seeing Van get dropped, I'm glad the next Thicke album will probably arrive sooner rather than later. Now can we get more of those unreleased/promo tracks as b-sides...

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AlexdeParis said:

With one song.

That's not the label pushing him. That's the people liking it and fans like myself who are diligent in promoting him

Janfriend said:

Labels tell you what to like in mainstream media. You're given a set of choices and depending on your own personal taste, you choose from a selected set. Thicke is and always was geared toward mainstream. NO artist gets in the top 20 without strong label support. You can believe what you want to but that's the truth, not opinion. Its been that way for years now. Go ask Lyor Cohen if he would let some fan-supported unknown beat out an artist that he just sunk 20-30 million into and see what he would say. Fans don't run a damn thing in the big league. Fans control the fate of independant artists. That's about it...for now.

TonyVanDam said:

Naw, he really didn't do that. I just don't come back because I am here to state my opinion and had nothing else to say on the matter. His opinion is no more worthy than anyone else's.

Stymie said:

The difference is I try to infuse my opinions with facts.
FACT: record companies control the airwaves. That's not debateable but some of on here do their best to do so just because I said it.
I understand that there are a lot of people on here who are not in the biz, don't read the trades and don't know how the whole label game works. I try to share a little of what I know to be true along with my opinion.

BlaqueKnight said:

AlexdeParis said:

Condescension doesn't disprove what I said.

BlaqueKnight said:

No, no, no, I wasn't trying to be condescending. Ironically enough, I was laughing because your comment came across to me as exceedingly condescending. FWIW, I didn't think you were implying what I inferred, but I still thought it was amusing. I read it as though you were saying you cornered the market on facts, which is (obviously) untrue.
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BlaqueKnight said:

I understand that and I have no beef with that part of your posts. I don't care about record companies controlling th airwaves because that does not afffect the music I buy, particarly because I don't listen to very little radio.

In the grand scheme of things, none of this really matters as Robin is blowing up and those of us who have been fans from day one are happy for him. I don't get why people begrudge him that. We could be here all day talking about how people who truly deserve the fame, don't get the fame. Us Thicke fans think Robin is really deserving of it all.

He is a pussy.

Stymie said:

You also need to understand that as a fan of his, you like him more than other people but that doesn't mean others don't like him at all. There is a huge middle ground between fanboy and hater. I like "Lost Without You" and I think Robin has talent and talent leads to potential. He may eventually do an entire record I like. Its just that when people start threads like this with a question like if Robin were black would he get as much attention, its actually a question already answered before its even asked. Trying to downplay his popularity is just not possible when he's being played every hour on the radio and his video is in heavy rotation. Not listening to the radio personally does not change that. Dude is hot right now. I'm not mad at him. I'd rather hear "Lost Without You" than Akon's latest but that doesn't mean i absolutely love every little thing he does, either.

2freaky4church1 said:

You are lucky I love your ass.