Millie Vanillie is the cause for all this damn unplugged shit. All that shit started after they were found out to be fakes. Shortly after that, everybody and their mama was doing unplugged this and unplugged this trying to prove that they really could sing and play. Yeah, they can sing and play but look at what they were singing and playing.....something boring as hell. It's like they took their rock songs and turned them into country or folk....(yawn).

In 2004, when I went to the Prince concert and he did the accoustical part of the show with him sitting on a stool with nothing but a guitar, I went to the restroom and pissed out some of my beer. Then I went outside and smoked a cigarette. When I came back, he was still doing the accoustical thing. I thought I was at a damn Porter Wagner concert instead of a Prince concert. I should have hollered...."YEEEEE HAWWWWW!!!!"
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TonyVanDam said:

The Truth i dont mind, most of it is good, Crystal Ball however is one of his worst moments, a few things here and there but wow it was awful. This is where i feel Prince was at a bad production stage, he was being influenced by Kirky J who was the worst, him and Tony M together where the dynamic loss. Most of the stuff i liked from Prince in the 90's was the guitar-rock-acoustic stuff, what i thought was awful and a lowering of his standard was this rap-rb that he was doing alot of.

He ruined songs like "Dark" and gave them a shit hop sound. I loved stuff like "Hide The Bone", Cloreen Bacon Skin", and "Crucial".

My disappointment was expecting something entirely different from the album. I had heard it was old unreleased stuff that had been bootlegged over the years. I was expecting (at least on this album) some "Old Prince" (1978-1984) type stuff. Instead, it was unreleased stuff after he had changed his style in 1985. Prince just refuses to give up some more "Old Prince" under any circumstances.
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vainandy said:

I thought everyone went unplugged because of HIM:

vainandy said:

BTW, for people to say they hated Milli Vanilli for lip-syncing, they sure love some Ashlee Simpson.....and THIS woman can't sing OR lip-syncing to her own voice at all!

Maybe so, but it just seems that it all started right after Millie Vanillie was found out.

If it is because of him, I'm not surprised. People will take something that someone else had a hit with and absolutely wear it the fuck out.

vainandy said:

vainandy said:

http://www.prince.org/msg/8/221250

vainandy said:

I have tons of bootlegs on Prince and nothing is more overrated than Old Prince unreleased stuff, unless he has more stuff buried, his vault is just OK, dont get me wrong, even if he put out a 10 track disc of some of the worst stuff it would be better than any of todays so called stars.

I had never heard these songs at the time, but some great "Old Prince" songs for "Crystal Ball" would have been:

Extraloveable
Turn It Out
Irresistable Bitch (a different version that sounds like The Time)
Purple Music
Wonderful Ass
U Call Me

vainandy said:

That's exactly why we need to wake the hell up and start boycotting some of this MTV Unplugged-related bullshyt (please quote me!).

Eric did unplugged first because he love the blues as most classic rock icons do. But everyone else (IMO) seem to do it right after him to prove to the world that they have "talent" without the electric guitar or keyboard synthesizers.

I understand that the true talented artists want to perform live without lip-syncing. But please, they should never forsake the electric guitars or keyboard synths in the process. Synths alone is the main reason how Prince invented the MPLS sound.

I really don't get all the Robin Thicke love at all. He's got a good promotional/PR team behind him this go 'round is all I can say, because "Lost Without You" is mediocre at best to me. It's ok on the first few listens, then after that the holes in it just sink the ship. The lyrics are weak and unimaginative and the music is monotonous and uninspired. I dig acoustic music, so that is not the problem. My problem is that there is no texture to the song. Would it be too much to add a bridge/B-section or something to vary the groove?

It annoys me that Thicke gets incessant urban radio play here in Chicago, when much more talented artists like Van Hunt and Rahsaan Patterson languish in obscurity. Some orgers hate on Van Hunt, but his lyrics are far more creative, colorful and imaginative than what I've heard from Thicke on his first album and this single. Also, his songs are more varied and complex than Thicke's.

So I'll end this the way I started it, I just don't get all the Thicke love. To me, there's nothing extraordinary about him or his music. There are more talented artists (singer/songwriters) out there. Unfortunately they've been dropped by their labels following little or no promotion or airplay.

bellanoche said:

He still has the worst promotion I have ever seen

lastdecember said:

why do u say that? i've met her a couple times after she has performed and while she was out there on stage she was always polite and sober when i talked to her.

vainandy said:

Janfriend said:

If he had the worst promotion nobody would have never heard about him.

There have been lot of great talented artists (better than Ticke) that never get a proper promotion...

I heard that Robin has just shot a new video for the song "Can U Believe" It is supposed to be his next single.Does anyone know if this is true or just a fan rumor? I love that song!

krayzie said:

There is a new article on Robin in the new issue of Vibe.They point out that,after the failure of the Pharrell duet ("Wanna Love U Girl"),there was no guarantee that he would even have another single.The record label was frustrated and didn't know what to do with him.They took a chance and released "Lost Without U".Thank God it's a hit because if it had bombed,it's likely that they would have dropped him.Robin's success shows what can happen when record labels actually support and nurture their artists.They gotta believe in them,even if the first few singles don't go anywhere.

vainandy said:

I already told you the Thicke songs you might like. Everybody knows you weren't going to dig "Lost Without You." You might like "Would That Make U Love Me," but I think the song you'd most like is the outtake "In My Dreams."

Damn, "fuckin' for tracks" IS the saying for 2007





Quit doggin' Nikka! I hope that chile ain't on drugs

vainandy said:

vainandy you ALWAYS crack me up!!!!!

i think it's weird how some people are looking for just anything to put the guy down.

i mean, whether we like him or not, the man earned it. He's been behind the scenes for a very long time as producer who's trying to break in as an artist, and when he finally did and came out with nothing short of a flawless project he bombed so badly, and now almost 5 years later when he finally just started to break through he's being attacted like he's some random talentless act who undeservingly became famous.

Nop, he earned it and he well deserves it.

PricelessHo said:

I agree.Robin is the real deal,as far as I'm concerned.

SoulAlive said:

I hope that's true because I love that song.

PricelessHo said:

Stymie said:

same here that's one of my top five songs from the album

Stymie said:

I saw pics of him on a recent video shoot. He was in a white shirt and of course there was a girl with him.

I don’t think he’s overhyped. I just think he’s talked about a lot because his fans are so glad he’s finally getting some love and attention.

Also, rewind 8 months ago and no one was trying to hear about Robin or his fans. The threads were about 12 posts long. Now there's a thread every week, no matter how asinine.
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BlaqueKnight said:

I'm so glad someone here remembers when R. Kelly bit Aaron's style, and YES, Joss Stone did jack Nikka, who can blow her away vocally.

Robin Thicke sounds nothing like Prince 2 me... Sounds like a Maxwell copy.

JackieBlue said:

Yep. You and I were on those first threads.

I love Robin. I don't particularly care if a lot or a little people like him or not.