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Thread started 03/14/07 9:02am

LittleSmedley

Shoegazers/Dreampop

I fully expect this thread to bomb like all my other music:non prince threads...

anyone else into bands like My Bloody Valentine, Slowdive, Chapterhouse, Lush etc?

Early nineties effect pedal indie?
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Reply #1 posted 03/14/07 9:26am

jackmitz

Mmmmm....The Cocteau Twins are divine. Y'all MUST GET 'Heaven or Las Vegas'!
Occupy Alphabet Street!




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Reply #2 posted 03/14/07 9:37am

NorthernLad

check out The Lost Patrol on iTunes. Great unknown band from the NYC area. Love them.
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Reply #3 posted 03/14/07 9:38am

JDINTERACTIVE

Yes, particularly Spiritualized, My Bloody Valentine, early Verve and the Cocteu Twins.
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Reply #4 posted 03/14/07 9:42am

Anx

i can deal with the dreampop side to a certain extent (spiritualized, cocteau twins, my bloody valentine to some degree), but when it gets too indie-shoegazer-ish, i get bored. i know it's good for my digestion, but i have a low tolerance for oaty music.
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Reply #5 posted 03/14/07 9:55am

unkemptpueblo

Anx said:

i can deal with the dreampop side to a certain extent (spiritualized, cocteau twins, my bloody valentine to some degree), but when it gets too indie-shoegazer-ish, i get bored. i know it's good for my digestion, but i have a low tolerance for oaty music.





confuse
A happy face, A Thumpin Bass, For A Lovin' Race. PEACE.
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Reply #6 posted 03/14/07 9:57am

Anx

unkemptpueblo said:

Anx said:

i can deal with the dreampop side to a certain extent (spiritualized, cocteau twins, my bloody valentine to some degree), but when it gets too indie-shoegazer-ish, i get bored. i know it's good for my digestion, but i have a low tolerance for oaty music.





confuse


i'm just sayin'.
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Reply #7 posted 03/14/07 10:01am

unkemptpueblo

Anx said:

unkemptpueblo said:






confuse


i'm just sayin'.



anx...what the heck is 'oaty?' lol
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Reply #8 posted 03/14/07 10:07am

Anx

unkemptpueblo said:

Anx said:



i'm just sayin'.



anx...what the heck is 'oaty?' lol


oaty...like, really earthtoney-sounding music. crunchy and hazey and just kinda droney, with really vague lyrics. oaty.
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Reply #9 posted 03/14/07 10:11am

unkemptpueblo

Anx said:

unkemptpueblo said:




anx...what the heck is 'oaty?' lol


oaty...like, really earthtoney-sounding music. crunchy and hazey and just kinda droney, with really vague lyrics. oaty.


gotcha. just wanted to understand. see, the org can build bridges lol
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Reply #10 posted 03/14/07 10:13am

Anx

unkemptpueblo said:

Anx said:



oaty...like, really earthtoney-sounding music. crunchy and hazey and just kinda droney, with really vague lyrics. oaty.


gotcha. just wanted to understand. see, the org can build bridges lol


build and burn in one fell swoop! lol
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Reply #11 posted 03/14/07 10:23am

unkemptpueblo

Anx said:

unkemptpueblo said:



gotcha. just wanted to understand. see, the org can build bridges lol


build and burn in one fell swoop! lol



its half full, man...half full.
A happy face, A Thumpin Bass, For A Lovin' Race. PEACE.
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Reply #12 posted 03/14/07 10:26am

Anx

unkemptpueblo said:

Anx said:



build and burn in one fell swoop! lol



its half full, man...half full.


good enough for me! biggrin
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Reply #13 posted 03/14/07 10:39am

unkemptpueblo

Anx said:

unkemptpueblo said:




its half full, man...half full.


good enough for me! biggrin


me too, brother lol would jesus and mary chain be considered shoegazers?
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Reply #14 posted 03/14/07 10:42am

LittleSmedley

unkemptpueblo said:



me too, brother lol would jesus and mary chain be considered shoegazers?


not really...couldn't tell u why though

it's more feedbacky than "oatey"
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Reply #15 posted 03/14/07 10:42am

LittleSmedley

Though I like JAMC as well

"Reverance" is a big fav
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Reply #16 posted 03/14/07 10:59am

Anx

unkemptpueblo said:

Anx said:



good enough for me! biggrin


me too, brother lol would jesus and mary chain be considered shoegazers?


i think they have too much new wave debris for me to think of them as shoegazers, though i'm sure there are 'gazers who would gladly accept them. i guess i say they straddle the line of dream and oat. lol
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Reply #17 posted 03/14/07 11:35am

unkemptpueblo

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Reply #18 posted 03/14/07 11:42am

unkemptpueblo

Anx said:

unkemptpueblo said:



me too, brother lol would jesus and mary chain be considered shoegazers?


i think they have too much new wave debris for me to think of them as shoegazers, though i'm sure there are 'gazers who would gladly accept them. i guess i say they straddle the line of dream and oat. lol


which would make them 'droaty'.
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Reply #19 posted 03/14/07 11:44am

unkemptpueblo

LittleSmedley said:

Though I like JAMC as well

"Reverance" is a big fav


im still a 'psychocandy'/'automatic'guy, myself.
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Reply #20 posted 03/14/07 1:01pm

abigail05

I am a devoted Lush freak - 'Split' is probably my all time favorite record

sure wish Miki would start recording again confused
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Reply #21 posted 03/14/07 4:44pm

sextonseven

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Lush and Curve are two of my favorite bands of all time. Early Cranes had some shoegazer elements also. And check out The Heart Throbs' 'Cleopatra Grip' album from 1990. Very cool.

I don't really like when guys do the shoegazer thing although I could tolerate Ride.
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Reply #22 posted 03/14/07 4:46pm

sextonseven

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abigail05 said:

I am a devoted Lush freak - 'Split' is probably my all time favorite record

sure wish Miki would start recording again confused


Emma's band Sing-Sing is great--totally underrated.
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Reply #23 posted 03/14/07 7:02pm

thekidsgirl

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I really love Lush's Superblast, but thats all I've heard from them
If you will, so will I
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Reply #24 posted 03/14/07 7:29pm

damosuzuki

I was a pretty big fan of the sound at the time, but I can't say that I think most of it's aged very well.

There was a time when MBV's Loveless was my favourite album and something I compulsively listened to all the time. I very rarely return to it now, though parts of it still sound incredibly great to me, To Here Knows When and Sometimes in particular.

Slowdive? I don't like the debut much, but parts of Souvlaki are very good, When The Sun Hits being my favourite. However I much prefer the more country-inflected music they made after they morphed into Mojave 3. They're one of my favourite current bands, actually. I like every album they've released, and I absolutely loved their last one.

Chapterhouse had a few great singles, and Medicine and the Boo Radleys had their moments as well.

Hmmmf...who else was there?

Moose? not too good, I thought.
I never took to Ride at all, either.
I always thought the girls from Lush were terrifically sexy, but I never really got into their albums. Robin Guthrie's production on Spooky made the music seem really toothless, I thought - it had no bite whatsoever. Split was definitely better, but I stil thought most of the songs weren't too memorable.

Spacemen 3 were great, one of the finest bands of that era I'd say, but I don't think they can get slotted into this description too comfortably.
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Reply #25 posted 03/14/07 7:52pm

sextonseven

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damosuzuki said:

I was a pretty big fan of the sound at the time, but I can't say that I think most of it's aged very well.

There was a time when MBV's Loveless was my favourite album and something I compulsively listened to all the time. I very rarely return to it now, though parts of it still sound incredibly great to me, To Here Knows When and Sometimes in particular.

Slowdive? I don't like the debut much, but parts of Souvlaki are very good, When The Sun Hits being my favourite. However I much prefer the more country-inflected music they made after they morphed into Mojave 3. They're one of my favourite current bands, actually. I like every album they've released, and I absolutely loved their last one.

Chapterhouse had a few great singles, and Medicine and the Boo Radleys had their moments as well.

Hmmmf...who else was there?

Moose? not too good, I thought.
I never took to Ride at all, either.
I always thought the girls from Lush were terrifically sexy, but I never really got into their albums. Robin Guthrie's production on Spooky made the music seem really toothless, I thought - it had no bite whatsoever. Split was definitely better, but I stil thought most of the songs weren't too memorable.

Spacemen 3 were great, one of the finest bands of that era I'd say, but I don't think they can get slotted into this description too comfortably.
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You were a big fan, but no Curve?
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Reply #26 posted 03/14/07 8:02pm

damosuzuki

sextonseven said:

damosuzuki said:

I was a pretty big fan of the sound at the time, but I can't say that I think most of it's aged very well.

There was a time when MBV's Loveless was my favourite album and something I compulsively listened to all the time. I very rarely return to it now, though parts of it still sound incredibly great to me, To Here Knows When and Sometimes in particular.

Slowdive? I don't like the debut much, but parts of Souvlaki are very good, When The Sun Hits being my favourite. However I much prefer the more country-inflected music they made after they morphed into Mojave 3. They're one of my favourite current bands, actually. I like every album they've released, and I absolutely loved their last one.

Chapterhouse had a few great singles, and Medicine and the Boo Radleys had their moments as well.

Hmmmf...who else was there?

Moose? not too good, I thought.
I never took to Ride at all, either.
I always thought the girls from Lush were terrifically sexy, but I never really got into their albums. Robin Guthrie's production on Spooky made the music seem really toothless, I thought - it had no bite whatsoever. Split was definitely better, but I stil thought most of the songs weren't too memorable.

Spacemen 3 were great, one of the finest bands of that era I'd say, but I don't think they can get slotted into this description too comfortably.
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You were a big fan, but no Curve?


I forgot to mention that one, my apologies. I really like the first Curve album. I never heard anything else they recorded, however.

I also forgot to mention Loop - Gilded Eternity is an album from that era I just discovered recently that I think is just fantastic.

There are a few bands from that era that I still would like to go back and revisit. I heard a Cranes single on public radio around '90 or '91 and swore up and down on the spot that I needed to own that album, but I never got around to buying it. There was a Pale Saints single that a friend had that sounded great as well, but I never heard anything further from them.
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Reply #27 posted 03/14/07 8:12pm

damosuzuki

sextonseven said:

Cranes


oof, I missed this comment when scanning the thread earlier.

any particular recommendations?


had some shoegazer elements also. And check out The Heart Throbs' 'Cleopatra Grip' album from 1990. Very cool.



I remember hearing about this as well - that's another one I'd like to check out.
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Reply #28 posted 03/14/07 8:17pm

sextonseven

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damosuzuki said:

sextonseven said:



You were a big fan, but no Curve?


I forgot to mention that one, my apologies. I really like the first Curve album. I never heard anything else they recorded, however.

I also forgot to mention Loop - Gilded Eternity is an album from that era I just discovered recently that I think is just fantastic.

There are a few bands from that era that I still would like to go back and revisit. I heard a Cranes single on public radio around '90 or '91 and swore up and down on the spot that I needed to own that album, but I never got around to buying it. There was a Pale Saints single that a friend had that sounded great as well, but I never heard anything further from them.


Curve became more electronic as time went on. I have all their albums. Think a harder, colder version of Garbage.

Cranes were hot from 'Wings Of Joy' to 'Loved'. The former was spooky and experimental while the latter was very polished (produced by Flood), but still had the nice friction of Alison Shaw's delicate voice vs. textural guitars. The album which those LPs bookended, 'Forever' is when they really came into their own. Robert Smith remixed the track "Jewel" for it's single release.

I could go on and on. For awhile Lush, Cranes and Curve were all part of my top ten favorite artists of all time.
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Reply #29 posted 03/14/07 8:37pm

damosuzuki

sextonseven said:


Cranes were hot from 'Wings Of Joy' to 'Loved'. The former was spooky and experimental while the latter was very polished (produced by Flood), but still had the nice friction of Alison Shaw's delicate voice vs. textural guitars. The album which those LPs bookended, 'Forever' is when they really came into their own. Robert Smith remixed the track "Jewel" for it's single release.

sounds right up my alley - i'm going to try to track this down. do you know off the top of your head if their stuff is still in print?
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