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Printablejayaredee said: JasonStar said: No matter how bad Michael may or may not look in some of these pics, he will ALWAYS look better than this jackass.
 I dunno, he still looks human to me. lol, don't make me laugh. | |
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dag said: These two portrait are not the best to compare, but even not the worst. Notice also the lips. They´re the same. You can see the lack of color on the lower lip due to vitiligo. ´They aren´t really different. They look differently at times according to the way Mike "paints" them back.
how you gonna own up mj's lipstick use to vitiligo? and i ask that as someone who actually believes the guy has vitiligo. jees... Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: dag said: These two portrait are not the best to compare, but even not the worst. Notice also the lips. They´re the same. You can see the lack of color on the lower lip due to vitiligo. ´They aren´t really different. They look differently at times according to the way Mike "paints" them back.
how you gonna own up mj's lipstick use to vitiligo? and i ask that as someone who actually believes the guy has vitiligo. jees... [What Is Vitiligo? Vitiligo (vit-ill-EYE-go) is a pigmentation disorder in which melanocytes (the cells that make pigment) in the skin are destroyed. As a result, white patches appear on the skin in different parts of the body. Similar patches also appear on both the mucous membranes (tissues that line the inside of the mouth and nose), and the retina (inner layer of the eyeball). The hair that grows on areas affected by vitiligo sometimes turns white. The cause of vitiligo is not known, but doctors and researchers have several different theories. There is strong evidence that people with vitiligo inherit a group of three genes that make them susceptible to depigmentation. The most widely accepted view is that the depigmentation occurs because vitiligo is an autoimmune disease—a disease in which a person’s immune system reacts against the body’s own organs or tissues. As such, people’s bodies produce proteins called cytokines that alter their pigment-producing cells and cause these cells to die. Another theory is that melanocytes destroy themselves. Finally, some people have reported that a single event such as sunburn or emotional distress triggered vitiligo; however, these events have not been scientifically proven as causes of vitiligo.[/b][/b] http://www.niams.nih.gov/...tiligo.htm I believe these tissues inside the mouth should include lips as well, shouldn´t it? Can´t you see that line on his lower lip in the picture that I posted? You can see he´s got blotches on his lips even if you watch Bashir´s documentary - that interview from Las Vegas. I do have a picture of him from court where it is visible, but I can´t find it on my PC plus there´s something with my PC, cause I can´t open some programs and it makes it harder for me to look for pictures. I´ll post it when I find it. [Edited 3/15/07 5:14am] "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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sosgemini said: dag said: These two portrait are not the best to compare, but even not the worst. Notice also the lips. They´re the same. You can see the lack of color on the lower lip due to vitiligo. ´They aren´t really different. They look differently at times according to the way Mike "paints" them back.
how you gonna own up mj's lipstick use to vitiligo? and i ask that as someone who actually believes the guy has vitiligo. jees... i know his lips are getting pinker and pinker these days. wonder if he is using the new pink from the Barbie line by Mac Cosmetics?   I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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I don't mind MJ wearing lipstick, I just don't like his choice of colour. It's either bright pink or fire-truck red. lol. A deeper, darker red, or a pink with a more purple-lish tone to it would be good. Just lay of the bright, bold lipsticks. | |
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missfee said: sosgemini said:
how you gonna own up mj's lipstick use to vitiligo? and i ask that as someone who actually believes the guy has vitiligo. jees... i know his lips are getting pinker and pinker these days. wonder if he is using the new pink from the Barbie line by Mac Cosmetics? Yeah, sometimes he overdoes it, but when he doesn´t, he looks good. It´s mostly the damn hair and lipstick that makes him look so bad sometimes."When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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dag said: missfee said: i know his lips are getting pinker and pinker these days. wonder if he is using the new pink from the Barbie line by Mac Cosmetics? Yeah, sometimes he overdoes it, but when he doesn´t, he looks good. It´s mostly the damn hair and lipstick that makes him look so bad sometimes.His current hairstyle is actually allright at the moment. I like how it is now. It used to be way to long (last year). But now it's all good. He's got a shorter, more styled wig. | |
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DarlingDiana said: dag said: Yeah, sometimes he overdoes it, but when he doesn´t, he looks good. It´s mostly the damn hair and lipstick that makes him look so bad sometimes.His current hairstyle is actually allright at the moment. I like how it is now. It used to be way to long (last year). But now it's all good. He's got a shorter, more styled wig. It depends. Sometimes he looks great, othertimes worse, but you´ll know I love him anyway.  "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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dag said: DarlingDiana said: His current hairstyle is actually allright at the moment. I like how it is now. It used to be way to long (last year). But now it's all good. He's got a shorter, more styled wig. It depends. Sometimes he looks great, othertimes worse, but you´ll know I love him anyway. I think he looks good in this pic (from Japan).  | |
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DarlingDiana said: dag said: It depends. Sometimes he looks great, othertimes worse, but you´ll know I love him anyway. I think he looks good in this pic (from Japan). He SURE does! "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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Doesn't matter if he had 2 operations or 20 - his nose is totally fucked up looking. He ruined the look of his nose by screwing with it. Who cares how many operations - it still looks like shit. | |
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dag said: sosgemini said:
how you gonna own up mj's lipstick use to vitiligo? and i ask that as someone who actually believes the guy has vitiligo. jees... [What Is Vitiligo? Vitiligo (vit-ill-EYE-go) is a pigmentation disorder in which melanocytes (the cells that make pigment) in the skin are destroyed. As a result, white patches appear on the skin in different parts of the body. Similar patches also appear on both the mucous membranes (tissues that line the inside of the mouth and nose), and the retina (inner layer of the eyeball). The hair that grows on areas affected by vitiligo sometimes turns white. The cause of vitiligo is not known, but doctors and researchers have several different theories. There is strong evidence that people with vitiligo inherit a group of three genes that make them susceptible to depigmentation. The most widely accepted view is that the depigmentation occurs because vitiligo is an autoimmune disease—a disease in which a person’s immune system reacts against the body’s own organs or tissues. As such, people’s bodies produce proteins called cytokines that alter their pigment-producing cells and cause these cells to die. Another theory is that melanocytes destroy themselves. Finally, some people have reported that a single event such as sunburn or emotional distress triggered vitiligo; however, these events have not been scientifically proven as causes of vitiligo.[/b][/b] http://www.niams.nih.gov/...tiligo.htm I believe these tissues inside the mouth should include lips as well, shouldn´t it? Can´t you see that line on his lower lip in the picture that I posted? You can see he´s got blotches on his lips even if you watch Bashir´s documentary - that interview from Las Vegas. I do have a picture of him from court where it is visible, but I can´t find it on my PC plus there´s something with my PC, cause I can´t open some programs and it makes it harder for me to look for pictures. I´ll post it when I find it. [Edited 3/15/07 5:14am] the point of posting this? i'm not denying his skin condition... Space for sale... | |
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dag said: DarlingDiana said: I think he looks good in this pic (from Japan). He SURE does!
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[b]this is my list of things i suspect and things i know he got done
1. NOSE 2. Nic in chin 3. permanent make-up around the eye, and color(red) on his lips 4. Eye lid lift, because now his eyes are soo wide and it looks as if he cant even blink 5. facial hair transplanet 6. carving in his jaw line HE was beautiful before all this stuff... but if this makes him happy then im happy for him.. and i will always love him.. |
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JackieBlue said: People that look at MJ and say he hasn't changed remind me of people who say, "I don't see color."
 I have always HATED it when people say that. There is NOTHING wrong with acknowledging color or color differences. The problem comes when you attach a value to it. Sorry, just had to add that.perfection is a fallacy of the imagination... | |
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DarlingDiana said: dag said: Yeah, sometimes he overdoes it, but when he doesn´t, he looks good. It´s mostly the damn hair and lipstick that makes him look so bad sometimes.His current hairstyle is actually allright at the moment. I like how it is now. It used to be way to long (last year). But now it's all good. He's got a shorter, more styled wig. That ain't no weave. That's a straight up weave! "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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This is one of the latest photos of Michael Jackson (taken days ago). It shows his face more clearly than any photo I've seen recently. In this photo you can really see what recent changes he has made. His nose is more wider and rounded than a few years ago. His nose is pretty much the same as it was in the 80s (late 80s, Bad era).
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DarlingDiana said: I don't mind MJ wearing lipstick, I just don't like his choice of colour. It's either bright pink or fire-truck red. lol. A deeper, darker red, or a pink with a more purple-lish tone to it would be good. Just lay of the bright, bold lipsticks.
 this is surreal | |
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SoulAlive said: DarlingDiana said: I don't mind MJ wearing lipstick, I just don't like his choice of colour. It's either bright pink or fire-truck red. lol. A deeper, darker red, or a pink with a more purple-lish tone to it would be good. Just lay of the bright, bold lipsticks.
this is surrealAGREED !!! | |
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prettymansson said: SoulAlive said: this is surrealAGREED !!! I just can't see how ANYBODY could approve of him wearing lip-stick.That's ludicrous. | |
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SoulAlive said: prettymansson said: AGREED !!! I just can't see how ANYBODY could approve of him wearing lip-stick.That's ludicrous. It aint the lipstick with me.Its the whole deal.....Nobody could be a bigger MJ fan than i was back in the day...I used to do talent shows doing my billie jean routine..with the hat, the glove..the hair..the socks..the whole 9 !!!! and I was a HUGE j5 fan since the 70's but after BAD..I pretty much saw all i needed to see of the MJ show...his style..his skin...his transformation into a white woman/man..his lack of artistic growth..his same ol moves...his chasing hits minus quality material like he had with quincy producing and people like rod temperton.and last BUT NOT LEAST.the whole child sex thing...Its too over the top for me..All i can do when i read these fans comments/opinions is think that they will grow up and look at the man for who he really has become one day... :-He's Sad....Instead of making some good music.and trying to get credibility that way..he;s organizing fan get togethers where they PAY him to shake his hand..... WHATEVER.....  | |
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prettymansson said: SoulAlive said: I just can't see how ANYBODY could approve of him wearing lip-stick.That's ludicrous. It aint the lipstick with me.Its the whole deal.....Nobody could be a bigger MJ fan than i was back in the day...I used to do talent shows doing my billie jean routine..with the hat, the glove..the hair..the socks..the whole 9 !!!! and I was a HUGE j5 fan since the 70's but after BAD..I pretty much saw all i needed to see of the MJ show...his style..his skin...his transformation into a white woman/man..his lack of artistic growth..his same ol moves...his chasing hits minus quality material like he had with quincy producing and people like rod temperton.and last BUT NOT LEAST.the whole child sex thing...Its too over the top for me..All i can do when i read these fans comments/opinions is think that they will grow up and look at the man for who he really has become one day... :-He's Sad....Instead of making some good music.and trying to get credibility that way..he;s organizing fan get togethers where they PAY him to shake his hand..... WHATEVER..... This reminds me of when I heard a hardcore fan say that "being a Michael Jackson fan is too high maintenance." Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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prettymansson said: It aint the lipstick with me.Its the whole deal.....Nobody could be a bigger MJ fan than i was back in the day...I used to do talent shows doing my billie jean routine..with the hat, the glove..the hair..the socks..the whole 9 !!!! and I was a HUGE j5 fan since the 70's but after BAD..I pretty much saw all i needed to see of the MJ show...his style..his skin...his transformation into a white woman/man..his lack of artistic growth..his same ol moves...his chasing hits minus quality material like he had with quincy producing and people like rod temperton.and last BUT NOT LEAST.the whole child sex thing...Its too over the top for me..All i can do when i read these fans comments/opinions is think that they will grow up and look at the man for who he really has become one day... :-He's Sad....Instead of making some good music.and trying to get credibility that way..he;s organizing fan get togethers where they PAY him to shake his hand.....
WHATEVER..... The best post in this thread. Like you, I grew up on the J5, but everything changed after BAD. |
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uPtoWnNY said: prettymansson said: It aint the lipstick with me.Its the whole deal.....Nobody could be a bigger MJ fan than i was back in the day...I used to do talent shows doing my billie jean routine..with the hat, the glove..the hair..the socks..the whole 9 !!!! and I was a HUGE j5 fan since the 70's but after BAD..I pretty much saw all i needed to see of the MJ show...his style..his skin...his transformation into a white woman/man..his lack of artistic growth..his same ol moves...his chasing hits minus quality material like he had with quincy producing and people like rod temperton.and last BUT NOT LEAST.the whole child sex thing...Its too over the top for me..All i can do when i read these fans comments/opinions is think that they will grow up and look at the man for who he really has become one day... :-He's Sad....Instead of making some good music.and trying to get credibility that way..he;s organizing fan get togethers where they PAY him to shake his hand.....
WHATEVER..... The best post in this thread. Like you, I grew up on the J5, but everything changed after BAD. I held on a while longer. Through most of Dangerous actually but it was faltering heavily by HIStory but a combination of the second allegations and the whole Invincible project was just too much. How much can one fan take? With Janet it was more abrupt. I was the biggest fan ever on Saturday, woke up on Sunday and it was over. Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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JasonStar said: With me, at times it is like I view Michael as being 3 different person, and at times, it is hard to believe they are all the same person. Not because of the apperance as much, as just all the stuff. I think the apperance just makes it even tougher to "fully realize" it is the same person.
Confused? Here is what I mean.. It is hard for me at times to grasp.. The same kid who was in the Jackson 5 singing 
was The same guy who was the star of the music video, "You Rock My World" in 2001. 
Another example would be It is hard for me at times to grasp... The same guy who performed on the Motown 25 and rocked the house with "Billie Jean." 
was The same guy who performed on the HIStory tour.  Maybe...this is not same person....Real Michael is somewhere in space... | |
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sosgemini said: this is gonna be a fun thread.
   I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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uPtoWnNY said: Krytonite said:  THAT'S the Michael I remember. HELLO!!!! 
I love how insane his fans are, it's downright entertaining. Where'd Darling Diana go - to release some doves or what?
I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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sosgemini said: dag said: [What Is Vitiligo? Vitiligo (vit-ill-EYE-go) is a pigmentation disorder in which melanocytes (the cells that make pigment) in the skin are destroyed. As a result, white patches appear on the skin in different parts of the body. Similar patches also appear on both the mucous membranes (tissues that line the inside of the mouth and nose), and the retina (inner layer of the eyeball). The hair that grows on areas affected by vitiligo sometimes turns white. The cause of vitiligo is not known, but doctors and researchers have several different theories. There is strong evidence that people with vitiligo inherit a group of three genes that make them susceptible to depigmentation. The most widely accepted view is that the depigmentation occurs because vitiligo is an autoimmune disease—a disease in which a person’s immune system reacts against the body’s own organs or tissues. As such, people’s bodies produce proteins called cytokines that alter their pigment-producing cells and cause these cells to die. Another theory is that melanocytes destroy themselves. Finally, some people have reported that a single event such as sunburn or emotional distress triggered vitiligo; however, these events have not been scientifically proven as causes of vitiligo.[/b][/b] http://www.niams.nih.gov/...tiligo.htm I believe these tissues inside the mouth should include lips as well, shouldn´t it? Can´t you see that line on his lower lip in the picture that I posted? You can see he´s got blotches on his lips even if you watch Bashir´s documentary - that interview from Las Vegas. I do have a picture of him from court where it is visible, but I can´t find it on my PC plus there´s something with my PC, cause I can´t open some programs and it makes it harder for me to look for pictures. I´ll post it when I find it. [Edited 3/15/07 5:14am] the point of posting this? i'm not denying his skin condition... you asked me about why I think his lipstick is related to vitligo. I ´ve tried to explain. The highlighted sentence is the relevant one. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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uPtoWnNY said: prettymansson said: It aint the lipstick with me.Its the whole deal.....Nobody could be a bigger MJ fan than i was back in the day...I used to do talent shows doing my billie jean routine..with the hat, the glove..the hair..the socks..the whole 9 !!!! and I was a HUGE j5 fan since the 70's but after BAD..I pretty much saw all i needed to see of the MJ show...his style..his skin...his transformation into a white woman/man..his lack of artistic growth..his same ol moves...his chasing hits minus quality material like he had with quincy producing and people like rod temperton.and last BUT NOT LEAST.the whole child sex thing...Its too over the top for me..All i can do when i read these fans comments/opinions is think that they will grow up and look at the man for who he really has become one day... :-He's Sad....Instead of making some good music.and trying to get credibility that way..he;s organizing fan get togethers where they PAY him to shake his hand.....
WHATEVER..... The best post in this thread. Like you, I grew up on the J5, but everything changed after BAD. Indeed. I grew up with J5 cartoons, checking out the Jackson family spreads in the old, giant-sized Ebony mags and thinking how cool it all was. Then in the 80s, MJ started showing up to awards shows with Emmanuel Lewis on his lap and getting nose jobs. Then Bad dropped and I couldn't believe how he'd butchered his face and lightened his skin. It's been a slippery slope, a fast decline, since then. [Edited 3/17/07 7:59am] | |
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ThreadBare said: It's been a slippery slope, a fast decline, since then.
"Swift and sudden fall from grace" | |
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