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Thread started 03/10/07 9:24am

thedribbler

we r the world vs. do they know it's christmas.

What d'ya say to that?


I have 2 go for the brits, here. They have an inferior song but the feel is a thousand times better.

The Ami song is full of extraordinary people, with almost everyone over-singing their part, trying to hit every possible note, making the most of it.
God bless 'em. Kenny Rogers kills me!
Making hay while the sun shines. Milkin' that publicity cow!

Respect 2 Geldoff 4 starting something good, which is still going to this day!
Respect 2 michael 4 this tune, and I love the sequel "Heal the the world". Beautiful melodies!

Dylan is very funny on that record.
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Reply #1 posted 03/10/07 9:45am

CinisterCee

vs. Tears Are Not Enough! canada

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Reply #2 posted 03/10/07 10:19am

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Both songs r as corny as hell! nod
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Reply #3 posted 03/10/07 12:05pm

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vs. Tears Are Not Enough! canada




Oh, great...now I'm going to have dan hill and alfie zappacosta stuck in my head all day.


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Reply #4 posted 03/10/07 4:52pm

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as much as i love do they know it's christmas. we are the world is better song, Michael j. totally outsings everyone else on that track (except for bruce springsteen of course)
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Reply #5 posted 03/10/07 8:31pm

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Do They Know It's Christmas, by far. Even though I do love Cyndi Lauper and Bruce Springsteen's parts in We Are the World, there isn't much else I like about the song.
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Reply #6 posted 03/10/07 8:44pm

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Do They Know it's Christmas....I'll still get a tiny bit teary-eyed when I hear that song....
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Reply #7 posted 03/10/07 10:29pm

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Both songs r as corny as hell! nod


Co-sign..
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Reply #8 posted 03/10/07 11:59pm

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Axchi696 said:

Do They Know It's Christmas, by far. Even though I do love Cyndi Lauper and Bruce Springsteen's parts in We Are the World, there isn't much else I like about the song.


lol Everytime I think of "We Are The World". the only parts that jump into my mind are Cyndi's and Bruce's. I can even picture them singing their parts in the video. Cyndi: "Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, Whooooa" falloff Sorry, I know it's serious time now. I like "We Are The World" better.
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Reply #9 posted 03/11/07 5:37am

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As a song, the original Do They Know It's Christmas beats We Are The World on all counts, but all the re-workings have gone to show just how much Trevor Horn's fantastic production had to do with it.
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Reply #10 posted 03/11/07 6:08am

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Thanks a lot. Now both those songs are going to be stuck in my head all day. neutral

Now I have to go find something else to listen to to drive these damn earworms out. mad mad
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Axchi696 said:

Do They Know It's Christmas, by far. Even though I do love Cyndi Lauper and Bruce Springsteen's parts in We Are the World, there isn't much else I like about the song.

Really? I can't even comprehend not liking that song. I always thought the soloist transitions and duet partners were interesting, inspired, and well executed:

Lionel Richie and Stevie Wonder, giving way to Paul Simon (who famously thanked Stevie for taking a year off so he could win the Grammy for Album of the Year) and Kenny Rogers, James Ingram getting a brief solo, Tina Turner and Billy Joel, then taking it up for Michael Jackson and Diana Ross... that's just in the first verse and chorus!

Dionne Warwick and Willie Nelson? Who would've picked that pair? How can you not like the over-the-top Steve Perry part? Who would ever imagine that the bridge going from MJ to Huey Lewis to Cyndi Lauper would work? That shit is magic!

All those great singers and they give Bob Dylan one of the longest solos? And it works?! And then they bring in Ray Charles for the ad libs! Then, when you think it can't get any better, they pull the who-in-the-hell-thought-of-that Stevie Wonder/Bruce Springsteen duet! See what they did there? Dylan/Charles to Springsteen/Wonder -- that's magnificent. I used to seriously think Bruce and Stevie should work together again.

I didn't even mention Al Jarreau, Daryl Hall, and Kenny Loggins. I can only think of a few things bad about that song: (1) Smokey wasn't given a solo, (2) Aretha and Gladys weren't there, and (3) Marvin couldn't be a part of it.
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Reply #12 posted 03/11/07 7:48am

thedribbler

AlexdeParis said:

Axchi696 said:

Do They Know It's Christmas, by far. Even though I do love Cyndi Lauper and Bruce Springsteen's parts in We Are the World, there isn't much else I like about the song.

Really? I can't even comprehend not liking that song. I always thought the soloist transitions and duet partners were interesting, inspired, and well executed:

Lionel Richie and Stevie Wonder, giving way to Paul Simon (who famously thanked Stevie for taking a year off so he could win the Grammy for Album of the Year) and Kenny Rogers, James Ingram getting a brief solo, Tina Turner and Billy Joel, then taking it up for Michael Jackson and Diana Ross... that's just in the first verse and chorus!

Dionne Warwick and Willie Nelson? Who would've picked that pair? How can you not like the over-the-top Steve Perry part? Who would ever imagine that the bridge going from MJ to Huey Lewis to Cyndi Lauper would work? That shit is magic!

All those great singers and they give Bob Dylan one of the longest solos? And it works?! And then they bring in Ray Charles for the ad libs! Then, when you think it can't get any better, they pull the who-in-the-hell-thought-of-that Stevie Wonder/Bruce Springsteen duet! See what they did there? Dylan/Charles to Springsteen/Wonder -- that's magnificent. I used to seriously think Bruce and Stevie should work together again.

I didn't even mention Al Jarreau, Daryl Hall, and Kenny Loggins. I can only think of a few things bad about that song: (1) Smokey wasn't given a solo, (2) Aretha and Gladys weren't there, and (3) Marvin couldn't be a part of it.

I think you are more suprised than any one that this mixing of colours took place and even worked!
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Reply #13 posted 03/11/07 7:54am

damosuzuki

AlexdeParis said:

Axchi696 said:

Do They Know It's Christmas, by far. Even though I do love Cyndi Lauper and Bruce Springsteen's parts in We Are the World, there isn't much else I like about the song.

Really? I can't even comprehend not liking that song. I always thought the soloist transitions and duet partners were interesting, inspired, and well executed:

Lionel Richie and Stevie Wonder, giving way to Paul Simon (who famously thanked Stevie for taking a year off so he could win the Grammy for Album of the Year) and Kenny Rogers, James Ingram getting a brief solo, Tina Turner and Billy Joel, then taking it up for Michael Jackson and Diana Ross... that's just in the first verse and chorus!

Dionne Warwick and Willie Nelson? Who would've picked that pair? How can you not like the over-the-top Steve Perry part? Who would ever imagine that the bridge going from MJ to Huey Lewis to Cyndi Lauper would work? That shit is magic!

All those great singers and they give Bob Dylan one of the longest solos? And it works?! And then they bring in Ray Charles for the ad libs! Then, when you think it can't get any better, they pull the who-in-the-hell-thought-of-that Stevie Wonder/Bruce Springsteen duet! See what they did there? Dylan/Charles to Springsteen/Wonder -- that's magnificent. I used to seriously think Bruce and Stevie should work together again.

I didn't even mention Al Jarreau, Daryl Hall, and Kenny Loggins. I can only think of a few things bad about that song: (1) Smokey wasn't given a solo, (2) Aretha and Gladys weren't there, and (3) Marvin couldn't be a part of it.


Thank you. You've said pretty much what I wanted to say, and you've said it better than I would have.

I think We Are The World is a pretty good to great song that's elevated by some truly great and interesting performances. One can quibble with certain elements of course (I wouldn't have complained if Kenny Rogers and Huey Lewis' invitations got lost in the mail, for example), but if you leave your knowingly-post-modern irony and cynicism at the door and really listen to it, you'll find an excellent and genuinely moving song.
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thedribbler said:

AlexdeParis said:


Really? I can't even comprehend not liking that song. I always thought the soloist transitions and duet partners were interesting, inspired, and well executed:

Lionel Richie and Stevie Wonder, giving way to Paul Simon (who famously thanked Stevie for taking a year off so he could win the Grammy for Album of the Year) and Kenny Rogers, James Ingram getting a brief solo, Tina Turner and Billy Joel, then taking it up for Michael Jackson and Diana Ross... that's just in the first verse and chorus!

Dionne Warwick and Willie Nelson? Who would've picked that pair? How can you not like the over-the-top Steve Perry part? Who would ever imagine that the bridge going from MJ to Huey Lewis to Cyndi Lauper would work? That shit is magic!

All those great singers and they give Bob Dylan one of the longest solos? And it works?! And then they bring in Ray Charles for the ad libs! Then, when you think it can't get any better, they pull the who-in-the-hell-thought-of-that Stevie Wonder/Bruce Springsteen duet! See what they did there? Dylan/Charles to Springsteen/Wonder -- that's magnificent. I used to seriously think Bruce and Stevie should work together again.

I didn't even mention Al Jarreau, Daryl Hall, and Kenny Loggins. I can only think of a few things bad about that song: (1) Smokey wasn't given a solo, (2) Aretha and Gladys weren't there, and (3) Marvin couldn't be a part of it.

I think you are more suprised than any one that this mixing of colours took place and even worked!

confused Come again? I apologize if I'm misunderstanding, but you're completely misreading my response. It's not the mixing of colors that is surprising; it's the mixing of styles. For instance, Dionne Warwick seems to be a better match on paper with someone like Kenny Loggins or Al Jarreau. Tina Turner and Billy Joel makes a certain amount of sense, but I would've expected Tina and, say, Daryl Hall. Are you implying that Wonder and Springsteen doing a duet was some kind of no-brainer before this song? Really? Wonder/McCartney seemed inevitable, Wonder/Bowie would've been interesting, but I would've never put Stevie and the Boss together.
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Reply #15 posted 03/11/07 8:23am

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damosuzuki said:[quote]

AlexdeParis said:

Thank you. You've said pretty much what I wanted to say, and you've said it better than I would have.

Thanks!

I think We Are The World is a pretty good to great song that's elevated by some truly great and interesting performances. One can quibble with certain elements of course (I wouldn't have complained if Kenny Rogers and Huey Lewis' invitations got lost in the mail, for example), but if you leave your knowingly-post-modern irony and cynicism at the door and really listen to it, you'll find an excellent and genuinely moving song.

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Reply #16 posted 03/11/07 12:29pm

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DO They Know It's Christmas by far. All the singers just melded well together and sang their parts perfectly. It's a far more tolerable song too. WATW is just a hot corny mess.
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Reply #17 posted 03/11/07 9:06pm

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AlexdeParis said:

Axchi696 said:

Do They Know It's Christmas, by far. Even though I do love Cyndi Lauper and Bruce Springsteen's parts in We Are the World, there isn't much else I like about the song.

Really? I can't even comprehend not liking that song. I always thought the soloist transitions and duet partners were interesting, inspired, and well executed:

Lionel Richie and Stevie Wonder, giving way to Paul Simon (who famously thanked Stevie for taking a year off so he could win the Grammy for Album of the Year) and Kenny Rogers, James Ingram getting a brief solo, Tina Turner and Billy Joel, then taking it up for Michael Jackson and Diana Ross... that's just in the first verse and chorus!

Dionne Warwick and Willie Nelson? Who would've picked that pair? How can you not like the over-the-top Steve Perry part? Who would ever imagine that the bridge going from MJ to Huey Lewis to Cyndi Lauper would work? That shit is magic!

All those great singers and they give Bob Dylan one of the longest solos? And it works?! And then they bring in Ray Charles for the ad libs! Then, when you think it can't get any better, they pull the who-in-the-hell-thought-of-that Stevie Wonder/Bruce Springsteen duet! See what they did there? Dylan/Charles to Springsteen/Wonder -- that's magnificent. I used to seriously think Bruce and Stevie should work together again.

I didn't even mention Al Jarreau, Daryl Hall, and Kenny Loggins. I can only think of a few things bad about that song: (1) Smokey wasn't given a solo, (2) Aretha and Gladys weren't there, and (3) Marvin couldn't be a part of it.


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Reply #18 posted 03/12/07 11:11am

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DO They Know It's Christmas by far. All the singers just melded well together and sang their parts perfectly. It's a far more tolerable song too. WATW is just a hot corny mess.
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Reply #19 posted 03/12/07 1:29pm

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CinisterCee said:

vs. Tears Are Not Enough! canada




VS Hear N Aid lol


back on topic.. Do they Know...by a long shot, although We Are the World has waaay funnier cameos.

just remembered Bob Dylan saying "we're savin our own lives" being funny as shit edit.
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They're both terrible. I used to like We Are The World better, but now I guess I prefer Band Aid. Do they know it's christmas is less overblown & cheesy. Still We Are the World does have Bruce & Stevie singing together, somthing we'll never hear again.

But it's a strange line, though: "do they know it's Christmastime at all?" It implies that that is somehow important to starving people. I really don't know what to make of it.
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unkemptpueblo said:

CinisterCee said:

vs. Tears Are Not Enough! canada




VS Hear N Aid lol


back on topic.. Do they Know...by a long shot, although We Are the World has waaay funnier cameos.

just remembered Bob Dylan saying "we're savin our own lives" being funny as shit edit.
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That was the first time I or my siblings had ever heard him sing. I could not believe it. We laughed & laughed. Now it doesn't sound weird to me.
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NDRU said:

They're both terrible. I used to like We Are The World better, but now I guess I prefer Band Aid. Do they know it's christmas is less overblown & cheesy. Still We Are the World does have Bruce & Stevie singing together, somthing we'll never hear again.

But it's a strange line, though: "do they know it's Christmastime at all?" It implies that that is somehow important to starving people. I really don't know what to make of it.

That's exactly what it means. Aside from the song being released at Christmas, it's that the starving people might not have general seasons of celebration .
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Ellie said:

NDRU said:

They're both terrible. I used to like We Are The World better, but now I guess I prefer Band Aid. Do they know it's christmas is less overblown & cheesy. Still We Are the World does have Bruce & Stevie singing together, somthing we'll never hear again.

But it's a strange line, though: "do they know it's Christmastime at all?" It implies that that is somehow important to starving people. I really don't know what to make of it.

That's exactly what it means. Aside from the song being released at Christmas, it's that the starving people might not have general seasons of celebration .


I hear you, but it kind of sounds to me like they're saying that that is the greatest tragedy of all, not knowing it's Christmas (and should they even be celebrating Christmas?).

I'm not really knocking it, it just always sounded a wee bit odd to me.
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I suppose it could be interpreted either way - as being the "greatest tragedy" as you put it, or that the season is something the rich western world makes such a big deal out of (or any religious festival for that matter, it doesn't have to be Christian) while there are people that don't even know about such luxuries.

Anyway, I doubt it's supposed to be analysed lol Here's Channel 4's comedic take on George Michael's participation in the Band Aid recording biggrin
http://www.zippyvideos.co...r_stories/
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Ellie said:

I suppose it could be interpreted either way - as being the "greatest tragedy" as you put it, or that the season is something the rich western world makes such a big deal out of (or any religious festival for that matter, it doesn't have to be Christian) while there are people that don't even know about such luxuries.

Anyway, I doubt it's supposed to be analysed lol Here's Channel 4's comedic take on George Michael's participation in the Band Aid recording biggrin
http://www.zippyvideos.co...r_stories/


I'm pretty sure they meant it just how you're suggesting--"there are people that don't even know about such luxuries." nod

I had to watch that without sound, but it was still pretty funny, esp. Bono lol
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