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Stevie Wonder's Shelved Album Fulfillingness Second Finale I was reading the new book on Stevie's 1976 album, Songs In The Key of Life and it's quite interesting about how the author stated that right after he released Fulfillingness First Finale back in 1974, he was working on the sequel to that album entitled, Fulfillingness Second Finale. It was eventually shelved for whatever reason, I don't know why and Stevie then worked on Songs In The Key Of Life. Two of the album's tracks, "The Future" and "Livin' Off the Love of the Land" are only songs that most people have heard from that shelved album. Does anyone have any more information for this album? Check me out and add me on:
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wow i had no idea he was planning a sequel. FFF is my favorite album of his. I haven't heard "The Future". How does that sound? wwww.myspace.com/chessvalentine | |
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I haven't heard any of those other ones. My guess is this LP is incomplete, or contained alot of SITKOL material anyway. (sounds familiar) | |
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Hell,,,I've never even heard his B-sides, let alone his outtake.
Though, I heard that "Overjoyed" and "I just called to say I love you" were from the Songs Of The Key sessions but were rerecorded for their latter projects. | |
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It was an incomplete project and interestingly enough, the song that was played while the end credits were rolling in Spike Lee's 1991 film, Jungle Fever entitled "Feeding Off The Love Of The Land" was actually recorded in 1974 for the shelved project. It sounds beautiful and I wonder why he didn't include it on SITKOL because it would've been a classic. [Edited 3/3/07 10:29am] Check me out and add me on:
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I can understand why Stevie doesn't want some of his unfinished stuff released. OTOH, think of all that great music he's hoarding! Stop being stingy, Stevie! At this point, there's absolutely nothing that could hurt your legacy. "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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AlexdeParis said: I can understand why Stevie doesn't want some of his unfinished stuff released. OTOH, think of all that great music he's hoarding! Stop being stingy, Stevie! At this point, there's absolutely nothing that could hurt your legacy.
Replace Stevie's name with Prince's and it would be just as perfect. Amazing how the geniuses are always holding some possibly incredible stuff back from the general public. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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That is something that there was a sequel for FFF. Hell I need to get FFF on CD. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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purplecam said: AlexdeParis said: I can understand why Stevie doesn't want some of his unfinished stuff released. OTOH, think of all that great music he's hoarding! Stop being stingy, Stevie! At this point, there's absolutely nothing that could hurt your legacy.
Replace Stevie's name with Prince's and it would be just as perfect. Amazing how the geniuses are always holding some possibly incredible stuff back from the general public. Its not the public he worry about, its his royalties. I don't blame Stevie for being uptight with his shit,,,remember who his boss was? That man's company wasn't no picnic. From the way he saw his Motown colleagues getting fucked left & right, seems that he got paranoid about his stuff. I read once in an article that Stevie asked in his well that ALL of his shelved music should be destroyed when he dies. Part of me thinks that he's over-content with what he released already and part of me thinks that Stevie is just over-possessive with his shit. [Edited 3/3/07 15:11pm] | |
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silverchild said: I was reading the new book on Stevie's 1976 album, Songs In The Key of Life and it's quite interesting about how the author stated that right after he released Fulfillingness First Finale back in 1974, he was working on the sequel to that album entitled, Fulfillingness Second Finale. It was eventually shelved for whatever reason, I don't know why and Stevie then worked on Songs In The Key Of Life. Two of the album's tracks, "The Future" and "Livin' Off the Love of the Land" are only songs that most people have heard from that shelved album. Does anyone have any more information for this album?
Could you please tell me the name and the author of this book? | |
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manray10 said: silverchild said: I was reading the new book on Stevie's 1976 album, Songs In The Key of Life and it's quite interesting about how the author stated that right after he released Fulfillingness First Finale back in 1974, he was working on the sequel to that album entitled, Fulfillingness Second Finale. It was eventually shelved for whatever reason, I don't know why and Stevie then worked on Songs In The Key Of Life. Two of the album's tracks, "The Future" and "Livin' Off the Love of the Land" are only songs that most people have heard from that shelved album. Does anyone have any more information for this album?
Could you please tell me the name and the author of this book? It's part of the 331/3 book series and it was written by Zeth Lundy. I am currently reading the book and it's pretty good, but the author is very judgmental. You can get it here: http://www.amazon.com/Son...41&sr=8-11 Check me out and add me on:
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Harlepolis said: purplecam said: Replace Stevie's name with Prince's and it would be just as perfect. Amazing how the geniuses are always holding some possibly incredible stuff back from the general public. Its not the public he worry about, its his royalties. I don't blame Stevie for being uptight with his shit,,,remember who his boss was? That man's company wasn't no picnic. From the way he saw his Motown colleagues getting fucked left & right, seems that he got paranoid about his stuff. I read once in an article that Stevie asked in his well that ALL of his shelved music should be destroyed when he dies. Part of me thinks that he's over-content with what he released already and part of me thinks that Stevie is just over-possessive with his shit. [Edited 3/3/07 15:11pm] Damn, that is pretty messed up. I wish he would consider it "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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Harlepolis said: purplecam said: Replace Stevie's name with Prince's and it would be just as perfect. Amazing how the geniuses are always holding some possibly incredible stuff back from the general public. Its not the public he worry about, its his royalties. Trust me when I say that Stevie is not worried about his royalties. When he turned 21, he renegotiated his deal with Motown and gained control of his publishing through his Black Bull Publishing Company. At that time, it was also a retroactive deal that gave him an increased royalty rate on everything he had and would release. I don't blame Stevie for being uptight with his shit,,,remember who his boss was? That man's company wasn't no picnic. From the way he saw his Motown colleagues getting fucked left & right, seems that he got paranoid about his stuff. That's why his new deal was so sweet. I read once in an article that Stevie asked in his well that ALL of his shelved music should be destroyed when he dies. Part of me thinks that he's over-content with what he released already and part of me thinks that Stevie is just over-possessive with his shit. [Edited 3/3/07 15:11pm] Stevie is a perfectionist. That's why he takes a long time to release albums. He has well over 5,000 unreleased songs in his library. He's earned the right to control what happens to his songs. | |
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WOWZER!!! 
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I was watching a documentary about "Songs In The Key Of Life" and they were discussing "I Wish". All the musicians who played on "I Wish" got together to talk about it. The one of them said "I Wish is probably the best Stevie Wonder song.... that's been released. Because we all know that he's got a lot of good material that he never released" and the other guys were like "yeah, yeah, true that". They make it sound like he's got unreleased songs that are better than anything he's ever released. | |
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DarlingDiana said: I was watching a documentary about "Songs In The Key Of Life" and they were discussing "I Wish". All the musicians who played on "I Wish" got together to talk about it. The one of them said "I Wish is probably the best Stevie Wonder song.... that's been released. Because we all know that he's got a lot of good material that he never released" and the other guys were like "yeah, yeah, true that". They make it sound like he's got unreleased songs that are better than anything he's ever released.
Yeah you're right, I think their exact words were "I wish has got to be one of the best Stevie songs, that has come out, cuz we all know there's some stuff in the can" "yeah yeah, definitely" | |
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manray10 said: Harlepolis said: Its not the public he worry about, its his royalties. Trust me when I say that Stevie is not worried about his royalties. When he turned 21, he renegotiated his deal with Motown and gained control of his publishing through his Black Bull Publishing Company. At that time, it was also a retroactive deal that gave him an increased royalty rate on everything he had and would release. I don't blame Stevie for being uptight with his shit,,,remember who his boss was? That man's company wasn't no picnic. From the way he saw his Motown colleagues getting fucked left & right, seems that he got paranoid about his stuff. That's why his new deal was so sweet. I read once in an article that Stevie asked in his well that ALL of his shelved music should be destroyed when he dies. Part of me thinks that he's over-content with what he released already and part of me thinks that Stevie is just over-possessive with his shit. [Edited 3/3/07 15:11pm] Stevie is a perfectionist. That's why he takes a long time to release albums. He has well over 5,000 unreleased songs in his library. He's earned the right to control what happens to his songs. Well this kinda ties in to the whole "George Lucas" syndrome. Does an artist really have the right to change or destroy their own work once they've created it, or as the south park kids said (heheh), does what an artist creates belong to society once they've made it? I reallllly hope Stevie isn't serious about destroying his unreleased music when he dies. If the insinuations of the Wonderlove guys mean anytthing, and if he really does have thousands of songs, undoubtedly there's tons of gems as good or even better than the stuff he's put out. | |
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jacktheimprovident said: manray10 said: Stevie is a perfectionist. That's why he takes a long time to release albums. He has well over 5,000 unreleased songs in his library. He's earned the right to control what happens to his songs. Well this kinda ties in to the whole "George Lucas" syndrome. Does an artist really have the right to change or destroy their own work once they've created it, or as the south park kids said (heheh), does what an artist creates belong to society once they've made it? I reallllly hope Stevie isn't serious about destroying his unreleased music when he dies. If the insinuations of the Wonderlove guys mean anytthing, and if he really does have thousands of songs, undoubtedly there's tons of gems as good or even better than the stuff he's put out. IMO George Lucas had every right to clean up the Star Wars movies using technology. That's no different from music remastering. What I do NOT agree with is changing the movies (adding stuff). He should've left those as bonus features instead of adding them back into the movies. What Steven Spielberg did in E.T. was much more subtle (took out guns, etc). That's was OK by me. I'd hate to see Stevie's music destroyed - I really would - but I would almost prefer it to a situation like 2Pac where they're releasing all these new albums after they die. |
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DarlingDiana said: I was watching a documentary about "Songs In The Key Of Life" and they were discussing "I Wish". All the musicians who played on "I Wish" got together to talk about it. The one of them said "I Wish is probably the best Stevie Wonder song.... that's been released. Because we all know that he's got a lot of good material that he never released" and the other guys were like "yeah, yeah, true that". They make it sound like he's got unreleased songs that are better than anything he's ever released.
To some degree, I believe that he has unreleased recordings that are better than some of his material that he has released. I would to read more about Stevie's vault of previously unreleased recordings. I know it's some great material in there. | |
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silverchild said: I was reading the new book on Stevie's 1976 album, Songs In The Key of Life and it's quite interesting about how the author stated that right after he released Fulfillingness First Finale back in 1974, he was working on the sequel to that album entitled, Fulfillingness Second Finale. It was eventually shelved for whatever reason, I don't know why and Stevie then worked on Songs In The Key Of Life. Two of the album's tracks, "The Future" and "Livin' Off the Love of the Land" are only songs that most people have heard from that shelved album. Does anyone have any more information for this album?
I just started a new thread on Stevie's unreleased songs  Let's compile a possible tracklist for 'Fullfillingness Second Finale' using songs that Stevie recorded in 1974/75 (assuming these songs were for that project):
Stevie Wonder 'Fullfillingness' Second Finale' (cancelled release date:1975) The Future Sky Blue Afternoon I've Been Away Too Long Yea Ya Do If Your Mama Could See You Now Livin' Off The Love Of The Land No News Is Good News Would I Live For You,Would I Die For You Lady Prima | |
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also, Stevie Wonder and Michael Jackson made an album together in 1974 called "Butercup" (or something like that). It was never released. | |
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DarlingDiana said: also, Stevie Wonder and Michael Jackson made an album together in 1974 called "Butercup" (or something like that). It was never released.
It was a Michael Jackson solo album,recorded in 1973.The song "Buttercup" was planned as the first single.For some reason,the album was never released. | |
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I love this thread. "Todo está bien chévere" Stevie | |
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SoulAlive said: DarlingDiana said: also, Stevie Wonder and Michael Jackson made an album together in 1974 called "Butercup" (or something like that). It was never released.
It was a Michael Jackson solo album,recorded in 1973.The song "Buttercup" was planned as the first single.For some reason,the album was never released. Yeh but wasn't it produced by Stevie Wonder? | |
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DarlingDiana said: SoulAlive said: It was a Michael Jackson solo album,recorded in 1973.The song "Buttercup" was planned as the first single.For some reason,the album was never released. Yeh but wasn't it produced by Stevie Wonder? Yes it was. There were a number of songs recorded. Michael spoke about it in a magazine in the 80s. "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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