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Thread started 02/28/07 10:37pm

NWF

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Now they should have a Black Rocker show

Shit, if they can make a show about White folks rapping, why not have a show about Black rockers taking back the music that's rightfully theirs? lol
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Reply #1 posted 03/01/07 12:22am

CinisterCee

lol I'd watch this too!
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Reply #2 posted 03/01/07 2:27am

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It wouldn't work. The thing about the White Rapper show is that white people generally can't rap. Or atleast not as well as black people. But black people can rock hard. A lot of them, better than white people (Jimi Hendrix, Prince). So I don't think it would work for that reason. But if it happened, I would still watch it.
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Reply #3 posted 03/01/07 2:54am

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I said this on a thread a month ago. VH-1 doesn't have the balls to do it. They feel it wouldn't be "marketable" in today's music scene.
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Reply #4 posted 03/01/07 4:45am

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DarlingDiana said:

It wouldn't work. The thing about the White Rapper show is that white people generally can't rap. Or atleast not as well as black people. But black people can rock hard. A lot of them, better than white people (Jimi Hendrix, Prince). So I don't think it would work for that reason. But if it happened, I would still watch it.


Sorry, but that's BS. There's just as many bad black rockers as there are bad white rappers. It's all in the casting.
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Reply #5 posted 03/01/07 5:33am

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MendesCity said:

DarlingDiana said:

It wouldn't work. The thing about the White Rapper show is that white people generally can't rap. Or atleast not as well as black people. But black people can rock hard. A lot of them, better than white people (Jimi Hendrix, Prince). So I don't think it would work for that reason. But if it happened, I would still watch it.


Sorry, but that's BS. There's just as many bad black rockers as there are bad white rappers. It's all in the casting.
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There's is also just as many bad white rockers as there are bad black rappers
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Reply #6 posted 03/01/07 7:45am

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DarlingDiana said:

MendesCity said:



Sorry, but that's BS. There's just as many bad black rockers as there are bad white rappers. It's all in the casting.
[Edited 3/1/07 4:45am]

There's is also just as many bad white rockers as there are bad black rappers


I completely agree. biggrin
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Reply #7 posted 03/01/07 7:48am

Anx

they should have a latino squaredancing show.
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Reply #8 posted 03/01/07 8:20am

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black country singer show
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Reply #9 posted 03/01/07 8:30am

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DarlingDiana said:

It wouldn't work. The thing about the White Rapper show is that white people generally can't rap. Or atleast not as well as black people. But black people can rock hard. A lot of them, better than white people (Jimi Hendrix, Prince). So I don't think it would work for that reason. But if it happened, I would still watch it.



Are we getting into a whole useless bs argument on here about which race can rock out harder than the other? Doesn't seem to be a very helpful or progressive stance to make.
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Reply #10 posted 03/01/07 8:38am

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PurpleJam said:

DarlingDiana said:

It wouldn't work. The thing about the White Rapper show is that white people generally can't rap. Or atleast not as well as black people. But black people can rock hard. A lot of them, better than white people (Jimi Hendrix, Prince). So I don't think it would work for that reason. But if it happened, I would still watch it.



Are we getting into a whole useless bs argument on here about which race can rock out harder than the other?

no...that is, until you decided to post yer question. wink

anyhoo, this reminds me: i just watched the documentary afro-punk for the first time a week ago, and this thread re-sparked my thoughts on the whole black rocker thing. i think it'd be really interesting to see a competition with black rock groups, in order to get the rest of the general public to see that it does exist. it'd be nice for my peers to see that punk rock and rock in general is anyone's game, and not just for white people.

if i had a quarter for every time i've been asked "why you listen to that rock stuff, that's what white folks listen to!" or why i wear what i wear (yes, i am a punk-funkster sista), i'd be up past my head in laundry money by now. i'd be swimming around like scrooge mcduck on my way to the laundry room downstairs.
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Reply #11 posted 03/01/07 8:44am

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i'd be swimming around like scrooge mcduck on my way to the laundry room downstairs.


lol ~!!!!!
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Reply #12 posted 03/01/07 8:44am

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Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #13 posted 03/01/07 8:46am

CinisterCee

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i'd be swimming around like scrooge mcduck on my way to the laundry room downstairs.


lol ~!!!!!
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Reply #14 posted 03/01/07 8:47am

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black country singer show


charlie pride! headbang
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Reply #15 posted 03/01/07 8:48am

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

PurpleJam said:




Are we getting into a whole useless bs argument on here about which race can rock out harder than the other?

no...that is, until you decided to post yer question. wink

anyhoo, this reminds me: i just watched the documentary afro-punk for the first time a week ago, and this thread re-sparked my thoughts on the whole black rocker thing. i think it'd be really interesting to see a competition with black rock groups, in order to get the rest of the general public to see that it does exist. it'd be nice for my peers to see that punk rock and rock in general is anyone's game, and not just for white people.





if i had a quarter for every time i've been asked "why you listen to that rock stuff, that's what white folks listen to!" or why i wear what i wear (yes, i am a punk-funkster sista), i'd be up past my head in laundry money by now. i'd be swimming around like scrooge mcduck on my way to the laundry room downstairs.




Actually I did not start it with my question. DarlingDiana did with their 'statement'. Let the correction be made.
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Reply #16 posted 03/01/07 8:51am

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PurpleJam said:

Actually I did not start it with my question. DarlingDiana did with their 'statement'. Let the correction be made.
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it takes two to start it up, actually...
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Reply #17 posted 03/01/07 8:52am

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:



anyhoo, this reminds me: i just watched the documentary afro-punk for the first time a week ago, and this thread re-sparked my thoughts on the whole black rocker thing. i think it'd be really interesting to see a competition with black rock groups, in order to get the rest of the general public to see that it does exist. it'd be nice for my peers to see that punk rock and rock in general is anyone's game, and not just for white people.



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Reply #18 posted 03/01/07 8:56am

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theAudience said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:



anyhoo, this reminds me: i just watched the documentary afro-punk for the first time a week ago, and this thread re-sparked my thoughts on the whole black rocker thing. i think it'd be really interesting to see a competition with black rock groups, in order to get the rest of the general public to see that it does exist. it'd be nice for my peers to see that punk rock and rock in general is anyone's game, and not just for white people.



...Electric Purgatory


Don't miss this one if it comes to your town or gets released on DVD.


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peace Tribal Disorder

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biggrin wow...another documentary to add to my must-see list! and yeah, i hope they release it on dvd if they don't have a screening in mpls (they had a screening for afro-punk when it came out but i wasn't able to go see it then, so i can imagine they'll do one for this too).

you seen it, neal?
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Reply #19 posted 03/01/07 9:06am

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

PurpleJam said:

Actually I did not start it with my question. DarlingDiana did with their 'statement'. Let the correction be made.
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it takes two to start it up, actually...



Yes, perhaps you are right. But my intent was to say that it should not become a topic of importance or debate because it is a very ignorant and useless discussion matter to get into. That is all I was saying. I mean what exactly is the positive point of saying the whole 'oh, this race is much better at rocking out than this race' thing?
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Reply #20 posted 03/01/07 9:10am

Handclapsfinga
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PurpleJam said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:


it takes two to start it up, actually...



Yes, perhaps you are right. But my intent was to say that it should not become a topic of importance or debate because it is a very ignorant and useless discussion matter to get into. That is all I was saying.

understood. thumbs up!
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Reply #21 posted 03/01/07 9:12am

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:



you seen it, neal?

Yes I took my family to the screening they had in L.A....



...Met Angelo Moore, Raymond Gayle (director) & Tori Ruffin.

Very good documentary that could stand a Part II.


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Reply #22 posted 03/01/07 10:39am

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DarlingDiana said:


There's is also just as many bad white rockers



This has come up before regarding bands getting bookings on latenite shows like Conan, Letterman, Kimmel et al. I'm amazed at the tolerance there is for mediocre rock bands that are primarily white and largely unknown. While usually they are breaking a single, it's not unusual for a band to get the spotlight for no real apparent reason. For black acts on this circuit, a hip-hop or R&B pop act has a higher priority, but I know I could pick a different black rock band each night that would be more deserving.
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Reply #23 posted 03/01/07 10:44am

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PFunkjazz said:

DarlingDiana said:


There's is also just as many bad white rockers



This has come up before regarding bands getting bookings on latenite shows like Conan, Letterman, Kimmel et al. I'm amazed at the tolerance there is for mediocre rock bands that are primarily white and largely unknown. While usually they are breaking a single, it's not unusual for a band to get the spotlight for no real apparent reason. For black acts on this circuit, a hip-hop or R&B pop act has a higher priority, but I know I could pick a different black rock band each night that would be more deserving.


Exactly. But the ratio of Black rock acts or Rock groups with Black members is kinda smaller though.
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Reply #24 posted 03/01/07 10:46am

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NWF said:

PFunkjazz said:




This has come up before regarding bands getting bookings on latenite shows like Conan, Letterman, Kimmel et al. I'm amazed at the tolerance there is for mediocre rock bands that are primarily white and largely unknown. While usually they are breaking a single, it's not unusual for a band to get the spotlight for no real apparent reason. For black acts on this circuit, a hip-hop or R&B pop act has a higher priority, but I know I could pick a different black rock band each night that would be more deserving.


Exactly. But the ratio of Black rock acts or Rock groups with Black members is kinda smaller though.


See my post in the JOURNEY thread!
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Reply #25 posted 03/01/07 10:48am

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Well I just started this thread since the whole theme of the White Rapper show was based on role reversal. Unfortunately since the conventional wisdom among many is that Rap is designed for Black folks and Rock for White, I figured why not do a switcheroo? lol

But of course that's so untrue. There are Rockers and rappers out there in America (and the rest of the world as well) that come in all colors. I don't think music should be associated or identified by race. But unfortunately in America that's how it is.
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Reply #26 posted 03/01/07 10:53am

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Exactly, america thinks more in Race now than ever before. If anything the boundaries in music are so "plain as day" its amazing. The fact that there isnt an RB Band out there speaks volumes about how labels think and what the younger generation is thinking. I would challenge one of these shows to put together an RB band as their theme, and im not talking something like Boyz II men or Next, IM talking a Band those arent bands. Im talking Commodores, EWF, Parliament, no one would have the balls to put that on the air, it doesnt sell.

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Reply #27 posted 03/01/07 11:30am

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Id like to see a show that was serious about putting together a diverse rock band, that would be cool smile
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Reply #28 posted 03/01/07 11:58am

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I would LOVE to see a show about Black Rock! It's a shame that society likes to put colors on genres, because it's just silly.
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Reply #29 posted 03/01/07 11:58am

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thekidsgirl said:

Id like to see a show that was serious about putting together a diverse rock band, that would be cool smile



clapping Now THAT would be awesome! No need to segregate the ROCK!
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