Maybe it's me, but shouldn't part of this qualification (if we're talking about white artists in the context of soul music) be limited to white artists who had some level of success on the black contemporary music scene? Some of these artists being named have had absolutely no impact on the genre.
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you serious?

she showed her father's photos a gazillion times in the media, last was in the AMA's in 03 - the year he died - when she did a tribute to him and showed his photo in the big screen behind her.

See it here:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=hj20jgWMDxQ

2003 was the 1st she met him since he left her and her mom when she was 3 years old, and he died the same year.

Najee said:

no, because the contemporary black music scene is just as exclusive now as the white contemporary music scene was in the 1950's.

Lately i have seen different musiccritics mention that George Michael is the best white 'soul' singer ever. They are wrong, in my opinion.

This 'award' should go to Van Morrison. Alltough he has covered a broad scope of musical styles: traditional R&B, Jazz, soul, funk, folk and country, its his VOICE that is always his most powerfull feature. It just says SOUL.

I mean, anyone who doesnt get moved by his singing on tracks like Steppin'out Queen, Listen to the lion or Raglan Road has a heart of stone.

Najee said:

Well this is the information I found and she has publically stated her father is a Black Venezuelan: Info below:

" Alfred Roy Carey : Mariah Carey's father
Citizenship : American. His father was a Venezuelan, named Roberto Nuñez. The latter changed his named to Robert Carey when he immigrated to the USA.
Occupation : Aeronautical engineer

Mariah's relationship with her father was much more distant. First of all, he wanted to give her a very strict upbringing that didn't suit her mischievous character. Also, her parents divorced when she was only 3. For example, when Mariah hummed at the dinner table, her father would immediately tell her to keep quiet. Mariah would directly get up from the table and continue singing. Of course, it'd make her father angry.

After the divorce, Alfred and Alison moved to Washington D.C. In the beginning, Mariah used to visit him quite often. Nevertheless, she recalls with embarrassment that she used to hide so that the other kids wouldn't see her with a black man. Mariah would tell them that her dark complexion was due to her Italian origins. Progressively, those visits became less frequent. Not that long ago, her father wasn't even aware of her success. He believed that she had only released one album thus far. For a laugh, Mariah and her mom would call it "THE Album."

However, following the introspection that she began during the "Butterfly" era, Mariah felt like returning to her roots; Mariah and her father finally became reconciled. Their emotional bonds have grown stronger especially since he got sick. She is also trying to get in touch with her grandparents on her paternal side. Seeing that they were hostile to her parents' union, they seem to be opposed to a reunion.

On July 4th 2002, Alfred Roy Carey lost his battle to cancer."


Her story kind of reminds you of the movie "Imitation of Life."
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I can't believe that after 17 year's of Mariah Carey being in the music business people are still questioning her race . . . .I mean, the poor girl says herself she is both black and white and still people are refusing to believe her?

no you didn't! She has as black as Halle or Tiger woods, she's just light skinned.

4everYoung said:

A lot of that has to do with Mariah Carey's appearance, per the picture posted, and the conveniently absent photos of her father. It's more of a question of what percentage of African ancestry is in Carey's family.

twink69 said:

No, you can't call Mariah Carey "light-skinned." Skin color, physical features are definitely Caucasian-dominant at the least -- Mariah's appearance is as "black" as Vanna White's. With Tiger Woods and Halle Berry, you can tell they have African ancestry.
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What do you mean "what percentage of African ancestry" ?? Her father was Black! What more proof is there to question? Have you never once in her 17 year career heard her speak of her racial background? Do people really believe that because you appear more white than black that it is impossible to be both?

kenny loggins

Bad thread from the beginning

Sorry, misfee

But i am not following this forum constantly, so i didnt noticed that.

IMO, the names you bring up, are trying very hard to sound 'soulfull', but they are not really expressing their soul in the end. I mean, Taylor Dayne? Lisa Stansfield? Boy george? common, thats nonsense.

Give me a David Hidalgo (Los lobos, not white, but mexican-american) or Lyle Lovett (white, Texan) anytime, but not those kind of phonies youre listing.

Haven't read the thread, and define "soul"...Are we talking about the shelves at the record store, someone who sings from their heart or white folks who "sound black"

Do you remember the hit single Miss California around 2001 ???

I think the white dude has a pretty good voice, I don't know what happens to him.

His name is Daniel Thomas

Here's his myspace page :

http://profile.myspace.co...d=13335166

Has Remy Shand been mentioned here yet? He has his own thread, but I still wanted to mention him.

thedribbler said:

Love Mariah... but I must agree... not so sure about the healthy porn 4 teenagers...

and she does have some serious songs

Riverpoet31 said:

he's a perfectionist who rerecords everything until there isn't a mistake.

theodore said:

would be a good choice, but Mariah is from an interacial marriage, so she would be a black soul singer. Not a great one either