OTW has some tracks that are just plain silly or pleasant filler, like Girlfriend (i hate that song ), I can't help it and It's the fallin' in love;
I can't Help it, is one of MJ precious gems, itas not been over-played and over commercialized. The more I think about the more I am happy that songs like I can't Help it, The falling in Love, GEt on the Floor were not A-side singles. It is not necessarily the commercially successful songs that makes an album classic, it's the hidden gems imo that really give an album it's overall quality. | |
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SoulAlive said: pjh1972 said: Bad is his worst album. It's dated very badly (with the exception of Man in the Mirror and The Way You Make Me Feel) and the production sounds clunky and sterile.Thriller, and of course Off the Wall, sound organic and fresh in comparism largely because there's real musicianship on there rather than synths and programming.
I agree,the 'Bad' album didn't age well.These days,most of the songs on that album sound really dated.For the most part,I don't like alot of late-80s music.There were too many synths,too many drum machines and other production gimmicks.To me,'Off The Wall' still sounds fresh and invigorating.It's an album that has stood the test of time. You don't like Smooth Criminal? | |
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You guys do realize that Michael Jackson existed before 1979, correct?
Michael Jackson - Got To Be There Released August 13, 1972 Chart positions: #14 (US); #3 (US R&B); #37 (UK) "Ain't No Sunshine" "I Wanna Be Where You Are" "Girl Don't Take Your Love From Me" "In Our Small Way" "Got to Be There" "Rockin' Robin" "Wings of My Love" "Maria (You Were the Only One)" "Love is Here and Now You're Gone" "You've Got a Friend" Michael Jackson - Ben Released August 4 1972 Chart positions #5 (US); #17 (UK) "Ben" "The Greatest Show on Earth" "People Make the World Go Round" "We've Got a Good Thing Going" "Everybody's Somebody's Fool" "My Girl" "What Goes Around Comes Around" "In Our Small Way" "Shoo-Be-Doo-Be-Doo-Da-Day" "You Can Cry On My Shoulder" Michael Jackson - Music And Me Released April 13 1973 Chart positions #92 (US); #24 (US R&B) "With a Child's Heart" "Up Again" "All The Things You Are" "Happy (A Theme from "Lady Sings the Blues")" "Too Young" "Doggin' Around" "Johnny Raven" "Euphoria" "Morning Glow" "Music and Me" Michael Jackson - Forever, Michael Released January 16 1975 Chart positions #101 (US); #10 (US R&B) Track listing "We're Almost There" "Take Me Back" "One Day In Your Life" "Cinderella Stay Awhile" "We've Got Forever" "Just a Little Bit of You" "You Are There" "Dapper Dan" "Dear Michael" "I'll Come Home to You" Michael Jackson - One Day In Your Life Released March 25 1981 Chart positions #144 (US); #41 (US R&B); #29 (UK) "One Day in Your Life" "Don't Say Goodbye Again" "You're My Best Friend, My Love" "Take Me Back" "We've Got Forever" "It's Too Late to Change the Time" "You Are There" "Dear Michael" "I'll Come Home to You" "Make Tonight All Mine" Michael Jackson - Farewell My Summer Love Released May 8 1984 Chart positions #46 (US); #31 (US R&B); #9 (UK) "Don't Let It Get You Down" "You've Really Got a Hold On Me" "Melodie" "Touch The One You Love" "Girl You're So Together" "Farewell My Summer Love" "Call On Me" "Here I Am (Come and Take Me)" "To Make My Father Proud" | |
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amit1234 said: You guys do realize that Michael Jackson existed before 1979, correct?
..... Michael Jackson - Forever, Michael Released January 16 1975 Chart positions #101 (US); #10 (US R&B) Track listing "We're Almost There" "Take Me Back" "One Day In Your Life" "Cinderella Stay Awhile" "We've Got Forever" "Just a Little Bit of You" "You Are There" "Dapper Dan" "Dear Michael" "I'll Come Home to You" I did. However, the bits of it I heard I never really cared for beyond the mainstream stuff. However, Cee thanks for showing me what I was missing. [Edited 2/23/07 16:22pm] | |
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JasonStar said: amit1234 said: You guys do realize that Michael Jackson existed before 1979, correct?
..... Michael Jackson - Forever, Michael Released January 16 1975 Chart positions #101 (US); #10 (US R&B) Track listing "We're Almost There" "Take Me Back" "One Day In Your Life" "Cinderella Stay Awhile" "We've Got Forever" "Just a Little Bit of You" "You Are There" "Dapper Dan" "Dear Michael" "I'll Come Home to You" I did. However, the bits of it I heard I never really cared for beyond the mainstream stuff. However, Cee thanks for showing me what I was missing. I love this album. | |
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The Motown albums aren't that great. Some of them have a few gems, but they aren't comparable to his 1979-2001 albums. His best ones are Music & Me and Forever Michael. | |
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DarlingDiana said: The Motown albums aren't that great. Some of them have a few gems, but they aren't comparable to his 1979-2001 albums. His best ones are Music & Me and Forever Michael.
They are absolutely comparable to his other albums! Invincible is probably dead last after Farewell My Summer Love. | |
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If I were to rank his solo albums (including the Motown ones) it'd go like this...
1. Bad 2. Dangerous 3. Off The Wall 4. Thriller 5. HIStory 6. Invincible 7. Forever, Michael 8. Music & Me 9. Got to Be There 10. Ben (One Day In Your Life isn't a real album. It's more a compilation. Farewell My Summer Love isn't really a studio album either. It's a collection of rarities/unreleased songs from his Motown days.) | |
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DarlingDiana said: (Farewell My Summer Love isn't really a studio album either. It's a collection of rarities/unreleased songs from his Motown days.)
(and still better than Invincible) | |
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1. OFF The Wall
2. Thriller 3. Dangerous 4. Bad Everything else.... | |
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murph said: 1. OFF The Wall
2. Thriller 3. Dangerous 4. Bad Everything else.... I doubt very strongly that you own Ben. | |
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DarlingDiana said: The Motown albums aren't that great. Some of them have a few gems, but they aren't comparable to his 1979-2001 albums. His best ones are Music & Me and Forever Michael.
I take his Motown solo material over Bad, Dangeous, HIstory anyday, anywhere. At least in those songs you still hear Michael's soul, rather than the hollow, contrieved pop sound he started to do in earnest after Thriller. | |
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whatsgoingon said: DarlingDiana said: The Motown albums aren't that great. Some of them have a few gems, but they aren't comparable to his 1979-2001 albums. His best ones are Music & Me and Forever Michael.
I take his Motown solo material over Bad, Dangeous, HIstory anyday, anywhere. At least in those songs you still hear Michael's soul, rather than the hollow, contrieved pop sound he started to do in earnest after Thriller. co-fuggen-sign!!!! Got To Be There is some crazy soul compared to post-Thriller fare | |
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CinisterCee said: whatsgoingon said: I take his Motown solo material over Bad, Dangeous, HIstory anyday, anywhere. At least in those songs you still hear Michael's soul, rather than the hollow, contrieved pop sound he started to do in earnest after Thriller. co-fuggen-sign!!!! Got To Be There is some crazy soul compared to post-Thriller fare If you can't hear the passion and soul in songs like Stranger In Moscow, They Don't Care About Us, Morphine, Who Is It etc then YOU'RE the hollow one, not Michael. | |
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MattyJam said: CinisterCee said: co-fuggen-sign!!!! Got To Be There is some crazy soul compared to post-Thriller fare If you can't hear the passion and soul in songs like Stranger In Moscow, They Don't Care About Us, Morphine, Who Is It etc then YOU'RE the hollow one, not Michael. I think Stranger in Moscow is a wonderful song, his best song post-Thriller, but more often than not like his face MJ music has become contrieved and hollow. | |
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whatsgoingon said: DarlingDiana said: The Motown albums aren't that great. Some of them have a few gems, but they aren't comparable to his 1979-2001 albums. His best ones are Music & Me and Forever Michael.
I take his Motown solo material over Bad, Dangeous, HIstory anyday, anywhere. At least in those songs you still hear Michael's soul, rather than the hollow, contrieved pop sound he started to do in earnest after Thriller. Nah, I think there's way too much filler on his solo Motown albums. A lot of songs are fantastic ("I Wanna Be Where You Are" is easily in my top-5 of all MJ songs), but I'd have to say all of his adult solo albums are more consistent (save Invincible). "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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Oh, are we now ranking the albums?
Off The Wall Invincible Thriller Dangerous History Bad Got To Be There Ben Blood On The Dance Floor Forever Michael Music & Me | |
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Dangerous | |
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CinisterCee said: murph said: 1. OFF The Wall
2. Thriller 3. Dangerous 4. Bad Everything else.... I doubt very strongly that you own Ben. Of course I heard Ben...It's a cute album that showcased a kid with an astonishing voice...But it's not up there with his best...Speaking of his best, the best song MJ has ever written over the past 15 or so years is "Stranger In Moscow"...If only the rest of the History album was on that level...Just a brilliant song, lyrically and conceptually.... [Edited 2/24/07 7:18am] | |
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JoeTyler said: Thriller is his best album!!, Off the wall comes pretty close, but Thriller is better crafted, OTW has some tracks that are just plain silly or pleasant filler, like Girlfriend (i hate that song ), I can't help it and It's the fallin' in love
"I Can't Help It" is vocally MJ at his best...It's also the type of mature, soulful song that MJ should have done more often in his career...I don't trust the opinion of anyone who doesn't like that song...lol | |
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murph said: I don't trust the opinion of anyone who doesn't like that song...lol
OK, sue me xDD [Edited 2/24/07 7:30am] | |
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I must be the only orger who rates Invincible among Mike's best work.
Still, no different to NorthernLad's love for The Beekeeper or Anx and his Come fetish. Minorities are cool. | |
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Krytonite said: SoulAlive said: I agree,the 'Bad' album didn't age well.These days,most of the songs on that album sound really dated.For the most part,I don't like alot of late-80s music.There were too many synths,too many drum machines and other production gimmicks.To me,'Off The Wall' still sounds fresh and invigorating.It's an album that has stood the test of time. You don't like Smooth Criminal? I never liked "Smooth Criminal" I think 'Bad' contains three really great songs: "Liberian Girl" "Another Part Of Me" "Man In The Mirror" The other songs are just okay ("The Way You Feel Me Feel") or just plain dumb ("Speed Demon"..."Just Good Friends"). | |
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murph said: JoeTyler said: Thriller is his best album!!, Off the wall comes pretty close, but Thriller is better crafted, OTW has some tracks that are just plain silly or pleasant filler, like Girlfriend (i hate that song ), I can't help it and It's the fallin' in love
"I Can't Help It" is vocally MJ at his best...It's also the type of mature, soulful song that MJ should have done more often in his career...I don't trust the opinion of anyone who doesn't like that song...lol I agre,"I Can't Help It" is one of MJ's best songs.It's soulful and mature."It's The Falling In Love" is heavenly. | |
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THRILLER
the doggone girl is mine because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." | |
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MattyJam said: CinisterCee said: co-fuggen-sign!!!! Got To Be There is some crazy soul compared to post-Thriller fare If you can't hear the passion and soul in songs like Stranger In Moscow, They Don't Care About Us, Morphine, Who Is It etc then YOU'RE the hollow one, not Michael. whatever Matty KEEP SLEEPIN' ON THEM MOTOWN LPs!! MORE FOR ME HAHA | |
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CinisterCee said: JasonStar said: I did. However, the bits of it I heard I never really cared for beyond the mainstream stuff. However, Cee thanks for showing me what I was missing. I love this album. Cinister, have u heard the extended remix of We're Almost There? OMG, I grew up not really liking the track, but a friend sent me a CD with the remix of it and it's now one of my favorite songs EVER "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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bboy87 said: CinisterCee said: I love this album. Cinister, have u heard the extended remix of We're Almost There? OMG, I grew up not really liking the track, but a friend sent me a CD with the remix of it and it's now one of my favorite songs EVER I haven't heard the extended remix but the original is one of my favorites evar! | |
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It's one the Soul Source: Jackson 5 Remixes Vol.2 cd. DJ Spinna took it and included unheard adlibs and DAMN....now I have to go listen to it lol "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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bboy87 said: It's one the Soul Source: Jackson 5 Remixes Vol.2 cd. DJ Spinna took it and included unheard adlibs and DAMN....now I have to go listen to it lol
I knew DJ Spinna did it. cinister@neferiu.com | |
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