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Printableactually the Rob & Fab song wasn't bad at all
http://www.youtube.com/wa...FHIvp3gMGQ Check it out ...Shiny Toy Guns R gonna blowup VERY soon and bring melody back to music..you heard it here 1st! http://www.myspacecomment...theone.mp3 | |
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Mazerati said: wasn't C&C Music Factory doing the same thing by using Martha Wash on vocals and having Zelma Davis lip synch her vocals in the video's? also same thing with Black Box? and why didn't they get called out for it like Milli Vanilli?
It was close, but not quite the same. Unlike Rob and Fab, Cliviles and Cole actually worked on the tracks. You'd have a better point if those songs had been credited solely to Zelma Davis. [Edited 2/19/07 17:27pm] "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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AlexdeParis said: Mazerati said: wasn't C&C Music Factory doing the same thing by using Martha Wash on vocals and having Zelma Davis lip synch her vocals in the video's? also same thing with Black Box? and why didn't they get called out for it like Milli Vanilli?
It was close, but not quite the same. Unlike Rob and Fab, Cliviles and Cole actually worked on the tracks. You'd have a better point if those songs had been credited solely to Zelma Davis. [Edited 2/19/07 17:27pm] Farian was Milli Vanilli's producer, working on the beats, with the REAL singers, and he took credit for producing the "Fake" Milli Vanilli as well. Isn't that kind of the same?  [Edited 2/19/07 19:27pm] | |
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JasonStar said: AlexdeParis said: It was close, but not quite the same. Unlike Rob and Fab, Cliviles and Cole actually worked on the tracks. You'd have a better point if those songs had been credited solely to Zelma Davis. [Edited 2/19/07 17:27pm] Farian was Milli Vanilli's producer, working on the beats, with the REAL singers, and he took credit for producing the "Fake" Milli Vanilli as well. Isn't that kind of the same?
AFAIC, no. It wasn't the "FF Music Factory." C+C were always the group, but they featured people like Freedom Williams and Zelma. It just turned out the only thing they featured Zelma doing was dancing the videos.  OTOH, Rob & Fab were basically billed as Milli Vanilli. They were the group, not guest artists.
Of course, both were shady, but I don't think they're all that comparable. "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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AlexdeParis said: JasonStar said: Farian was Milli Vanilli's producer, working on the beats, with the REAL singers, and he took credit for producing the "Fake" Milli Vanilli as well. Isn't that kind of the same?
AFAIC, no. It wasn't the "FF Music Factory." C+C were always the group, but they featured people like Freedom Williams and Zelma. It just turned out the only thing they featured Zelma doing was dancing the videos. OTOH, Rob & Fab were basically billed as Milli Vanilli. They were the group, not guest artists.
Of course, both were shady, but I don't think they're all that comparable. I really like your reasoning - you won me over. (I have Freedom's solo album. I love it!  ) Do you have it/like it by chance? | |
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JasonStar said: AlexdeParis said: AFAIC, no. It wasn't the "FF Music Factory." C+C were always the group, but they featured people like Freedom Williams and Zelma. It just turned out the only thing they featured Zelma doing was dancing the videos. OTOH, Rob & Fab were basically billed as Milli Vanilli. They were the group, not guest artists.
Of course, both were shady, but I don't think they're all that comparable. I really like your reasoning - you won me over. (I have Freedom's solo album. I love it! ) Do you have it/like it by chance?Actually, I've never heard it. I remember a single, but I don't think I liked it very much. "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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even real mccoy was exposed
yeah those tunes were sweet but I felt guilty for liking them since they're not the real singers. I roll my eyes at blame it on the rain but girl you know it's true is adorable! awwww I hope it's used in ads and stuff soon since it's been almost 20 years | |
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alphastreet said: even real mccoy was exposed
yeah those tunes were sweet but I felt guilty for liking them since they're not the real singers. I roll my eyes at blame it on the rain but girl you know it's true is adorable! awwww I hope it's used in ads and stuff soon since it's been almost 20 years REAL MCCOY? EXPOSED? WHAT?????  | |
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yeah I read on amazon that the female singers weren't really singing but I don't really care. I still play that guilty pleasure of an album [Edited 2/19/07 20:58pm] | |
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Mazerati said: wasn't C&C Music Factory doing the same thing by using Martha Wash on vocals and having Zelma Davis lip synch her vocals in the video's? also same thing with Black Box? and why didn't they get called out for it like Milli Vanilli?
For C+C Music Factory, Martha Warsh only perform the vocals on Gonna Make You Sweat (which Zelma Davis would also lip-synch within the video). The vocals for the other follow-up singles Here We Go (Lets Rock & Roll) & Things That Make You Go Hmmmm were perform by Zelma. BTW, Martha never receive credit for perform all of the vocals for Black Box or credit for doing backing vocals for the girl band, Seduction. And yes, there were a lot of out-of-court settlements after Martha filed the lawsuits. | |
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a whole fucken genre built on Martha's talent, for real | |
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AlexdeParis said: Mazerati said: wasn't C&C Music Factory doing the same thing by using Martha Wash on vocals and having Zelma Davis lip synch her vocals in the video's? also same thing with Black Box? and why didn't they get called out for it like Milli Vanilli?
It was close, but not quite the same. Unlike Rob and Fab, Cliviles and Cole actually worked on the tracks. You'd have a better point if those songs had been credited solely to Zelma Davis. [Edited 2/19/07 17:27pm] Again, on Here We Go (Lets Rock & Roll) & Things That Make You Go Hmmmm, Zelma did perform the singing vocals with her own voice. Her vocals are powerful in their own right. But it no match of Martha Walsh!
C+C's final hit Do You Wanna Get Funky proves that point when Zelma & Martha were doing backing vocals together. And it's a shame that I can't find the video on YouTube anymore!!!  | |
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TonyVanDam said: Again, on Here We Go (Lets Rock & Roll) & Things That Make You Go Hmmmm, Zelma did perform the singing vocals with her own voice. Her vocals are powerful in their own right. But it no match of Martha Walsh!
this is true. GET ON UP 
GET ON UP AND DANCE! (yeah)  | |
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TonyVanDam said: AlexdeParis said: It was close, but not quite the same. Unlike Rob and Fab, Cliviles and Cole actually worked on the tracks. You'd have a better point if those songs had been credited solely to Zelma Davis. [Edited 2/19/07 17:27pm] [b]Again, on Here We Go (Lets Rock & Roll) & Things That Make You Go Hmmmm, Zelma did perform the singing vocals with her own voice. Her vocals are powerful in their own right. But it no match of Martha Walsh! Yeah, I did know that. Actually, "Here We Go (Let's Rock & Roll)" has always been my favorite of theirs. "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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