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Reply #30 posted 02/16/07 2:38pm

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Survivalism is a great song! eek


yeah, it is! mr.green

i'm wondering if these are the only two tracks that are going to leak hmmm
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Reply #31 posted 02/16/07 2:41pm

MikeMatronik

evenstar3 said:

MikeMatronik said:

Survivalism is a great song! eek


yeah, it is! mr.green

i'm wondering if these are the only two tracks that are going to leak hmmm


What surprised me is the bitrate of the leaks!!!! 320!!! omfg
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Reply #32 posted 02/16/07 2:46pm

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NIN staff just leaked Survivalism in 320kbps...

don't even say its NOT them..cause it is!


lol We know, we know, Evenstar3 posted the lyrics above.

Bfunkthe1 said:

Where does one hear or find these tracks?
Thanks again for info!


See the main post for 'My Violent Heart' + check evenstar3's post above and the NIN forums regularly on www.echoingthesound.org for further info

MikeMatronik said:

The tracklist...this seems to be a concept album about modern society and war.


THIS IS SOME OF WHAT WE KNOW SO FAR:
*Spoiler Alert*
On the back of a new NIN tour shirt, some letters are highlighted. These highlighted letters all come together to form the clause "I AM TRYING TO BELIEVE." This directly leads to other things, like www.iamtryingtobelieve.com turned out to be an actual site. This website and many others are continually popping up with the same theme depict a very tortured, dystopic world. It's now pretty obvious that this is an A.R.G.

CONCEPT/THEME
Paranoia, deceit, conspiricies - a dystopian civilization in the throws of extinction. A government poisoning its own citizens through the drinking water. Military police raiding private residences. The end of civil liberties. The creation of a Church-State. Mind control.

The year is Year Zero. Most dates end with 0000 or something similar. When referring to the past, the years are in negatives. Example: Thirteen years prior to 0000 is listed as "-13 BA," ('Born Again'?), as that would work with the negative sign before the year. It is now proven that year zero itself is actually the year 2022, as indicated by imagery on iamtryingtobelieve.com. This makes the year 2007 actually become -15 BA. For more information, and a timeline see foot of this post.


- PAREPIN
Found on the first discovered site, is a drug used in the water system and drinking supply of the general public. Its first use was said to combat all disease, though there has been no proof of it. The Administration added it to the drinking supply to both combat disease and reduce the risk of any kind of biological attack on the people; however, many citizens are reluctant to believe this. Discontinued use of the drug reveals clarity of thought, which the government claims is paranoia. Things are not as they seem.

- OPAL
Opal is a new drug distributed commonly in liquid form. This is supposedly "the new crack," as it is cheaper to distribute and more widely available. According to many underground news sources, this drug's main distribution source is America itself. Opal is said to be a religious experience for many people. Also, many will remember a song called "Head Like a Hole (Opal)"

Consolidated Mail Systems has a professional description of the drug that implies that its name is "opal" because the color is distinct and black.
This sound clip details various things about the drug. People are arguing whether it's Trent or not speaking at the beginning. Later in the file is a Colombian woman, which when translated states:

"When i was a girl things weren't easy, but now it rains and rains. we haven't even dried the coca leaves and then they left. they say its because of global warming. 2 years ago the river took my brothers house, it took my brother his wife, my nephew, and the baby girl. we found her covered with mud and when she dried out she resembled ashes. last year was difficult but the men who by the coca leaves told us to grow what we could. and we did it and they they took it. we waited and we waited and then finally they told us that they could not pay us. because nobody wants to by coca leaves. [baby crying in the background] [talking to it] shhhhh... there there pretty girl. this year the rains returned and we could not grow anything. now the people say that nobody will buy the coca leaves, its not worth anything to anyone. in Bogotá they only want OPAL. they buy OPAL in the United States and they bring it to Bogotá... OPAL

- THE PRESENCE
You may remember the song "The Wretched" and how Trent says that "God himself will reach his fucking arm through," right? Welcome to reality. The Presence seems to be this gigantic arm pushing through the sky onto the ground. On various websites dealing with the new concept, it is stated that sightings of the Presence can be attributed to many different things, whether it be the new drugs Opal or Parepin, a quasi-religious experience, and many others.

Here are the current images having to do with The Presence:
ONE TWO THREE FOUR FIVE
(Image one is from iamtryingtobelieve.com, two, three, and four are from the anotherversionofthetruth.com boards, and five originally comes from Consolidated Mail Systems)

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CURRENT WEBSITES & DETAILS ABOUT THEM:
www.iamtryingtobelieve.com
- This was the first site discovered, and it is about this Parepin drug. The author of the website seems to be someone who has stopped using Parepin. Users may e-mail him to ask any questions, but are greeted with a very creepy auto-reply:

Auto-reply from water@iamtryingtobelieve.com wrote:
Thank you for your interest. It is now clear to me that Parepin is a completely safe and effective agent developed to protect us from bio-terrorism.
The Administration is acting purely in the best interests of its citizens; to suggest otherwise was irresponsible and I deeply regret it.

I'm drinking the water. So should you.


Perhaps he's on to something...?

www.anotherversionofthetruth.com
- On first glance, this is nothing more than simple, smiley propaganda. Another version of the truth is revealed (quite literally!) if you click and drag. Once new text is revealed, clicking a link takes you to a message board in which citizens of this particular setting are discussing many things about society, most of it being quite negative, scary, or depressing. Three audio files have been revealed so far:

1. opalo.mp3, discussing this Opal drug.
2. ballgameOver.mp3, taken from the point of view of an "angry sniper." This angry sniper is most likely the same sniper found on Consolidated Mail Systems' site, as well as Be the Hammer. Keith from the IRC channel has kindly transcribed all of the chatter in this file, and the complete bit of info can be found here.
3. nohurry.mp3, detailing a police raid and showcasing the REAL truth behind it.

Also, some lyrics were posted on the message boards of this site. This is also speculation, but these could be lyrics to a song on Year Zero:
"Used to be the leader/ now comes the time to serve/ maybe we show some mercy/ maybe you get what you deserve"

The "My Violent Heart" leak apparently directed people to this site.

www.bethehammer.net
- This appears to be a resistance site, linked to at the anotherversionofthetruth.com message board. This is pretty much open to interpretation as nobody seems to have any hard evidence as to what this is, who is saying it, or anything else; however, it details several stories that fit within this arc. It's much too complex to be summarized here, but the stories themselves can be found on the website.

It is worthy to note that, as stated above, the author of this website seems to be the same angry sniper in the audio clip as well as the CMS website. As one simple form of evidence, he says "a credit card and a hardware store can make you a hero" in both places. Lines have been drawn between the timeline found further down this post and the stories he has told on his site.

www.105thairbornecrusaders.com
- Soldiers of God under the US flag. Not much is known about this site as of yet. The angry sniper claims to be a sniper who served the 105th Crusaders.

www.churchofplano.com
- The Church of Plano. Not much is known about this site of yet, either. cynicmuse lets us know that the Church of Plano is a New Evangelical Church; one congregation of the New Evangelical Church donated land for the first base of the 105th and another took care of Fort Paul during a deployment. The Church of Plano is also a 'Sola Scriptura' organization.

www.consolidatedmailsyste...eimportant
- This is the site for what must be the main mail service of society (perhaps). It features a description of Opal stolen from a police officer and his reference handbook, as well as numerous crude drawings, including one of the Presence. It is definitely worthy to note that the page reads "ANGRY SNIPER sent you this message on Thursday, Feb 10, 0000." The title "angry sniper" is most likely a reference to the sound clip that features an angry guy shooting people with a sniper rifle. At the bottom of the page is a footnote, talking about a site called Opalescent Haze. Hmm... Interestingly, if you try to click any link on this page, it gives you the following warning:

The page at http://www.consolidatedmailsystems.com wrote:
WARNING CODE 24.10.4 (All page functionality disabled):
You are not the citizen assigned to this account. Close this window immediately and stay where you are. Authorities will be in contact shortly for appropriate reeducation.

www.consolidatedmailsyste...en_unknown
- Ironically, one cannot enter the site if you are an "unknown citizen," but "no one important" is able to enter freely to view a detailed drug description from an officer reference handbook.

MISC
- On one particular tour shirt, much like the old tour shirt, some dates were highlighted, revealing the following number: 13102951040. This is a United States phone number. Calling it reveals a new "sound clip," featuring a small sample of "Survivalism."

A small passage from 'The Hobbit' was found by splicing together numerous images from the various websites.

Some other sites have been located found, but they haven't gone live as yet at the time of this post.

"Survivalism" was played around 7:20 AM pacific time on KROQ on the morning of February 16th.

"My Violent Heart" was purposefully leaked - A flash drive was reportedly found on the stall floor of one of the restrooms at TWO Nine Inch Nails shows on February 13th and February 14th in Lisbon, Portugal and Madrid, Spain, respectively. These two flash drives had references to anotherversionofthetruth.com and contained "My Violent Heart" encoded at 320kbps.

Interestingly enough, the song ends with a small burst of noise. Members of the community have put the noise through a spectrograph, and they ended up getting a rather scary image of The Presence, which you can see by clicking HERE

TIMELINE
Year 0000 = 2022
BA = America is "Born Again," presumably on 1/1/2022

8/??/-13 BA (8/??/2009) - L.A. attacked with dirty bomb. Anaheim attacked with biological weapons.
9/??/-13 BA (9/??/2009) - Parepin first added to public water in Orlando, Wash DC, NYC, Atlanta, Boston, and then the rest of the nation.
9/??/-13 BA (9/??/2009) - 105th Airborne Crusaders commissioned
12/25/-13 BA (12/25/2009) - 105th first engagement in Syria

??/??/2019 - Bioterrorism "attack" on Northeast

2/2/0000 (2/2/2022) - I kill people, so should you
2/4/0000 (2/4/2022) - Obscured messages on message board.
2/4/0000? (2/4/2022) - The Presence visits the 105th
2/5/0000 (2/5/2022) - Raid on Quarker Outreach center at University of South Florida.
2/9/0000 (2/9/2022) - Angry Sniper shoots people at baseball game in Chicago
2/9/0000 (2/9/2022) - Vince shot in his car after visited by The Presence?
2/10/0000 (2/10/2022) - Readable messages on message board.
2/10/0000, Thursday (2/10/2022) - Angry Sniper sends Parcel to NoOneImportant
2/13/0000, Sunday (2/13/2022) - FECP sermon

MAJOR EVENTS WITHOUT FIRM DATES
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* Seattle has a "bioterrorism attack" that people survive thanks to Parepin (sometime soon after 2009?)
* 105th campaigns in Syria, Yemen, Chad, Kashmir, former-Iran, Post-Iran, Turkey (sometime between 2010 - 2022?)
* Conflict in South Africa (sometime closer to YZ, maybe 2020-2022?)
"The Presence" visitations (recent? 2021-2022?)
* Opal overtakes cocaine as predominant drug (recent? 2020-2022?)
* Mallory killed

-----

MISSING PEOPLE:
Suyai Abbot
Dylan Chast
Kyle Bilgare
Ellison (?)

FINE & LAYING LOW:
"Shatter36"

KILLED IN ANOTHER PERSON'S CAR:
Vince

AUTHOR, KILLED HERSELF:
Calista Whitcomb

LINKED TO REPORT ON PAREPIN'S RELATION TO DROPPING BIRTH RATES:
Dahlasik C., Allbright L., Grunewald N.

NFL COMMISIONER:
Jerry Bomzer

MENTIONED ON CHURCH OF PLANO:
Pastor Johnson
Pastor Green
Bill Chapman
Tyler Chapman
Barnet(t) Family

MENTIONED ON 105th AIRBORNE:
John Fellstone MSgt - Retired
Pvt Gordon Shula
Cpl Jill Nasmith
Pvt Bunde
Dave P. MSgt. Ret'd
Cpl. Joseph M.
Murray S. Mjr. Ret'd
Lt. Ramsay
'Badland'

MENTIONED ON BETHEHAMMER:
Mallory

MENTIONED ON CONSOLIDATEDMAILSYSTEMS:
Ellison (?)



Come on in, the water's fine.

It goes as deep as you want it to go...
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Reply #33 posted 02/16/07 3:03pm

MikeMatronik

eek
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Reply #34 posted 02/16/07 3:09pm

evenstar3

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MikeMatronik said:

eek


lol

isn't it cool?!
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Reply #35 posted 02/16/07 3:12pm

MikeMatronik

evenstar3 said:

MikeMatronik said:

eek


lol

isn't it cool?!



It's more than cool! eek

Now this what I call "Genius"!


eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek

Trent was not joking about making a soundtrack for a movie that doesn't exist!
[Edited 2/16/07 15:13pm]
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Reply #36 posted 02/16/07 3:19pm

MikeMatronik

WTF! This "Fake" websites stuff is incredible! eek

I never something like this.

The is the most phenomenal promotion of an album I ever seen (Sorry MJ...This is better than HIStory statue!)
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Reply #37 posted 02/16/07 3:45pm

ascenderx

Been a fan since the 1st cd.I've got that maxi w/the opal version of head like a hole on it(w/samples of the time).Also of note-Trent thanks Prince on the 1st cd(inspiration only,i believe).Trent IS nine inch nails.I went 2 a show on the with teeth show.He's NEVER let me down musically.....if u've never listened,do so.....As far as leaking goes...I had the entire With Teeth album b4 it was released,so the leaking is not always intentional--ppl just aren't always trustworthy:(
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Reply #38 posted 02/16/07 3:50pm

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ascenderx said:

Been a fan since the 1st cd.I've got that maxi w/the opal version of head like a hole on it(w/samples of the time).Also of note-Trent thanks Prince on the 1st cd(inspiration only,i believe).Trent IS nine inch nails.I went 2 a show on the with teeth show.He's NEVER let me down musically.....if u've never listened,do so.....As far as leaking goes...I had the entire With Teeth album b4 it was released,so the leaking is not always intentional--ppl just aren't always trustworthy:(


these leaks were. nod
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Reply #39 posted 02/16/07 3:54pm

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I'm literally blown away by all this. I'm not even that much of a fan and I'm sucked right in. It's unbelievable!

The leaked tracks are incredible too!

excited

Trent's amazing!
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Reply #40 posted 02/16/07 3:57pm

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PreacherMan said:

I'm literally blown away by all this. I'm not even that much of a fan and I'm sucked right in. It's unbelievable!

The leaked tracks are incredible too!

excited

Trent's amazing!


trent = god nod
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Reply #41 posted 02/16/07 4:11pm

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http://www.ninwiki.com/Main_Page

this site seems to be cataloging everything nicely.
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Reply #42 posted 02/16/07 4:24pm

ascenderx

u can quote me on this.....about all this stuff....'this is some weird crap,man'


publicity stunt?


webring?



confused

i found out bout it originally on Ministry's site


http://www.pissarmy.com/
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Reply #43 posted 02/16/07 5:14pm

ascenderx

this thing is far-reaching.....leave it 2 Trent 2 create a net-event such as this.

excerpt from bethehammer....the parepin makes us compliant, but kills aggression. different soldiers get different pills to put it back.
regulars get little blue ones, we call them ‘die-agra.’ blue pills keep you frosty and get your soldier on.
blue pills are fun.
sometimes, if you are very good at your job, they give you red pills. the red ones are called ‘blisters’ or
‘bloody mary’ or ‘jerk’
red pills erase the line between killing and #####. some of the damage is permanent. your family, you
can’t go back once you’ve taken the red pills. they told us that part afterwards.




i dunno if this was posted already or not(and i aint scrollin thru the thread 2 find out)
Trent has posted a blog update on The Spiral, stating: "What you are now starting to experience IS 'year zero'. It's not some kind of gimmick to get you to buy a record - it IS the art form... and we're just getting started. Hope you enjoy the ride."---http://www.theninhotline..../index.php
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Reply #44 posted 02/16/07 5:30pm

ascenderx

i realize i'm posting a lot,but i'm excited and it's my bday,so bite me.....
A message from Trent:

"This record began as an experiment with noise on a laptop in a bus on tour somewhere. That sound led to a daydream about the end of the world. That daydream stuck with me and over time revealed itself to be much more. I believe sometimes you have a choice in what inspiration you choose to follow and other times you really don't. This record is the latter. Once I tuned into it, everything fell into place... as if it were meant to be. With a framework established, the songs were very easy to write. Things started happening in my "real" life that blurred the lines of what was fiction and what wasn't. The record turned out to be more than a just a record in scale, as you will see over time.

Part one is year zero. Concept record. Sixteen tracks. All written and performed by me, produced / programmed by me and Atticus Ross, mixed by Alan Moulder, mastered by Brian "Big Bass" Gardner. Release date: April 17, 2007.

What's it about? Well, it takes place about fifteen years in the future. Things are not good. If you imagine a world where greed and power continue to run their likely course, you'll have an idea of the backdrop. The world has reached the breaking point - politically, spiritually and ecologically. Written from various perspectives of people in this world, "year zero" examines various viewpoints set against an impending moment of truth. How does it sound? You will hear for yourself soon enough, but given the point of this document is to provide information...

This record is much more of a "sound collage" than recent efforts from me.

A lot of it was improvised.

It is very tedious describing your own music.

It's not just music.

It's probably too long, but it felt like the right thing to do to paint the complete picture.

It will sound different after a few listens.

You can think about it and it will reveal more than you were expecting.

You can dance to a lot of it.

You can f**k to a lot of it (maybe all of it depending on what you're into).



http://www.xtaster.co.uk/...p?id=13688
[Edited 2/16/07 17:32pm]
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Reply #45 posted 02/16/07 5:54pm

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ascenderx said:

i realize i'm posting a lot,but i'm excited and it's my bday,so bite me.....
A message from Trent:

"This record began as an experiment with noise on a laptop in a bus on tour somewhere. That sound led to a daydream about the end of the world. That daydream stuck with me and over time revealed itself to be much more. I believe sometimes you have a choice in what inspiration you choose to follow and other times you really don't. This record is the latter. Once I tuned into it, everything fell into place... as if it were meant to be. With a framework established, the songs were very easy to write. Things started happening in my "real" life that blurred the lines of what was fiction and what wasn't. The record turned out to be more than a just a record in scale, as you will see over time.

Part one is year zero. Concept record. Sixteen tracks. All written and performed by me, produced / programmed by me and Atticus Ross, mixed by Alan Moulder, mastered by Brian "Big Bass" Gardner. Release date: April 17, 2007.

What's it about? Well, it takes place about fifteen years in the future. Things are not good. If you imagine a world where greed and power continue to run their likely course, you'll have an idea of the backdrop. The world has reached the breaking point - politically, spiritually and ecologically. Written from various perspectives of people in this world, "year zero" examines various viewpoints set against an impending moment of truth. How does it sound? You will hear for yourself soon enough, but given the point of this document is to provide information...

This record is much more of a "sound collage" than recent efforts from me.

A lot of it was improvised.

It is very tedious describing your own music.

It's not just music.

It's probably too long, but it felt like the right thing to do to paint the complete picture.

It will sound different after a few listens.

You can think about it and it will reveal more than you were expecting.

You can dance to a lot of it.

You can f**k to a lot of it (maybe all of it depending on what you're into).



http://www.xtaster.co.uk/...p?id=13688
[Edited 2/16/07 17:32pm]


Happy Birthday! smile

Fascinating reads too...thank you.
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Reply #46 posted 02/16/07 6:09pm

BananaCologne

I have no doubt that this played a massive part in influencing this album:



Trent was a very vocal supporter of it. If you haven't seen it yet, you really should.

More about the film can be found on its official website HERE
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Reply #47 posted 02/16/07 6:26pm

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BananaCologne said:

I have no doubt that this played a massive part in influencing this album:



Trent was a very vocal supporter of it. If you haven't seen it yet, you really should.

More about the film can be found on its official website HERE


Fascinating, and a little depressing.
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Reply #48 posted 02/16/07 7:15pm

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totally unreal!!
You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
authentic power is service- Pope Francis
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Reply #49 posted 02/16/07 7:33pm

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Nine Inch Nails' myspace has the new songs!!!!! They're amazing!!!

www.myspace.com/nin
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Reply #50 posted 02/16/07 7:55pm

ascenderx

'An Inconvenient Truth'.....yeah.....we're pretty much screwed at this point. sad
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Reply #51 posted 02/16/07 7:56pm

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ascenderx said:

'An Inconvenient Truth'.....yeah.....we're pretty much screwed at this point. sad



Has trent said that this is really in relation to his album though..
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Reply #52 posted 02/16/07 9:10pm

ascenderx

Sdldawn said:

ascenderx said:

'An Inconvenient Truth'.....yeah.....we're pretty much screwed at this point. sad



Has trent said that this is really in relation to his album though..


Not that i'm aware of.
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Reply #53 posted 02/16/07 11:56pm

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After some time to digest the two new tunes,I can say with all honesty, yes!.. cool
Think 'Pretty' and 'Spiral', appraoch wise, with a low-fi sound but still progressive. It works and is still forward thinking. Great Stuff.
Fantasy is reality in the world today. But I'll keep hangin in there, that is the only way.
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Reply #54 posted 02/17/07 3:09am

BananaCologne

Sdldawn said:

ascenderx said:

'An Inconvenient Truth'.....yeah.....we're pretty much screwed at this point. sad



Has trent said that this is really in relation to his album though..


Nope, but I'd bet my last dollar on it that it'll crop up in future interviews as the spark that ignited the flame.

Care to place your bets? biggrin
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Reply #55 posted 02/17/07 5:56am

mrdespues

Wow his "future message board" Another Version of the Truth is a lot like

http://www.abovetopsecret.com

I bet he visited that one a bit for inspiration.
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Reply #56 posted 02/17/07 9:12am

Sdldawn

BananaCologne said:

Sdldawn said:




Has trent said that this is really in relation to his album though..


Nope, but I'd bet my last dollar on it that it'll crop up in future interviews as the spark that ignited the flame.

Care to place your bets? biggrin


I'm not gonna bet on it cause your probably right. wink but I hope he has enough pride not to admit that!
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Reply #57 posted 02/17/07 1:45pm

novabrkr

Listening to it now.

This is horrible shit.
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Reply #58 posted 02/17/07 1:50pm

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novabrkr said:

Listening to it now.

This is horrible shit.


care to elaborate? confused
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Reply #59 posted 02/17/07 1:57pm

novabrkr

evenstar3 said:

novabrkr said:

Listening to it now.

This is horrible shit.


care to elaborate? confused


Well not really. People on these kind of forums think Nine Inch Nails is somehow an original band that is somehow "off the mainstream", so I'm just leaving it there. But by even his questionable standards, this is utter garbage. Reminds me of some of his recent copycats like Dismantled. Only it somehow actually manages to be worse.
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