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Music Industry looks to double last years concert $$$ Well it was reported on CNN that last years $$ for concert grosses were the biggest yet, now the industry isnt looking to top it, its looking to double it. Since CD sales arent what the industry had hoped for, its banking on Tours now, and really who can tour successfully? Veteran bands and artists. With re-union tours planned by The Police and Van Halen, they may make the money just on those 2. But also joing in will be the Eagles touring behind a new record, Elton John touring with a 4 person band only, a rumoured tour for Prince (?) and dates already booked for Gwen Stefani and now Norah Jones across the USA and Europe. Expect summer tours also from John Mellencamp behind his amazing "Freedoms Road" record. On top of this will be the usual Summer touring veterans like Chicago,Hall and Oates (already playing),Styx,Duran Duran (behind a new record) and many more. If the industry was SMART it would somehow allow these artists to sell their cds at the events, for cheap prices, the reason the labels dont allow this, is because they cant "soundscan" it, though many artists i mentioned do sell cds at their shows, those CDS are NOT counted in soundscan. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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wasnt there a glut of concert tours a few years back and folks had to scale back because of it?
i just cant see folks going broke for any of these folks outside of Van Halen, The Police and Prince. Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: wasnt there a glut of concert tours a few years back and folks had to scale back because of it?
i just cant see folks going broke for any of these folks outside of Van Halen, The Police and Prince. All of these artists clearly sell out when they play, i dont think people will be going broke for them. The Gwen Stefani tickets already since saturday have sold out in most major markets, the Norah Jones shows go on sale Tuesday for most dates but she will clealry sell out, all of the others like Elton always sell out, the Eagles touring behind a new album, clearly a sell out. The thing is that the "young" artists just cant tour or get anyone to pay for any kind of ticket for them, which is why you never see them in the top concert grossing amounts, which is why the industry is finally hurting from its "fascination with youth" . Also add Christina Aguilera to that tour list, she goes out from April-June, she might be the only artist under 25 that can sell oout a show. For Prince it depends on the type of tour he does, obviously he will sell out, but what will he play? If he does another "hits" tour then he will play larger venues and get more $$, however if does a "One Nite Alone" type tour then he will play small venues, so what he will do you never know, so you cant just count him in as a top tour seller, it depends on what he's pushing. At this point the industry needs some kind of revenue and its not coming from CD sales, it will have to come from tours and as usual the "real artists". [Edited 2/12/07 22:06pm] "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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lastdecember said: sosgemini said: wasnt there a glut of concert tours a few years back and folks had to scale back because of it?
i just cant see folks going broke for any of these folks outside of Van Halen, The Police and Prince. All of these artists clearly sell out when they play, i dont think people will be going broke for them. The Gwen Stefani tickets already since saturday have sold out in most major markets, the Norah Jones shows go on sale Tuesday for most dates but she will clealry sell out, all of the others like Elton always sell out, the Eagles touring behind a new album, clearly a sell out. The thing is that the "young" artists just cant tour or get anyone to pay for any kind of ticket for them, which is why you never see them in the top concert grossing amounts, which is why the industry is finally hurting from its "fascination with youth" . Also add Christina Aguilera to that tour list, she goes out from April-June, she might be the only artist under 25 that can sell oout a show. For Prince it depends on the type of tour he does, obviously he will sell out, but what will he play? If he does another "hits" tour then he will play larger venues and get more $$, however if does a "One Nite Alone" type tour then he will play small venues, so what he will do you never know, so you cant just count him in as a top tour seller, it depends on what he's pushing. At this point the industry needs some kind of revenue and its not coming from CD sales, it will have to come from tours and as usual the "real artists". [Edited 2/12/07 22:06pm] Last time around she had a problem sellin any tickets all the venus had to be changed from arenas to theaters!! |
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lastdecember said: The thing is that the "young" artists just cant tour or get anyone to pay for any kind of ticket for them, which is why you never see them in the top concert grossing amounts, which is why the industry is finally hurting from its "fascination with youth".
Yeah,it's funny how so many of the so-called "hot" artists can't seem to have successful tours.In many cases,they have to add several other acts to the bill,in order to sellout arenas.Remember the Beyonce/Alicia Keyes/Missy Elliot tour from a few years ago? Beyonce is planning to tour this year,but you can bet that she will have to add a few other "hot" acts to the bill.Even Christina Aguilera had to add Pussycat Dolls and Danity Kane to her tour,presumably to sell more tickets.It's really the veteran artists who are having the most success on the road. | |
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asg said: lastdecember said: All of these artists clearly sell out when they play, i dont think people will be going broke for them. The Gwen Stefani tickets already since saturday have sold out in most major markets, the Norah Jones shows go on sale Tuesday for most dates but she will clealry sell out, all of the others like Elton always sell out, the Eagles touring behind a new album, clearly a sell out. The thing is that the "young" artists just cant tour or get anyone to pay for any kind of ticket for them, which is why you never see them in the top concert grossing amounts, which is why the industry is finally hurting from its "fascination with youth" . Also add Christina Aguilera to that tour list, she goes out from April-June, she might be the only artist under 25 that can sell oout a show. For Prince it depends on the type of tour he does, obviously he will sell out, but what will he play? If he does another "hits" tour then he will play larger venues and get more $$, however if does a "One Nite Alone" type tour then he will play small venues, so what he will do you never know, so you cant just count him in as a top tour seller, it depends on what he's pushing. At this point the industry needs some kind of revenue and its not coming from CD sales, it will have to come from tours and as usual the "real artists". [Edited 2/12/07 22:06pm] Last time around she had a problem sellin any tickets all the venus had to be changed from arenas to theaters!! Well this time around she is playing theaters only with the exception of NYC her hometown where she is playing MSG. But its understandable because for her show she is a club artist, she used to play these tiny clubs in NYC that held about 100 people, so to put her into venues with 20,000 seats with her type of show, im sure they fired the person that was planning that. People nowadays will only see Large venue shows for Veteran rock bands and things like that, people dont wanna pay 100 bucks and sit towards the back of 20,000 people. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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SoulAlive said: lastdecember said: The thing is that the "young" artists just cant tour or get anyone to pay for any kind of ticket for them, which is why you never see them in the top concert grossing amounts, which is why the industry is finally hurting from its "fascination with youth".
Yeah,it's funny how so many of the so-called "hot" artists can't seem to have successful tours.In many cases,they have to add several other acts to the bill,in order to sellout arenas.Remember the Beyonce/Alicia Keyes/Missy Elliot tour from a few years ago? Beyonce is planning to tour this year,but you can bet that she will have to add a few other "hot" acts to the bill.Even Christina Aguilera had to add Pussycat Dolls and Danity Kane to her tour,presumably to sell more tickets.It's really the veteran artists who are having the most success on the road. The scary about the Alicia/Beyonce/Missy shows were that they didnt sell out most of the venues they played, including MSG here in NYC, that is scary, that the Biggest selling star over the last decade cant sell out a 20,000 seat arena. Christina had to add those acts because she clearly couldnt put on her own 2 hour show for a whole tour. Im guessing Danity Kane will get half an hour then PCD could get an hour, they were playing 75 minute sets in Europe, but they will have to cut it im sure. But i cant see Christina doing more than 80-90 minutes if even that long. Im sure its troubling to the industry that they cant sell tickets for the top artists and have to depend on the veterans year after year to pull it off, whats going to happen when these veterans just stop touring? whos gonna play? "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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Just a slight correction Norah's tour this year in the states is all theaters include NYC, her dates at MSG are for the Theater not the arena. Very smart, her shows need to be in smaller surroundings. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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As it is concerts are too expensive especially when they add on tax and service charge.
I'll break the bank for Prince, the Police and George Michael but that's about it. Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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lastdecember said: sosgemini said: wasnt there a glut of concert tours a few years back and folks had to scale back because of it?
i just cant see folks going broke for any of these folks outside of Van Halen, The Police and Prince. All of these artists clearly sell out when they play, i dont think people will be going broke for them. The Gwen Stefani tickets already since saturday have sold out in most major markets, the Norah Jones shows go on sale Tuesday for most dates but she will clealry sell out, all of the others like Elton always sell out, the Eagles touring behind a new album, clearly a sell out. The thing is that the "young" artists just cant tour or get anyone to pay for any kind of ticket for them, which is why you never see them in the top concert grossing amounts, which is why the industry is finally hurting from its "fascination with youth" . Also add Christina Aguilera to that tour list, she goes out from April-June, she might be the only artist under 25 that can sell oout a show. For Prince it depends on the type of tour he does, obviously he will sell out, but what will he play? If he does another "hits" tour then he will play larger venues and get more $$, however if does a "One Nite Alone" type tour then he will play small venues, so what he will do you never know, so you cant just count him in as a top tour seller, it depends on what he's pushing. At this point the industry needs some kind of revenue and its not coming from CD sales, it will have to come from tours and as usual the "real artists". [Edited 2/12/07 22:06pm] Xtina starts touring the States in March the first show i believe is March 2nd in San Diego. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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The thing is that the "young" artists just cant tour or get anyone to pay for any kind of ticket for them, which is why you never see them in the top concert grossing amounts, which is why the industry is finally hurting from its "fascination with youth" . Hopefully people are finally getting some good taste and getting bored with them. I know I wouldn't pay good money to see someone on a stage singing live with some pre-recorded music and a stage full of dancers to fill up the stage where the instruments should have been. Concerts these days look more like thugged out versions of Broadway shows. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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lastdecember said: SoulAlive said: Yeah,it's funny how so many of the so-called "hot" artists can't seem to have successful tours.In many cases,they have to add several other acts to the bill,in order to sellout arenas.Remember the Beyonce/Alicia Keyes/Missy Elliot tour from a few years ago? Beyonce is planning to tour this year,but you can bet that she will have to add a few other "hot" acts to the bill.Even Christina Aguilera had to add Pussycat Dolls and Danity Kane to her tour,presumably to sell more tickets.It's really the veteran artists who are having the most success on the road. The scary about the Alicia/Beyonce/Missy shows were that they didnt sell out most of the venues they played, including MSG here in NYC, that is scary, that the Biggest selling star over the last decade cant sell out a 20,000 seat arena. Christina had to add those acts because she clearly couldnt put on her own 2 hour show for a whole tour. Im guessing Danity Kane will get half an hour then PCD could get an hour, they were playing 75 minute sets in Europe, but they will have to cut it im sure. But i cant see Christina doing more than 80-90 minutes if even that long. Im sure its troubling to the industry that they cant sell tickets for the top artists and have to depend on the veterans year after year to pull it off, whats going to happen when these veterans just stop touring? whos gonna play? In 25 years who will be the top touring artists? | |
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I must be getting old because dozens of dancers and flashy choreography don't do it for me anymore and lip syncing never did it for me. I can easily watch someone with a guitar and a mic or a beautiful vocal instrument and a serious backing band and be satisfied. Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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You can't download the experience of seeing/hearing a live performer.
Unless you listen to dance music, which means you mightas well stay at home and just listen to the cd they will be lipsyncing to. | |
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