coolcat said:

I am not 100% sure at all, but I've seen cases where the more powerful formal claim for copyright violation is "loss of income", not unauthorized use of "intellectual property", which usually doesn't get too far legally. It sounds totally bogus as the most sensible claim would be just to state that they made money off the original author's work without his permission and that should be enough. But copyright laws are pretty damn stupid and vary from one country to another, maybe they have changed the most ridiculous incarnations. I don't know for sure.

Think of it this way - a lot of people who perform the instrumental arrangements on pop albums aren't given a songwriting credit even if they came up with the parts themselves. He speaks of a casio demo sequence also in the interview, and at least about that one he is right. He paid money for the use of the unit itself, and he didn't even have to pay any money for acquiring "Block Party" from the internet. The author was perfectly aware that it wasn't going to provide him any financial success due to the format, hence he put it out completely for free (like every other SID/MOD "composer").

As much as I love listening to SID music, I too have problems regarding it as "real music" in the same sense as records, or even amateur mp3s on myspace. It's just a completely different thing.

The name of the original piece is "Acid Jazzed Evening" by Janne 'Tempest' Suni. "Block Party" is the name of the ringtone Timbaland made with it.

The simpler music becomes to make and more "digital" it gets the more this will happen. And the more they change the laws about what is "legal" sampling and what isnt, this will only get worse for anyone who is in this genre of music. But there are so many cases of things like this happening. Late last year i heard a song by rock group "JET" and the guitar riff sounded so familiar, finally i remembered where i heard it, it was also on a track by "GIRLS ALOUD" the most popular group in England, turns out it was Girls Aloud's song, and the riff was actually played by studio musicians, however the Riff, was lifted by JET and "Looped" for their record.

coolcat said:

lastdecember said:

lastdecember said:

well i guess prince aint a real producer then, cuz a lot of stuff he's produced u can tell its probably his

Moonwalkbjrain said:

Which is why his artists had no identitys plain and simple, they were all his project. But that is his character flaw, your a producer when you can bring something out of an artist not give them your "sound" its up to them to creat the sound. Look at Arif Mardin, the last great producer he produced for Aretha,Chaka,Hall and oates, The bee gees and Norah Jones, do any of those artists sound a like?

lastdecember said:

That understandable.

But a typical hip-hop producer wouldn't be able to bring something out of the artists they work with because the new artists of the 2000's (and most of the 1990's) NEVER had a sound of their own to begin with (especially rappers & boy/girl bands).

Case in point: Why is it so easy for a young struggling rap artist to dream of working with Dr. Dre or Timbaland? Because those 2 "producers" can give them the 2 things the rapper didn't have to start with.....beats & sounds.

coolcat said:

Ok. I just remembered the title from the youtube comments.

I cn't believe how utterly disrespectful Timbaland is to Janne in this interview. What a lowlife piece of shit he is.