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Reply #30 posted 02/06/07 2:16pm

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

DorothyParkerWasCool said:

The one thing that illustrates Prince's greatness is the fact that a by the numbers performance (ie could have done that in his sleep sans rain) makes headline news for being an outstanding Super Bowl show. That speaks volumes about his level of talent, and conversely about the current state of popular music. Imagine if these people actually got a chance to see him in his element, they would be floored. As far as the Jim Rome and the has been talk, who cares. As Vainandy said, that's a compliment today.

exactly. it's better to be a has-been than a never-was. nod

Besides, the general public doesn't pay attention or appreciate anything outside of nostalgia or in terms of a commodity. Moreover, they don't remember anything that happened longer than 5 minutes ago.

that's another thing that bugs me about what passes for entertainment nowadays--it's so disposable. thankfully for prince and the few others out there, they came up in a time where performers would do stuff to make damn sure that you remember them, and they understood that and carry that torch now.


Great points!
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Reply #31 posted 02/06/07 2:21pm

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

they came up in a time where performers would do stuff to make damn sure that you remember them,


and for their art, not their nipples
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Reply #32 posted 02/06/07 2:30pm

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And as for performers these days trying to make people remember them with ways other than music, did anyone see CNBC last night when they tried to say that Prince tried to slip nastiness into his Super Bowl performance similar to like Janet Jackson did? It was brought up in the Prince section and I responded to someone. I'll cut and paste so y'all can hear the details.

PicassoFace said:

More Superbowl half-time Controversy

Anyone watch Countdown with Keith Olbermann? The show closed with a discussion of Prince's "getting away" with being dirty.

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I saw that last night and thought it was the most rediculous thing I've ever heard. I've seen Prince play his guitar like that a thousand times, just not behind a sheet. Their arguement was that he switched to that particular guitar when he did "Purple Rain". Hell, he switched guitars three times and the other two guitars would look much more like a dick behind the curtain than the one he used.

Then Michael Musto went on to say "We all know Prince is dirty and I love him for it" and went on to quote lyrics from over 20 years ago. If he and the rest of the staff had been following Prince's career over the years and covering it as much as they cover shit hop, they would know that Prince is not only a Jehovah's Witness now but damn near obsessed with being one at times.

Michael Musto is just upset that there is no scandal like the one after Janet Jackson's performance so they would have something to talk about for months. Now he's trying to create a scandal out of nothing. What pissed me off is when he compared Prince to Janet Jackson. He said it's so much a man's world that a man can walk around with his phallus out and a woman gets scorned for accidentally showing her breast for a split second. Now he should know as a gay man that is a damn lie. Go to any R Rated movie and all you see is titties, titties, titties. Show just a TINY glimpse of a dick and they try to slap an X rating on it. I can't stand for someone to lie like that, especially somebody that knows better.
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Reply #33 posted 02/06/07 2:53pm

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Well i'll go ahead and play the contrarian role.
Personally, I think it was a blown opportunity seeing as you've probably got the biggest captive viewing audience internationally.
(outside of the World Cup maybe.)

If it were me i'd have...

a) A new album released (or about to be released) that i'd be showcasing.
b) An upcoming tour announcement.

...at the very least.

Who knows, maybe something along those lines are in the works that we'll hear about in the next few weeks.

I really didn't get the "cover band" deal (Watchtower, The Best of You, Proud Mary) with the extensive catalog he's got.
Pull some tunes the "general public" (if that's who he was trying to appeal to) hasn't heard so that you have the appearance of presenting new material. What I got from listening to the Jim Rome sports show this morning (although the host likes him), the general consensus was that they were watching a has-been. By tomorrow I should have a soundfile of his commentary for anyone interested.
It was actually pretty funny but simultaneously gives you a perspective of what those outside the Purple Circle (pardon the pun) are thinking.

The inclusion of Purple Rain given the weather situation turned out to be quite appropriate.

When it was still raining approaching half-time I said to my wife, "I bet he has on some kind of head gear."
My bet was on the derby but maybe he didn't pack it. cowboy

I didn't hate the performance, just thought it was a bit disappointing.
My viewing experience goes back to the dissing he got at the hands of the Rolling Stones fans at the L.A. Colliseum in 1981.
I thought he was good then and everytime i've seen him since.
There was just something off about this one and i'm sure the weather didn't help.

I'm guessing the lady in white was Shelby Johnson (who has been doing the Rio shows)?
Sounds like she can sing so pray for her y'all.

Just one man's opinion.
Got my survival gear on, so bring it...



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you nailed it, Neal! Exactly my thoughts!
But, like you said, the crowd dug it!
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Reply #34 posted 02/06/07 3:03pm

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This what the gang on the Howard Stern show said on Monday morning about Prince's performance courtesy of Marksfriggin.com:

Howard said he thought Prince was really, really good in his half-time show performance. He liked that it was live and not lip syncing. Billy Joel was also live and very good in his performance. Howard said he heard Stevie Nicks was good but he didn't get to see her. She was on the pre-game. JD had recorded it for him and he was listening to it earlier in the morning. JD had told him it wasn't that great of a performance but Howard thought it was okay.

Howard said that Prince's performance was kind of cool but at one point they had Prince behind a sheet and it looked like he had a big penis sticking out with his shadow on the sheet. He asked Fred to play one of Prince's versions of Purple Rain so he could hear the break part of the song. Fred did that and found the part that Howard was talking about. Howard said the guy is super talented and he can see why the guy gets so many chicks.

Fred had gone too far with the break in the ''Purple Rain'' song so Howard had him try to find it again. JD then came in and said that he had pulled the clip from the half-time show for him to play. Howard said the guy is 48 years old and looks really good for his age. He played the song and Robin said he is singing lower these days. Howard liked the way he was playing guitar last night but some guy in the paper was saying that the Rolling Stones were much better. Howard said Prince played that guitar like he was Jimi Hendrix. Fred said the guitar was kind of out of tune though. The guitar was off a bit and they had him potted down at one point according to Fred. He said it could have been the shape of the guitar and the guy who handed it to him may have been fired after that performance.

Howard said he saw that guy kneeling down there handing the guitar to Prince. He said that's got to be the worst job doing something like that. Artie said there's a guy who works for Springsteen who throws guitars like 10 feet and then has to catch them. Fred said he thinks that Prince sounded really good for the conditions he was playing in.

Howard said he wants to ask Prince just one question and that would be whether or not he fired that guitar technician after that performance. Fred was saying the whole thing worked out okay, but the guitar was out of tune. Howard replayed it and it did sound kind of odd. Howard said it sounded good to him though. He said he thought he was going for that kind of sound but Fred said it was out of tune and he wasn't going for that sound at all. It was too flat according to him.
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Reply #35 posted 02/06/07 3:04pm

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Might whole point in mentioning the has-been feeling certain members of the general public may have was bringing to light that those outside the circle (based on his song selection) saw him much differently.

Now an artist should be true to their "art" (or what should be art) regardless of what the public thinks.
However, if he's not trying to appeal to the mainstream in some way, why do a gig like the Super Bowl in the first place.

And I guess my impression of the "covers sequence" was him saying on some level, "I'm hip, i'm current, i'm still relevant".


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Reply #36 posted 02/06/07 3:21pm

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theAudience said:

Might whole point in mentioning the has-been feeling certain members of the general public may have was bringing to light that those outside the circle (based on his song selection) saw him much differently.

Now an artist should be true to their "art" (or what should be art) regardless of what the public thinks.
However, if he's not trying to appeal to the mainstream in some way, why do a gig like the Super Bowl in the first place.

And I guess my impression of the "covers sequence" was him saying on some level, "I'm hip, i'm current, i'm still relevant".


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The covers part was slightly baffling to me, considering they were surrounded by three of his biggest songs. My only feeling was that maybe it was some kind of "new material." Perhaps this medly will appear on a new album? Again, I believe it was something personal to him, though.

Also, I liked it because it was different & new-ish.

I wonder if I'm the only one who thought he should have done something funky, though?
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Reply #37 posted 02/06/07 3:26pm

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NDRU said:



I wonder if I'm the only one who thought he should have done something funky, though?


No you're not!
watch this clip.....another way to do Baby I'm A Star.....but that was 22 years ago and certainly not suitable for the SB!

http://www.ifilm.com/video/2792252
[Edited 2/6/07 15:27pm]
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Reply #38 posted 02/06/07 4:32pm

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10 points


1. the extra texture on Purple Rain was awesome, it was so Hendrixy
2. no one cares that he missed a lyric, only some of you anal eyes people
3. dude ripped it at the Superbowl

4. to play three cover songs back to back like that is difficult, that was awesome, and to think I remember people talking about he spliced it on the mp3, it was that good


5. All Along The Watch Tower: the first lyrics are stupid, where he says his name, I still think he picked it because it has Watchtower in it


6. He would have looked like an idiot playing funk tunes at the Superbowl, people want high energy rock out shit, not Housequake


7. the twins outfits really sucked

8. the lighting was cool

9. We Will Rock You was sick and real hip

10. do you realize he did all that without real backup singers or another guitar player
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Reply #39 posted 02/06/07 5:10pm

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People are telling me how they knew Prince played guitar but they didn't know he was THAT good! I'm so proud of him. He showed the world what we have always known about him, that he is one of the greatest live performers ever.

Man I bet Dave Grohl called his whole family. Look! Prince is singing my song!
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Reply #40 posted 02/06/07 10:29pm

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I was truly moved by Prince performance. As many times as we have heard those 3 songs it was amazing hearing them in that type of setting. He tore that damn guitar up, that shit was on fire. Speaking of Jim Rome, im suprise he likes Prince. I can't stand him. I use 2 watch him when he was on ESPN. Hes on radio now with his nasty critical attitude so him liking Prince is a shocker 2 me. I can see him saying he likes Prince because all the players and sports media were speaking so highly of him before and after his performance at the superbowl so he would have looked out of place saying some negative shit.
Prince was very moved as you can see on the photo. Trust and believe he knew what he was doing and those songs "All Along The Watch Tower", and "The Best Of You" was very personal 2 him, hell hearing him sing that song brought tears 2 my eyes. Look at his expression when he says "I Got Another Confession My Friend".... I Ain't No FOOL. I hear people saying that his guitar playing was a little off on Purple Rain but I could'nt hear it, that shit was Pure and Raw with a lot of feeling in it....
BG I'm glad your brought this thread over here lol
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Reply #41 posted 02/06/07 11:38pm

abierman

Meloh9 said:

Man I bet Dave Grohl called his whole family. Look! Prince is singing my song!



eek Dave's family lives under a rock????? lol
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Reply #42 posted 02/07/07 8:22am

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NDRU said:

The covers part was slightly baffling to me, considering they were surrounded by three of his biggest songs. My only feeling was that maybe it was some kind of "new material." Perhaps this medly will appear on a new album? Again, I believe it was something personal to him, though.


Prince sent a recorded version of the medley to Howard Stern to be played on air the week before the Super Bowl. Perhaps it will indeed appear on a new album.
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Reply #43 posted 02/07/07 8:26am

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sextonseven said:

NDRU said:

The covers part was slightly baffling to me, considering they were surrounded by three of his biggest songs. My only feeling was that maybe it was some kind of "new material." Perhaps this medly will appear on a new album? Again, I believe it was something personal to him, though.


Prince sent a recorded version of the medley to Howard Stern to be played on air the week before the Super Bowl. Perhaps it will indeed appear on a new album.


He doesn't need to waste a new album on the Super Bowl medley because I can burn the audio from the performance onto CD myself. I don't need no duplicate. lol
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Reply #44 posted 02/07/07 9:50am

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all i know is I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man would've fit in perfectly. smile
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Reply #45 posted 02/07/07 2:42pm

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Well damn..I'm finally able to get on the org since Sun. I figured everyone and their momma would be on here after the S.B.... I thought P's peformance was cool. He didn't really cut up on the guitar like I thought he would (think last year's SNL gig), but it was cool nonetheless.

When I heard the Foo cover, I was like "where have I heard this before?". All the heavy metal sites are praising P's peformance. Great to see someone like him (w/ no new CD or tour) go out and show the new jacks how it's done.
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Reply #46 posted 02/07/07 7:31pm

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well, ummm...

so does this constitute a Purple Rain 2?

lol
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Reply #47 posted 02/07/07 11:08pm

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I thought it was really a great performance, all things considered, though it would've been nice to throw a newer Prince song in there.....has he resigned himself to doing 'Let's Go Crazy' all the time, as his perennial standard-cheerleader-pump-'em-up-song everytime?["go-go-go, go-go-go"](he's keeps threatening to put these songs to bed, but they just won't die, lol!!)....but again, a great performance, as usual....




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Reply #48 posted 02/08/07 11:45am

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paligap said:

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I thought it was really a great performance, all things considered, though it would've been nice to throw a newer Prince song in there.....has he resigned himself to doing 'Let's Go Crazy' all the time, as his perennial standard-cheerleader-pump-'em-up-song everytime?["go-go-go, go-go-go"](he's keeps threatening to put these songs to bed, but they just won't die, lol!!)....but again, a great performance, as usual....




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Reply #49 posted 02/09/07 5:37am

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Gold & Endorphin Machine would've been nice too.
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Reply #50 posted 02/10/07 5:22am

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

cubic61052 said:

I found it a fun performance and he was quite a trooper to brave such horrid weather.....

this is one thing that's cracking me up about the commentary i've read so far on fansites: everybody's talking about the weather and how he was able to pull through it and what-not.

ya'll tend to forget where he's from. rain ain't shit to 'im, probably. evillol

lol Someone posted something over in one of the other threads in the Prince forum about the rain, and said "Has Prince even felt rain before?" falloff

It made me laugh because it's most likely true that he hasn't been out in the rain for many years. lol

This pic (which I know has already been posted here biggrin ) just says it all. He's feeling rain for the first time in about 25 years, and he loves it. nod



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Reply #51 posted 02/10/07 8:08am

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Despite the fact, that he didn't play anything from 3121, I liked the setlist, specially the covers !
The best moment for me was when he started with All along the watchtower.
By the way: Has Prince ever covered a Dylan-song before ? Anybody knows ?
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