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Reply #30 posted 01/31/07 8:56pm

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i just couldn't get into Taylor...My impression is that he tries to hard to earn credibility...while Thicke has fun with his music...he has the "quirk" factor going on that I love.

my vote: THICKE!!!
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Reply #31 posted 01/31/07 9:16pm

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confused

rolleyes

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Reply #32 posted 01/31/07 9:17pm

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Janfriend said:


confused

rolleyes

You know I love ya but the truth is the truth...hug


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It's the truth according to you. I don't understand why we are even comparing the two
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Reply #33 posted 01/31/07 9:17pm

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CinisterCee said:

theAudience said:


That'd be a most definite YES.


I don't think you understand, Robin is Janfriend's HUSBAND!



I love how you pay attention to detail biggrin
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Reply #34 posted 01/31/07 9:43pm

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CinisterCee said:



I don't think you understand, Robin is Janfriend's HUSBAND!



I love how you pay attention to detail biggrin

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Reply #35 posted 01/31/07 11:10pm

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I just saw Robin Thicke on Jimmy Kimmel and i must be missing something with this guy, to me there is so much more in RB that needs to be pushed like Teedra Moses and Rashaan patterson, Van Hunt and Donnie etc.. Not taking anything away from Thicke but he's very similar to Justin or vice versa.

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Reply #36 posted 02/01/07 3:00am

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sosgemini said:

i just couldn't get into Taylor...My impression is that he tries to hard to earn credibility...while Thicke has fun with his music...he has the "quirk" factor going on that I love.

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Reply #37 posted 02/01/07 5:22am

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theAudience said:

Janfriend said:


confused

rolleyes

You know I love ya but the truth is the truth...hug


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I like your version of the truth this time. wink It took me a while to come around to Taylor, I think, because he's more adventurous with his musical palatte. Robin's definitely a more easily accessible performer. He's like BBD in Do Me - smoothed out on the R&B tip, with a pop feel, appeal...to it! biggrin It's helped him to get to the current level of success he's enjoying.

sosgemini said:

i just couldn't get into Taylor...My impression is that he tries to hard to earn credibility...while Thicke has fun with his music...he has the "quirk" factor going on that I love.

I'm not sure exactly what this means. Credibility at what? Like Paligap already said, he does the same thing Prince, Todd Rundgren, and others do - he does whatever style he's feelin', because he likes so much, is capable of handling the music he does and can perform it well. He's a skilled instrumentalist and performer. I don't see that as trying to earn credibility; I see it doing what comes naturally to him.
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Reply #38 posted 02/01/07 6:24am

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RipHer2Shreds said:[quote]

theAudience said:


I like your version of the truth this time. wink It took me a while to come around to Taylor, I think, because he's more adventurous with his musical palatte. Robin's definitely a more easily accessible performer. He's like BBD in Do Me - smoothed out on the R&B tip, with a pop feel, appeal...to it! biggrin It's helped him to get to the current level of success he's enjoying.

sosgemini said:

i just couldn't get into Taylor...My impression is that he tries to hard to earn credibility...while Thicke has fun with his music...he has the "quirk" factor going on that I love.

I'm not sure exactly what this means. Credibility at what? Like Paligap already said, he does the same thing Prince, Todd Rundgren, and others do - he does whatever style he's feelin', because he likes so much, is capable of handling the music he does and can perform it well. He's a skilled instrumentalist and performer. I don't see that as trying to earn credibility; I see it doing what comes naturally to him.



maybe credibility is the wrong word...for me, when i listened to his music it just sounded to forced to me. i cant explain it...it sounded more like a person mimicking then being authentic. and it wasn't anything different then your run of the mill soul/r&b music.

with that being said, i think its funny that i can hear the oddity and quirkiness in thicke's music. while other's think he is a justin knock off...

we must embrace the subjectiveness of it all. lol
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Reply #39 posted 02/01/07 6:26am

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sosgemini said:

RipHer2Shreds said:


I'm not sure exactly what this means. Credibility at what? Like Paligap already said, he does the same thing Prince, Todd Rundgren, and others do - he does whatever style he's feelin', because he likes so much, is capable of handling the music he does and can perform it well. He's a skilled instrumentalist and performer. I don't see that as trying to earn credibility; I see it doing what comes naturally to him.



maybe credibility is the wrong word...for me, when i listened to his music it just sounded to forced to me. i cant explain it...it sounded more like a person mimicking then being authentic. and it wasn't anything different then your run of the mill soul/r&b music.

with that being said, i think its funny that i can hear the oddity and quirkiness in thicke's music. while other's think he is a justin knock off...

we must embrace the subjectiveness of it all. lol

I don't think he's a Justin knockoff. I think he successfully does what Justin tries to do.
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Reply #40 posted 02/01/07 6:30am

SoulAlive

I don't know who Lewis Taylor is boxed but I really like Robin Thicke's song "Lost Without You".I'm glad to see it doing so well.
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Reply #41 posted 02/01/07 6:31am

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JAY KAY


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Reply #42 posted 02/01/07 10:37am

Mong

sosgemini said:

RipHer2Shreds said:


I'm not sure exactly what this means. Credibility at what? Like Paligap already said, he does the same thing Prince, Todd Rundgren, and others do - he does whatever style he's feelin', because he likes so much, is capable of handling the music he does and can perform it well. He's a skilled instrumentalist and performer. I don't see that as trying to earn credibility; I see it doing what comes naturally to him.



maybe credibility is the wrong word...for me, when i listened to his music it just sounded to forced to me. i cant explain it...it sounded more like a person mimicking then being authentic. and it wasn't anything different then your run of the mill soul/r&b music.

with that being said, i think its funny that i can hear the oddity and quirkiness in thicke's music. while other's think he is a justin knock off...

we must embrace the subjectiveness of it all. lol


You serious about Robin's stuff being quirky? If anything, I find his music very, very generic. Lewis Taylor may wear his influences on his sleeve (especially on his first album) but it's far from forced sounding. Anyway, different strokes...
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Reply #43 posted 02/01/07 1:06pm

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Lewis's sensiblities are a lot more avant garde. If You're only checking out Stoned Part1, you're probably seeing him at his most accessible, and I'm not sure if that's the most accurate picture. (He recently completed a version of Captain Beefheart's Trout Mask Replica, if that gives anybody an idea.)...His first two albums, Lewis Taylor, and Lewis II, were a lot more esoteric, and those B-sides were especially adventurous ( Pie In Electric Sky, anyone?)...and his Lost Album isn't R&B at all--Rock/Pop, but with that same sense of imagination.

If anyone's heard his Keyboards and vocals on the track, Consider, from Limited 2004, you'll know what I mean-- It sounds Like Joe Zawinul, Stevie, Prince, Herbie Hancock, and Jim Beard all decided to write a song together, lol

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Reply #44 posted 02/01/07 2:57pm

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paligap said:

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Lewis's sensiblities are a lot more avant garde. If You're only checking out Stoned Part1, you're probably seeing him at his most accessible, and I'm not sure if that's the most accurate picture. (He recently completed a version of Captain Beefheart's Trout Mask Replica, if that gives anybody an idea.)...His first two albums, Lewis Taylor, and Lewis II, were a lot more esoteric, and those B-sides were especially adventurous ( Pie In Electric Sky, anyone?)...and his Lost Album isn't R&B at all--Rock/Pop, but with that same sense of imagination.

If anyone's heard his Keyboards and vocals on the track, Consider, from Limited 2004, you'll know what I mean-- It sounds Like Joe Zawinul, Stevie, Prince, Herbie Hancock, and Jim Beard all decided to write a song together, lol

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Lewis is a bad motherfucker. I think Robin's stuff is more straight up, but Lewis adds a few twists, and ultimately, in this day and age, I think that's why killed him. People aren't ready for what he's doing sadly enough.
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Reply #45 posted 02/01/07 3:07pm

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paligap said:

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Lewis's sensiblities are a lot more avant garde. If You're only checking out Stoned Part1, you're probably seeing him at his most accessible, and I'm not sure if that's the most accurate picture. (He recently completed a version of Captain Beefheart's Trout Mask Replica, if that gives anybody an idea.)...His first two albums, Lewis Taylor, and Lewis II, were a lot more esoteric, and those B-sides were especially adventurous ( Pie In Electric Sky, anyone?)...and his Lost Album isn't R&B at all--Rock/Pop, but with that same sense of imagination.

If anyone's heard his Keyboards and vocals on the track, Consider, from Limited 2004, you'll know what I mean-- It sounds Like Joe Zawinul, Stevie, Prince, Herbie Hancock, and Jim Beard all decided to write a song together, lol

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Amen.


I want to hear what happened to the rest of that intro. cool



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Reply #46 posted 02/01/07 3:09pm

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RipHer2Shreds said:

I like your version of the truth this time. wink


Yes, I readily admit that it's my truth and preference. wink


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Reply #47 posted 02/01/07 3:57pm

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paligap said:

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Lewis's sensiblities are a lot more avant garde. If You're only checking out Stoned Part1, you're probably seeing him at his most accessible, and I'm not sure if that's the most accurate picture. (He recently completed a version of Captain Beefheart's Trout Mask Replica, if that gives anybody an idea.)...His first two albums, Lewis Taylor, and Lewis II, were a lot more esoteric, and those B-sides were especially adventurous ( Pie In Electric Sky, anyone?)...and his Lost Album isn't R&B at all--Rock/Pop, but with that same sense of imagination.

If anyone's heard his Keyboards and vocals on the track, Consider, from Limited 2004, you'll know what I mean-- It sounds Like Joe Zawinul, Stevie, Prince, Herbie Hancock, and Jim Beard all decided to write a song together, lol



Lewis is a bad motherfucker. I think Robin's stuff is more straight up, but Lewis adds a few twists, and ultimately, in this day and age, I think that's why killed him. People aren't ready for what he's doing sadly enough.



Yeah, like Rip said earlier, some of his stuff is pretty adventurous ---it probably kept him from being as marketable as someone like Thicke--But I'm sure Lewis can live with that either way lol


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Reply #48 posted 02/01/07 3:59pm

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theAudience said:


Amen.


I want to hear what happened to the rest of that intro. cool





Yeah, You and me both!! I'm layin' for that out-take!!



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Reply #49 posted 02/01/07 7:30pm

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What killed Lewis' career is Lewis himself. He is one difficult motha...I've heard this from too many people (particularly musicians) for it to be untrue. He has a complete fear of being successful and freaks out when he's on the cusp of it...throat polyps, my ass! He's never been comfortable with performing live...he cancelled the US tour owing to this. I think he's not the most commercial artist out there, but certainly one of the most talented. He's completely unmotivated by money...he was recently asked to do a remix of a track for the forthcoming deluxe "Here, My Dear" but declined...I say treasure what he's done...he's a fragile creature and is bound to release something NEW at some point. But Robin Thicke really is so lightweight compared to Lewis...just my humble opinion...
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Reply #50 posted 02/01/07 8:13pm

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Mong said:

What killed Lewis' career is Lewis himself. He is one difficult motha...I've heard this from too many people (particularly musicians) for it to be untrue. He has a complete fear of being successful and freaks out when he's on the cusp of it...throat polyps, my ass! He's never been comfortable with performing live...he cancelled the US tour owing to this. I think he's not the most commercial artist out there, but certainly one of the most talented. He's completely unmotivated by money...he was recently asked to do a remix of a track for the forthcoming deluxe "Here, My Dear" but declined...I say treasure what he's done...he's a fragile creature and is bound to release something NEW at some point. But Robin Thicke really is so lightweight compared to Lewis...just my humble opinion...


Yeah, that's the sense I get too, unfortunately. The weird thing is, he seemed so happy playing at the Bowery Ballroom in NYC this time last year--he was playin' his stuff, as well as covers like Funkadelic's "Hit It And Quit It" and Emerson Lake, and Palmer's "Living Sin"-- had a couple of encores, he was even playing songs they hadn't rehearsed, and teaching'em to the band while the crowd sang along...all the while, grinnin' like a schoolkid...

but I guess when they started announcing more shows he must've panicked, lol ( and yeah, I don't think anybody really believed that throat polyps thing-- at any rate, months later, he was seen playing guitar and bass for groups like Gnarls Barkley and the Edgar Broughton Band-- under his real name, Andrew Taylor[Lewis Is his middle name])...

Anyway, If he doesn't like the bright lights, why not just pull a Steely Dan or Andy Partridge(XTC)--stay in the studio, and put out music every now and then? Strange guy...brilliant musician, though...




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Reply #51 posted 02/05/07 12:16pm

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Yes!!! Lewis IS that good! 'Stoned' kind of floored me when I first heard it (played by a smart boyfriend!!! Ha, ha)...and 'The Lost Album' adds a lot of twists to that kind of neo-soul thing that was going on with 'Stoned.'
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