Whats the reason behind their feud?

I heard many MAD stuff about them 2,,,,like Sly threatening Larry with a gun(or the other way around) don't know how true this is.

Maybe ya'll can set the record straight for me.

Whats the reason behind their feud?

I heard many MAD stuff about them 2,,,,like Sly threatening Larry with a gun(or the other way around) don't know how true this is.

Maybe ya'll can set the record straight for me.

Harlepolis said:

Never heard that one before....I just heard Sly was hard to work with..Drug,etc.

AQUABOOGIE said:

Eeeverything I heard from Sly is from THIS VERY crazy site

Harlepolis said:

Sly was one evil mofo just ask santana's wife

antichrist said:

What happend?

I heard that Sly brought in gangsters, specifically Hamp "Bubba" Banks, and enlisted them to handle his business dealings, get him drugs, and to protect him from those he considered his enemies, some of whom were his own bandmates and staff. One particular night, a brawl broke out between Graham's entourage and Sly's entourage. Sly had heard that Larry had hired a hit man to kill Sly, and Sly's gang began assaulting Graham's associates. Graham and his wife climbed out of a hotel window to escape with their lives, and Pat Rizzo gave them a ride to safety. That's basically when Larry left the group. Heavy stuff!

Harlepolis said:

Sick stuff; beatings, made her have an abortion with a coat hanger etc

I heard that Sly brought in gangsters, specifically Hamp "Bubba" Banks, and enlisted them to handle his business dealings, get him drugs, and to protect him from those he considered his enemies, some of whom were his own bandmates and staff. One particular night, a brawl broke out between Graham's entourage and Sly's entourage. Sly had heard that Larry had hired a hit man to kill Sly, and Sly's gang began assaulting Graham's associates. Graham and his wife climbed out of a hotel window to escape with their lives, and Pat Rizzo gave them a ride to safety. That's basically when Larry left the group. Heavy stuff!

silverchild said:

I also heard the group received death threats at Woodstock..I think all this drama is why Larry apparently left the group. I need to find my sources!!

silverchild said:

I also heard the group received death threats at Woodstock..I think all this drama is why Larry apparently left the group. I need to find my sources!!

AQUABOOGIE said:

From the black panthers, right?

Coz I heard they demanded him to fire the white band members and he wouldn't do it.

.....and don´t forget the car bomb under Larry´s car.

Harlepolis said:

You may be right about that! It still seems like i've heard that before

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This book, : Sly and The Family Stone: An Oral History(1998), by Joel Selvin, recounted a lot of those stories. He talked to all the former members of the group, except Sly and Larry, who both declined to participate.The whole book is designed so that the whole story of the group is told by the group themselves, as well as close friends, family members. But apparently, the drugs, bodyguards and traveling in different camps led to alot of distrust, to the point where Sly's goons were going after Larry's goons , and vice versa. (my copy's at home right now; I'll have to grab it later to give specifics. Unfortunately, without corroboration from the two main players, the exact reasons go unexplained....




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paligap said:

so larry hasn't been the holier than thou person he makes out to be?

Whats the reason behind their feud?

I heard many MAD stuff about them 2,,,,like Sly threatening Larry with a gun(or the other way around) don't know how true this is.

Maybe ya'll can set the record straight for me.

Sly never really confronted or threatened Graham about anything. It was the actions of gangtas who thought they were working in Sly's best interest. Nor did Sly give any word to jack LG. Still, the threat was real and definite. LG got far far way ASAP.

Sly's a crackhead and Larry is a JW, next!

Reference the last SINBAD HBO special: That Larry Graham-led SATFS band sounded every bit as authentic as the original reordings.

Sly, for all his genius, was a paranoid brain-addled druggie and evidently kept all the credits to himself. Being a bass aficianado, I'm more inclined to Graham's inclusive approach for pre-RIOT tunes where he clearly participated in the creative process.

antichrist said:

Larry did drugs too! All this drama happened before he became a J-dub