The one I think he'd have more trouble with is Gimme Shelter... I just can't hear anybody but Mick singing that one! [/quote]

Others have tried.....

http://www.youtube.com/wa...sVw8Dpt3i4

carlcranshaw said:

thanks for posting!!! awesome performance

carlcranshaw said:

both awesome

NorthernLad said:

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damosuzuki said:

Ouch!


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theAudience said:

Great records, every single one of them.


How did it all go so wrong?

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theAudience said:

damosuzuki said:

At least from that side of the pond...



...?


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theAudience said:

touche. I have to learn to stop speaking in absolutes.

Who is that dude?

This is a great thread.

damosuzuki said:

Indeed. Or plain talking bollocks. Mick Jagger's not a great singer in any genre - and I love The Stones. Rod wipes the floor with Jagger. And then there's Eric Burdon ....

damosuzuki said:

Sugar, sugar

She sits alone waiting for suggestions
He's so nervous avoiding all the questions
His lips are dry, her heart is gently pounding
Don't you just know exactly what they're thinking

If you want my body and you think I'm sexy
come on sugar let me know.
If you really need me just reach out and touch me
come on honey tell me so
Tell me so baby

He's acting shy looking for an answer
Come on honey let's spend the night together
Now hold on a minute before we go much further
Give me a dime so I can phone my mother
They catch a cab to his high rise apartment
At last he can tell her exactly what his heart meant

If you want my body and you think I'm sexy
come on honey tell me so
If you really need me just reach out and touch me
come on sugar let me know

His heart's beating like a drum
'cos at last he's got this girl home
Relax baby now we are alone

They wake at dawn 'cos all the birds are singing
Two total strangers but that ain't what they're thinking
Outside it's cold, misty and it's raining
They got each other neither one's complaining
He say's I sorry but I'm out of milk and coffee
Never mind sugar we can watch the early movie

If you want my body and you think I'm sexy
come on sugar let me know
If you really need me just reach out and touch me
come on honey tell me so

If you really need me just reach out and touch me
come on sugar let me know
If you really, really, really, really need me
just let me know
Just reach out and touch me
If you really want me
just reach out and touch me
come on sugar let me know
If you really need me just reach out and touch me
come on sugar let me know
If you, if you, if you really need me
just come on and tell me so


From http://www.songfacts.com/...hp?id=1306

Stewart was known for his soulful blues and folk ballads, but this gave him a new look. Stewart gained many new fans with this, but alienated most of his old ones, who had no interest in Disco. As a member of The Faces, he earned a reputation as hard-rocking party animal, but this changed that image.
Most of the music was written by drummer Carmine Appice, who had recently joined Stewart's band. Says Appice: "We were in the studio and Miss You by The Rolling Stones was a big hit. Rod was always a guy that used to listen to what was going on around him. He was always looking at the charts and listening. He was a big fan of The Rolling Stones, so when they came out with Miss You, Disco was really big at the time, so he wanted to do some kind of Disco-y song, something like 'Miss You,' nothing like Gloria Gaynor. With the band, he would always tell us, 'I want a song like this' or 'I want a song like that,' so I went home and I came up with a bunch or chords and a melody. I presented it to him via a friend of mine, Duane Hitchings, who is a songwriter who had a little studio. We went in his studio with his drum machines and his keyboards, and he made my chords sound better. We gave Rod a demo of the verses and the bridge, and Rod came up with the chorus. We played it with the band many, many ways before we got the correct arrangement with Tom Dowd. Unfortunately, they put so much stuff on it that it dwarfed the sound of the band. It made the band sound smaller because it had strings and 2 or 3 keyboard players, congas, and drums. When we were doing it, we thought it was going to be more like The Rolling Stones with just the band playing it. It came out and went to #1 everywhere."
The distinctive riff came from an instrumental song called "Taj Mahal" by a Brazillian musician named Jorge Ben. When Ben filed suit, Stewart agreed to give proceeds from the song to UNICEF. There is a Blues guitarist named Taj Mahal who made his own version of the song using this same riff. The title, and also the only lyrics in the song, is "Jorge Ben."
Appice: "If you look at the lyrics, it was a story. Rod told stories in his songs: The Killing Of Georgie was a story, Tonight's The Night was a story. Any of his songs are like little mini-stories. This was a story of a guy meeting a chick in a club. At that time, that was a cool saying. If you listen to the lyrics, 'She sits alone, waiting for suggestions, he's so nervous...' it's the feelings of what was going on in a dance club. The guy sees a chick he digs, she's nervous and he's nervous and she's alone and doesn't know what's going on, then they end up at his place having sex, and then she's gone." (Thanks to Carmine for speaking with us about this song. His website is www.carmineappice.net.)
Stewart claims this song is not about him, as it is sung in the third person.
Stewart used the title as the name of his 1978 tour. He would wear tight spandex and gyrate on stage. When he sang the title line, hoards of women would scream back, "Yes!"
This went along with the Hollywood lifestyle Stewart had adopted. He moved from England to Los Angeles in 1975 and quickly fit in with the glamorous crowd. Dating blonde models was his specialty.
This was promoted by an unusual "video-within-a-video." It showed people watching him perform this on a "television screen." The concert footage was taped first -- whenever Stewart forgot the lyrics, he'd turn his face away from the camera. (thanks, Brad Wind - Miami, FL)
Stewart was ahead of his time from a marketing standpoint. Not only did he make a video for this before MTV was even a glimmer, but he also released a limited edition 12" version, which was guaranteed to be a collector's item because only 300,000 were made. The album was also released as a limited edition picture disc, which contained graphics printed directly on the vinyl as well as a cardboard pull-out of Stewart's face. 100,000 copies were pressed.

rainman1985 said:

If you're referring to the picture above your post...



...Steve Winwood.


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Shapeshifter said:

heretic!

MikeMatronik said:

I know. Isn't it?

Mick Taylor made Keef look bad IMO, Ron doesn't. I agree that Ron Wood's best stuff was with the Faces. I loved the last Stones album and it's got more to do with the fact that they still have that Stones vibe in everything they write. Not to mention they're still pulling it off live.

t/A, easy there, you're killin

Shapeshifter said:

"Tattoo You" is all songs that were in the vault. They put it out reluctantly, not realizing that all the outtakes were classic Stones songs. Theres no credit given for the songs, but Mick Taylor is playing on alot of them. Not even sure what Ron played on for sure, because they dont give musician credit. I believe this was done to avoid paying musicians such as Mick Taylor.

I do like Ron, I think when Bill Wyman left the band changed for the worse. Listen to Bill's bass lines, they add a lot, and Darryl Jones or whoever plays them now like Ron sometimes, cant come up with the cool lines that bill played. He added a lot just like Charlie does.

carlcranshaw said:

Did I hear that right? Mick Jagger singing to a track?
If not, who's playing the harp & piano?

And if you're gonna sing to that track, why remove the superlative Merry Clayton bg vocals and ad libs?
IMO, her vocals are what step the tune up to an emotional peak.

Especially at around 3:03 of the track when her voice cracks while singing...RAPE! MURDER!

Her voice brings the friggin' chills.


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DMSR said:

They didn't release "Tattoo You" "reluctantly" at all. They needed an album to tour with in 1981 and Jagger suggested that they go through the vaults and dig out the best outtakes and re-record/finish them. Most of the songs date from 1973 - 1978. Mick Taylor features in "Tops" , Billy Preston on "Slave". Ron Wood is "Black Limousine" and "Hang Fire", originally done during the Some Girls sessions in 1977.

The originals were in various stages of completion: Start Me Up was a reggae number, Hang Fire (aka Lazy Bitch)'s backing track was complete, but the vocals and chorus were re-recorded, Slave was finished (and almost made it on to Black & Blue), Tops had a new vocal added to it, and Waiting On A Friend had the Sonny Rollins sax solo overdub. This is off the top of my head, but you get the general idea.

There were only two new songs written for the album - the worst sones - Little T & A and Neighbours, both by Mr Keith Richards.

Speaking of Stones outtakes - I've got about 20 CDs of these, and, a handful of gems aside (Claudine being the best), unlike Dylan, Springsteen and even Neil Young, they really do release their best songs on their official albums.

You're absolutely right about the band taking a nosedive creatively after Bill Wyman left. Their last three albums have been crap.
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damosuzuki said:

Temper, temper!

Slave2daGroove said:

I hated the last album. Oh No Not You Again, Streets of Love and Rain Fall Down were the only songs I listened to more than once. Of those, Streets of Love worked very well live, Oh No was a poor Respectable rewrite and the Rain Fall Down remix was more interesting than the originals.

They're great live, I'll give you that. Even if it's all a bit pantomime now. You can see the dynamic right there - Charlie holding it together, Mick driving the band; Keith grinning and posing and looking increasingly ridiculous in his Rod Stewart 1983 castoffs, Ronnie veering between the inspired and coasting, the backing band slick and professional ...
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I doubt Ron Wood damaged the Stones in any way. My feeling is that their glory days were probably already behind them. With or without him they weren't likely to match their late 60's early 70's levels.

Shapeshifter said:

Yeah well, I still feel like they have something that most bands don't, a consistent vibe. The last album was just as consistent to me and while I didn't love every song, it was solid Stones.

Live, they had the crowd on their feet for 2 hours, at an arena. So the ability to excite an audience and just the catalog to chose from

Slave2daGroove said:

Out of interest, how long have you liked The Stones for? What was the album that got you into them, and which one's your favourite?

Shapeshifter said:

I thought it was just me.
Well didn't really hate it. More disappointed by it.

I've been a fan since...



...12 X 5 (maybe the first album I purchased by anybody)


A fan of everything in the Brian Jones era (even the very end)...



...these probably top the list.


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abigail05 said:

The classic Stones concert 'Brussels Affair', which unforunately was never officially released to the public, easily proves that Mick Taylor belongs on the list of the top 10 greatest guitar players ever in rock music.

damosuzuki said:

I don't know about Jagger being the greatest white blues singer ever. But I do think that he does not get enough credit for being the very soulful singer he was, especially considering the way he is singing nowadays,ahhh!

There are many great examples of Jagger's excellent blues/soul vocal stylings on record, such as: 'Let It Loose', 'Beast Of Burden', 'Cry To Me', 'Almost Hear You Sigh' and 'Fool To Cry', to name but 5. Maybe not the greatest, but certainly one of the most underrated.

I would list the 5 greatest white blues singers as being(in no particular order) the following:
1. Jagger(back in the day)
2. Rod Stewart
3. Steve Winwood
4. Eric Burdon
5. Van Morrison
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