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Printablewe used to have an oldies station that mostly played r&b/pop from the 60's 70's and 80's and I recall hearing beat it several times and it surprised me because I hadn't heard beat it on the radio in ages | |
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Najee said: Yeah, it got played because of what I said in the previous post and it was the follow-up to "Billie Jean." But once the initial marketing constraints were released, most soul music formats dropped the song from the playlists. Then we're saying different things which don't necessarily contradict each other. 1. Most of MJ's Thriller and post-Thriller material was not "soul" music per se, and targeted towards the pop/rock audiences buying the bulk of his records, and was increasingly removed from the preferred and/or emerging sounds of black music in the 80's and 90's. 2. Yet and still, the label was pushing his singles on black radio using their considerable leverage to do so. So singles that wouldn't make it in the rotation of a black radio station made it because the artist was a black man named Michael Jackson. 3. In addition, MJ's spins on black and white radio were being lumped together for Billboard charting purposes. So it caused him to have many hits on the R&B and pop charts, even though the R&B audiences weren't feeling some of those hits. Therefore, for whatever reasons, you couldn't escape Michael Jackson during that time, and he was a presence on black radio even though black audiences became increasingly disaffected with his music. Sound fair? Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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fair but weird at the same time...LOL | |
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alphastreet said: fair but weird at the same time...LOL
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namepeace said: alphastreet said: fair but weird at the same time...LOL
is the prerequisite for an orger.nutty is always good | |
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newskin69 said: Ushers music kinda irks me. I mean, he's a good singer for sure, and the guy can dance his off. At least enough to get kudos from James Brown and MJ. But his music is so bland. Typical r&b that doesnt try to stand out. Say what u want about Timberlake, but at least his music stands out from the rest.Usher's is just like everyone elses. That said, he does pull them off well with his vocal chops.
I agree he is too bland but at least better than JT. | |
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Najee said: alphastreet said: "if you look at some of the dance steps mj did on the dangerous & history tours in addition to the ones before, usher took those and modified them with street influences which includes bobby brown, and he sorta jacks his wardrobe, stage set up(dancing behind the curtain the way mj often does at shows). If that 8701 tour poster of usher in the white wristband and big sunglasses doesn't remind you of the intro to the dangerous tour somewhat, then I don't know what it is..."
You didn't answer the question: What MUSICAL influences of Michael Jackson do you hear in Usher's music? Musically, Usher has far more in common with Bobby Brown. I think there a lot of false assumptions being made on the musical influence of Michael Jackson on Usher, because by the late 1980s Jackson had a very diminished impact on 1980s and early 1990s soul music. Most of his music wasn't being played in such markets and radio stations, as Jackson's music was too watered-down and artificial sounding -- not to mention way too accomodating to being crossover music, thus meeting resistance in such markets. Assuming that Usher had the typical music experience of most African-American kids (comtemporary soul, hip-hop) as a younger in the late 1980s, acts like Bobby Brown, New Edition and GUY were the ones he heard primarily -- acts in which I can hear and see music commonalities. If anything, Usher has more commonalities with MJ's sister, Janet (who also had all those attributes of MJ, plus her music was commonly played in aforementioned markets). [Edited 1/31/07 7:47am] I never thought MJ's music was "watered down"  , in fact, I remember growing up, Michael was more popular on R&B stations than pop, then again, I never considered him to be in one catergory. And as a breakdancer, MJ's music and dancing is a huge presence.[Edited 2/2/07 13:13pm] "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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^ good point | |
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