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Thread started 01/20/07 11:40am

TurnItUp

Is Usher jealous of Chris Browns' success

I really want to know because of his response on his last appearance on 106 & Park promoting Chicago when Rocsi asked him about how does he feel about these new cats that are out right now. He didn't say much, he had this look on his face because it wasn't about him anymore and then he smiled at the audience and said "Ya'll play with it, till I get back". I also heard that Chris Brown said he respects Usher's work, but he is not one of his idols(Go Chris!)

Three years ago it was all about Usher and his confessions. Two years after that here comes a younger,more attractive youngin on the scene with songs that sound similar to Yeah and Burn (Run It and Say Goodbye) doing the same shit Usher was doin and selling records. Usher how ya feel? lol
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Reply #1 posted 01/20/07 11:57am

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TurnItUp said:

I really want to know because of his response on his last appearance on 106 & Park promoting Chicago when Rocsi asked him about how does he feel about these new cats that are out right now. He didn't say much, he had this look on his face because it wasn't about him anymore and then he smiled at the audience and said "Ya'll play with it, till I get back". I also heard that Chris Brown said he respects Usher's work, but he is not one of his idols(Go Chris!)

Three years ago it was all about Usher and his confessions. Two years after that here comes a younger,more attractive youngin on the scene with songs that sound similar to Yeah and Burn (Run It and Say Goodbye) doing the same shit Usher was doin and selling records. Usher how ya feel? lol


Well thats really what it comes down too, contemp RB and Rap are really getting like Big time wrestling was in the 80's. Its all about whos wearing the belt now, doesnt matter that all the music sounds the same and it really doesnt matter who is singing it. Believe it or not Usher is looked at now, in the RB game, as Old already, thats the way it works now in Contemp RB, so he has a choice, come back and do something that everyone else is doing to fit in, or do something that will get you taken seriously at this point, casue till now i dont take Ne-Yo,Chris Brown,usher, Ciara or any other contemp RB artist serious, because i know next month there will be another one to fit the mold.

"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Reply #2 posted 01/20/07 12:54pm

novabrkr

Who the hell would be jealous of Chris Brown? Seriously. Is that even possible?
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Reply #3 posted 01/20/07 4:23pm

CinisterCee

How about Bobby Brown jealous of Chris Brown's success? In some stores he didn't even have a namecard in the R&B section. eek
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Reply #4 posted 01/20/07 4:25pm

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How about Bobby Brown jealous of Chris Brown's success? In some stores he didn't even have a namecard in the R&B section. eek


Well get used to that now with Tower gone and Sam goody almost gone, Best Buy only knows artists in the top 40 now.

"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Reply #5 posted 01/20/07 4:25pm

MikeMatronik

He should be jelous because my 12 year old sister loves Chris Brown!


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Reply #6 posted 01/20/07 4:45pm

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Chris looks so weedy though. I thought his demographic would like men who look hard and street or whatever. Maybe chris brown appeals to the under 10's as opposed to the teens?

I reckon Glenn Medeiros could have him LOL. He seems cool in interviews though. Usher is very aware of his sucsess. I hope Chris does not get too big headed, but his voice is soooo whiny and horrible sometimes.



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Reply #7 posted 01/20/07 5:54pm

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Who the hell would be jealous of Chris Brown? Seriously. Is that even possible?

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Reply #8 posted 01/20/07 6:54pm

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lastdecember said:

TurnItUp said:

I really want to know because of his response on his last appearance on 106 & Park promoting Chicago when Rocsi asked him about how does he feel about these new cats that are out right now. He didn't say much, he had this look on his face because it wasn't about him anymore and then he smiled at the audience and said "Ya'll play with it, till I get back". I also heard that Chris Brown said he respects Usher's work, but he is not one of his idols(Go Chris!)

Three years ago it was all about Usher and his confessions. Two years after that here comes a younger,more attractive youngin on the scene with songs that sound similar to Yeah and Burn (Run It and Say Goodbye) doing the same shit Usher was doin and selling records. Usher how ya feel? lol


Well thats really what it comes down too, contemp RB and Rap are really getting like Big time wrestling was in the 80's. Its all about whos wearing the belt now, doesnt matter that all the music sounds the same and it really doesnt matter who is singing it. Believe it or not Usher is looked at now, in the RB game, as Old already, thats the way it works now in Contemp RB, so he has a choice, come back and do something that everyone else is doing to fit in, or do something that will get you taken seriously at this point, casue till now i dont take Ne-Yo,Chris Brown,usher, Ciara or any other contemp RB artist serious, because i know next month there will be another one to fit the mold.
Very true. It must be hard for Usher. He's not even 30 years old.
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Reply #9 posted 01/20/07 7:14pm

lowkey

chris brown has not had the kinda success to pose any threat to usher, also he's a kid i would hope usher dont pay him much mind
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Reply #10 posted 01/20/07 11:10pm

JasonStar

Usher is way too arrogant for me. While I don't wish ill upon him, it would be funny if his next album flopped hard. biggrin
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Reply #11 posted 01/20/07 11:26pm

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i wouldn't doubt it. Usher has diarreah of the mouth when it comes to anyone else but him. i think it's biting him in the ass. he has 1 major hit album and thinks he's a legend. falloff and imo he has 1 maybe 2 good songs at all. like JasonStar said; i don't wish him any ill will, nor do i wish him any success. i don't like nasty people like him anyway biggrin


Chris Brown on the other hand woot! every song i've heard is good. he seems pretty humble about his success. and is a very good dancer. where as the mentioned above and his brother J.Timberlake rolleyes ...ah nevermind.



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Reply #12 posted 01/21/07 5:07am

KingKrazy

WHy would Usher be scared of a kid who only sold 1x platinum

Usher My Way sold 8x platinum
8701 sold 5x platinum
Confessions sold over diamond(10x platinum)

shit Usher Confessions probably outsold Chris Brown first LP whole chart run while it was out.

those Usher numbers put him on the pedestal to be cocky, and say what he wants if Usher was white he would be a bigger star, and that is true, Justin will never touch those numbers, but he is always crowned some king, point blank, Usher goes away for like three years and still puts up crazy numbers, i am not a fan, i feel he is a BObby Brown swagger jacker, but to deny this guys place in rnb history is nonsense, since 97 he has been the dominant male rnb superstar, who never gets his credit.
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Reply #13 posted 01/21/07 8:19am

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KingKrazy said:

WHy would Usher be scared of a kid who only sold 1x platinum

Usher My Way sold 8x platinum
8701 sold 5x platinum
Confessions sold over diamond(10x platinum)

shit Usher Confessions probably outsold Chris Brown first LP whole chart run while it was out.

those Usher numbers put him on the pedestal to be cocky, and say what he wants if Usher was white he would be a bigger star, and that is true, Justin will never touch those numbers, but he is always crowned some king, point blank, Usher goes away for like three years and still puts up crazy numbers, i am not a fan, i feel he is a BObby Brown swagger jacker, but to deny this guys place in rnb history is nonsense, since 97 he has been the dominant male rnb superstar, who never gets his credit.


His sales may be better than people in today's history but he isn't a legend. Check Michael's sales. Check's Prince's sales. Check Elvis' Sales. Check The Beatles Sale. Usher's place in pop history should be somewhere around where Bobby Brown is. And with the guy's attitude, he probably won't ever outsell Confessions. Not many people want to see a guy who is arrogant do good. I don't think race is as big of a deal as attitude. I respect Justin and I respect Chris Brown A LOT more than Usher, simply because, they are both a lot more humble about their success. Usher tries to always upstage people and it is sickening. Him and Beyonce really should get together. They love themselves so much - they'd be the perfect couple. Ick. Trust me, ten years from now, people will be saying, "Usher...?"whofarted
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Reply #14 posted 01/21/07 8:37am

Graycap23

Both are average or below so what difference does it MAKE?
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Reply #15 posted 01/21/07 9:17am

TonyVanDam

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Graycap23 said:

Both are average or below so what difference does it MAKE?


Along with The Beetles & The Bee Gees, Usher is the only other artist to ever had 3 hits song with the Billboards USA Top 100 Singles Chart within the same week (Yeah, Burn, & Confession [Remix]).

Therefore, we can't call Usher "average".
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Reply #16 posted 01/21/07 9:22am

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KingKrazy said:

WHy would Usher be scared of a kid who only sold 1x platinum

Usher My Way sold 8x platinum
8701 sold 5x platinum
Confessions sold over diamond(10x platinum)


shit Usher Confessions probably outsold Chris Brown first LP whole chart run while it was out.

those Usher numbers put him on the pedestal to be cocky, and say what he wants if Usher was white he would be a bigger star, and that is true, Justin will never touch those numbers, but he is always crowned some king, point blank, Usher goes away for like three years and still puts up crazy numbers, i am not a fan, i feel he is a BObby Brown swagger jacker, but to deny this guys place in rnb history is nonsense, since 97 he has been the dominant male rnb superstar, who never gets his credit.


And don't forget about Usher's self-titled debut album that BARELY sold close to 500,000 copies. So even know that Chris Brown's debut sold better than Usher's, it'll be interesting to see what kind of impact Chris makes in the future.
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Reply #17 posted 01/21/07 9:27am

MikeMatronik

It's time to say that I don't Usher and Chris Brown. They are so...McDonald's. The same restaurants, the some burgers...but on diferent locations! confused
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Reply #18 posted 01/21/07 9:36am

Graycap23

TonyVanDam said:

Graycap23 said:

Both are average or below so what difference does it MAKE?


Along with The Beetles & The Bee Gees, Usher is the only other artist to ever had 3 hits song with the Billboards USA Top 100 Singles Chart within the same week (Yeah, Burn, & Confession [Remix]).

Therefore, we can't call Usher "average".
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Are u looking at stats or LISTENING 2 him sing?
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Reply #19 posted 01/21/07 9:39am

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Graycap23 said:

TonyVanDam said:



Along with The Beetles & The Bee Gees, Usher is the only other artist to ever had 3 hits song with the Billboards USA Top 100 Singles Chart within the same week (Yeah, Burn, & Confession [Remix]).

Therefore, we can't call Usher "average".
wink

Are u looking at stats or LISTENING 2 him sing?


Tony must be only talking about the stats. I don't see tony listening to Usher! eek
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Reply #20 posted 01/21/07 9:57am

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TonyVanDam said:

Graycap23 said:

Both are average or below so what difference does it MAKE?


Along with The Beetles & The Bee Gees, Usher is the only other artist to ever had 3 hits song with the Billboards USA Top 100 Singles Chart within the same week (Yeah, Burn, & Confession [Remix]).

Therefore, we can't call Usher "average".
wink



This is probably a bit off topic, but are you sure that list is extensive? Not trying to be an a-hole or anything, but I just read the following article, so the issue was on my mind:

Also making news this week is Justin Timberlake, who becomes the first lead artist since 50 Cent in May 2005 to boast three songs within the Hot 100's top 20. "What Goes Around ... Comes Around" rises 21-12 to join the prior No. 1 hits "My Love" (6-8) and "Sexyback" (13-16) in the chart's upper fifth.


http://www.billboard.com/...1003534543
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Reply #21 posted 01/21/07 10:27am

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vanity69 said:

TonyVanDam said:



Along with The Beetles & The Bee Gees, Usher is the only other artist to ever had 3 hits song with the Billboards USA Top 100 Singles Chart within the same week (Yeah, Burn, & Confession [Remix]).

Therefore, we can't call Usher "average".
wink



This is probably a bit off topic, but are you sure that list is extensive? Not trying to be an a-hole or anything, but I just read the following article, so the issue was on my mind:

Also making news this week is Justin Timberlake, who becomes the first lead artist since 50 Cent in May 2005 to boast three songs within the Hot 100's top 20. "What Goes Around ... Comes Around" rises 21-12 to join the prior No. 1 hits "My Love" (6-8) and "Sexyback" (13-16) in the chart's upper fifth.


http://www.billboard.com/...1003534543



I stand correct. You're right and I forgot about Justin & 50.

That makes 5 artists to ever have 3 songs in the Top 10 of The Hot 100 Singles Charts:

The Beatles
The Bee Gees
Usher
50 Cent*
Justin Timberlake


* The Game appear in 2 of those songs.
[Edited 1/21/07 10:29am]
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Reply #22 posted 01/21/07 10:36am

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TonyVanDam said:

vanity69 said:




This is probably a bit off topic, but are you sure that list is extensive? Not trying to be an a-hole or anything, but I just read the following article, so the issue was on my mind:

Also making news this week is Justin Timberlake, who becomes the first lead artist since 50 Cent in May 2005 to boast three songs within the Hot 100's top 20. "What Goes Around ... Comes Around" rises 21-12 to join the prior No. 1 hits "My Love" (6-8) and "Sexyback" (13-16) in the chart's upper fifth.


http://www.billboard.com/...1003534543



I stand correct. You're right and I forgot about Justin & 50.

That makes 5 artists to ever have 3 songs in the Top 10 of The Hot 100 Singles Charts:

The Beatles
The Bee Gees
Usher
50 Cent*
Justin Timberlake


* The Game appear in 2 of those songs.
[Edited 1/21/07 10:29am]


Sure Donna Summer isn't in that mix? I know she had had two songs in the Top 3 once, or something to that effect.
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Reply #23 posted 01/21/07 11:29am

TurnItUp

novabrkr said:

Who the hell would be jealous of Chris Brown? Seriously. Is that even possible?


Yeah it's very possible, especially when somebody like Usher who thought every woman was scream for HIM and HIM ONLY until you forget that there is always a newcomer to steal your shine and especially when the newcomers songs sound similar to yours. That was Mariah's problem back when she had her so called meltdown.
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Reply #24 posted 01/21/07 12:54pm

CinisterCee

Graycap23 said:

Both are average or below so what difference does it MAKE?


hey Graycap, did you like Bobby Brown though?
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Reply #25 posted 01/21/07 3:31pm

datdude

have you guys lost sight of the "pop music cycle?!". usher's Confessions was a MONSTER; close to "diamond" status last time i checked (10 million sales) so it's only NATURAL for there to be a layoff and thus an opportunity for new cats to come along and sell some records.

remember when u had a GOOD album, u went 5-6 singles deep into it. WITH VIDEOS. that's MONTHS on the charts, easily a year and a half possibly. throw in a TOUR too, and heck it IS three years later. only recently have we seen an album a year, two in some cases from established artists. the idea used to be; do it BIG, give fans a chance to miss you and come back. like Alicia Keys is doing now. Like Justin did (before his latest), etc. etc. I don't care for or have any of these artists music, but you can't "fall off" if your last album sold close to 10 mil and now you're chillin,' taking your time to do a quality follow-up..

as it relates to whether Usher is jealous, again, i don't follow the guys interviews, etc. but if he's an insecure male diva, yeah. if he's the man he claims to be, no.
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Reply #26 posted 01/21/07 4:21pm

TonyVanDam

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VinnyM27 said:

TonyVanDam said:




I stand correct. You're right and I forgot about Justin & 50.

That makes 5 artists to ever have 3 songs in the Top 10 of The Hot 100 Singles Charts:

The Beatles
The Bee Gees
Usher
50 Cent*
Justin Timberlake


* The Game appear in 2 of those songs.
[Edited 1/21/07 10:29am]


Sure Donna Summer isn't in that mix? I know she had had two songs in the Top 3 once, or something to that effect.


Hot Stuff & Bad Girl were in the top 10 on the same week. But that's only 2 songs.

By the time Turn On The Lights enter Top 10, I think Bad Girl was already drop down the charts.
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Reply #27 posted 01/21/07 5:05pm

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novabrkr said:

Who the hell would be jealous of Chris Brown? Seriously. Is that even possible?

lol lol lol
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Reply #28 posted 01/21/07 5:06pm

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CinisterCee said:

How about Bobby Brown jealous of Chris Brown's success? In some stores he didn't even have a namecard in the R&B section. eek


lol lol lol lol lol
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Reply #29 posted 01/22/07 5:09am

Graycap23

CinisterCee said:

Graycap23 said:

Both are average or below so what difference does it MAKE?


hey Graycap, did you like Bobby Brown though?



Bobby was LUCKY 2 work with Teddy Riley when he did. The guy could NEVER sing.
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