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Printablevainandy said: Hell fuckin' naw! That bitch's music is weak and always has been. Tina made hard ass music. Mary J. Blige couldn't make hard music if she wanted to.
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badujunkie said: FUCKING HELL NO!
no no no. I can't believe the blasphemy of this thread 
1. Tina sings on key 2. Tina can sell out soccer stadiums and arenas. 3. Tina has never been a coke whore 4. Tina was never just an urban artist (solo). Her catalog encompasses rock, pop, etc. 5. Tina is a fucking ICON around the GLOBE. 6. She can dance. 7. Her records use live instruments. 8. She's fucking...TINA TURNER.
Not to take anything away from Mary J...she's had a brilliant career on her own, staying power, a great run, is still on top of her game, especially in today's climate...but Tina she aint. Good Answer #2 | |
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isthisdadawn said: dancerella said: maybe so but what you don't understand is that when she tried to make a happier album people didn't like it. i don't see anything wrong with expressing yourself through pain and real life experiences. [Edited 1/25/07 10:59am] ACTUALLY U R wrong! BREAKTHROUGH is 2X platinum and since her MARY album from 99 her records sales have pretty much been equal or higher. 5x platinum for NO MORE DRAMA..released aug 28th, 2001.. her higest selling album to date. I was not a fan of MARY's work till 99 Her enlightenment is a lesson so many people can learn from. She decided to not continue living for misery or the people thriving from her pain. She took her pain and turned it into power.Therefore jeopardizing her fame and succuss, I commnend her.. so people can say what they wanna say.. but AT THE END OF THE DAY.. she is just MARY.. TAKE HER AS SHE IS OR HAVING NOTHING..She is a motivator and an true example of a beautiful, intelligent black woman. [Edited 1/25/07 14:37pm] Mary debut album (What's The 411?) is her only classic. | |
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nurse said: Hell Naw x's 2
Co-sign! "The first time I saw the cover of Dirty Mind in the early 80s I thought, 'Is this some drag queen ripping on Freddie Prinze?'" - Some guy on The Gear Page | |
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NO ONE COMPARES TO ANNA MAE BULLOCK!!!!! NO ONE!!!!!
DON'T DO IT EVER AGAIN!!!!!  | |
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Am I the only person in the history of the universe who prefers Mary to Tina or Aretha? Should I be afraid of y'all? | |
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TonyVanDam said: Mary debut album (What's The 411?) is her only classic.
Love that one, but I'll go with My Life as her best album. In fact, I'd go so far as to call it the best ever use of sampling in R&B. "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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GangstaFam said: Am I the only person in the history of the universe who prefers Mary to Tina or Aretha? Should I be afraid of y'all?
Yes and yes. "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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AlexdeParis said: Yes and yes.
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AlexdeParis said: TonyVanDam said: Mary debut album (What's The 411?) is her only classic.
Love that one, but I'll go with My Life as her best album. In fact, I'd go so far as to call it the best ever use of sampling in R&B. MY LIFE is DEFINITELY HER "DEFINING" CD!!!!! THEN "411"!!!!! | |
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current day Mary reminds me of
Natalie Cole when the 80's started to approach (minus the drugs) how her sound kind of crossed over... i.e. Natalie remade "L.S.D." (Beatles), "Cry Baby" (Janis) Mary remade "One" (U2), "Piece Of My Heart" (Janis) I just see certain similarities because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." | |
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GangstaFam said: Am I the only person in the history of the universe who prefers Mary to Tina or Aretha? Should I be afraid of y'all?
nope i agree with you 100%, i think they are overrated. | |
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Is Mary J. the modern-day Tina Turner? To quote Whitney Houston, "HELL TO THE NO!" THE TRAFFIC JAMMERS, The Org's house band: VAINANDY -- lead singer; NAJEE -- bass; THE AUDIENCE -- guitar; PHUNKDADDY -- rhythm guitar; ALEX de PARIS -- keyboards; Da PRETTYMAN -- keyboards; FUNKENSTEIN -- drums. HOLD ON TO YOUR DRAWERS! | |
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lowkey said: nope i agree with you 100%, i think they are overrated.
I mean, I realize they're legends and everything. But I just haven't connected with their music yet in the same way I have with Mary's. | |
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Have any of you guys even seen the DVD I'm referring too?? I agreed that starting out her live vocals were horrible, but that far from the truth now. Maybe it was that one night but Mary was tearing down the house.
And most want to attack for singing songs that seem depressing?? At least she wrote most of her catalog. Did Tina write even 10% of any of her mega hits?? I always have alot more respect for artist when the material they perform come from their heart and not somebody else's head. Share My World was one of the most powerful from Mary that stays with me from this day. And her band on stage is a bad as any I've heard in a while and I've been a performing musician for over 13 years. On more than four instruments. So I kinda know something about music. All of your opinions still matter so thanks for posting. | |
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vainandy said: dancerella said:
nah, i would say beyonce reminds me more of tina. She's FAR from Tina also. Tina was rock. Beyonce is weak shit hop sounding R&B. Whats wrong with R&B? | |
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GangstaFam said: lowkey said: nope i agree with you 100%, i think they are overrated. 
I mean, I realize they're legends and everything. But I just haven't connected with their music yet in the same way I have with Mary's.
I'm hoping that just means you're relatively new to those two. As much as I love Mary, I don't think she's ever sold anything like, say, "I Never Loved a Man the Way That I Love You," "Do Right Woman, Do Right Man," "River Deep, Mountain High" or "Proud Mary." Aretha and Tina are as popular and influential as they are for a reason; they are the Big Two. "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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TonyVanDam said: isthisdadawn said: ACTUALLY U R wrong! BREAKTHROUGH is 2X platinum and since her MARY album from 99 her records sales have pretty much been equal or higher. 5x platinum for NO MORE DRAMA..released aug 28th, 2001.. her higest selling album to date. I was not a fan of MARY's work till 99 Her enlightenment is a lesson so many people can learn from. She decided to not continue living for misery or the people thriving from her pain. She took her pain and turned it into power.Therefore jeopardizing her fame and succuss, I commnend her.. so people can say what they wanna say.. but AT THE END OF THE DAY.. she is just MARY.. TAKE HER AS SHE IS OR HAVING NOTHING..She is a motivator and an true example of a beautiful, intelligent black woman. [Edited 1/25/07 14:37pm] Mary debut album (What's The 411?) is her only classic. Her album Mary its her definitve classic imo "Todo está bien chévere" Stevie | |
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lonelygurl8305 said: vainandy said: She's FAR from Tina also. Tina was rock. Beyonce is weak shit hop sounding R&B. Whats wrong with R&B? When it stood for Rhythm & Blues? Nothing!!! Now it just stands for Rhythm-less Bullshit and it STINKS!!! | |
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Is Mary J. Blige a modern day Tina Turner??
NO! Next question... | |
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AlexdeParis said:[quote] GangstaFam said:
I mean, I realize they're legends and everything. But I just haven't connected with their music yet in the same way I have with Mary's.
I'm hoping that just means you're relatively new to those two. As much as I love Mary, I don't think she's ever sold anything like, say, "I Never Loved a Man the Way That I Love You," "Do Right Woman, Do Right Man," "River Deep, Mountain High" or "Proud Mary." Aretha and Tina are as popular and influential as they are for a reason; they are the Big Two. I know them well enough. But I've been following Mary since day one. She's one of my very favorites. | |
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GangstaFam said: AlexdeParis said: I'm hoping that just means you're relatively new to those two. As much as I love Mary, I don't think she's ever sold anything like, say, "I Never Loved a Man the Way That I Love You," "Do Right Woman, Do Right Man," "River Deep, Mountain High" or "Proud Mary." Aretha and Tina are as popular and influential as they are for a reason; they are the Big Two. I know them well enough. But I've been following Mary since day one. She's one of my very favorites. I like your unapologetic tone. | |
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RipHer2Shreds said: I like your unapologetic tone.
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lonelygurl8305 said: vainandy said: She's FAR from Tina also. Tina was rock. Beyonce is weak shit hop sounding R&B. Whats wrong with R&B? There's nothing wrong with R&B as long as it's R&B. When it's shit hop sounding, there's plenty wrong with it. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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SexyBeautifulOne said: lonelygurl8305 said: Whats wrong with R&B? When it stood for Rhythm & Blues? Nothing!!! Now it just stands for Rhythm-less Bullshit and it STINKS!!! I love your post and I'm going to start using that phrase!!!!! Current R&B = Rhythmless Bullshit You are very correct! Andy is a four letter word. | |
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missfee said: dancerella said: maybe so but what you don't understand is that when she tried to make a happier album people didn't like it. i don't see anything wrong with expressing yourself through pain and real life experiences. [Edited 1/25/07 10:59am] no actually i do understand. and when exactly was this so-called "happy" album? no there's nothing wrong with expressing yourself through your pain and real life experiences, but damn i don't want to hear you whine about your life for almost 15 years....when you go through pain, don't want to see and feel the sunshine at the end of the tunnel? well why not sing about that then. that's all i'm saying... maybe this is why the last album i bought of hers was "mary"... i think it was her last album that was supposedly happier but it didn't do as well. so i guess people respond to her more when she's in pain. | |
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RipHer2Shreds said: ThePunisher said: And what's more impressive is that Tina's had a harder life then Mary has. Yet you don't get that depressive vibe from her. MJB is nowhere near being in Tina's league.
Wow. We're really going to boil it down to who's life was riddled with more abuse?  That's kinda sad, really. | |
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SexyBeautifulOne said: lonelygurl8305 said: Whats wrong with R&B? When it stood for Rhythm & Blues? Nothing!!! Now it just stands for Rhythm-less Bullshit and it STINKS!!!  | |
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GangstaFam said: AlexdeParis said: I'm hoping that just means you're relatively new to those two. As much as I love Mary, I don't think she's ever sold anything like, say, "I Never Loved a Man the Way That I Love You," "Do Right Woman, Do Right Man," "River Deep, Mountain High" or "Proud Mary." Aretha and Tina are as popular and influential as they are for a reason; they are the Big Two. I know them well enough. But I've been following Mary since day one. She's one of my very favorites. I've been following Mary as long as you have. "I'll Do 4 U," "You Remind Me"... good times, good times. "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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