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FUNKADELIC Historians.. I currently own "Standing On The Verge", "One Nation Under A Groove", "Uncle Jam Wants You", "Funkadelic", "Free Your Mind", "Maggot Brain" and the "Live-1971" CD. I recently bought the AMERICA EATS ITS YOUNG and I notice that the rock element was GREATLY decreased.  Strings and horns took its place. The question is, WHY? What happened to Eddie Hazel on this album? There are some great songs on the album such as "I Call My Baby..", "Hit the Nail On the Head", "Miss Lucifer's Lave" but I miss the up front and in your face ROCK sound that I come to love with the prior Funkadelic releases. This album was a jolt for me. Where's my rock and guitar. Where's Eddie.
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LoveAlive said: I currently own "Standing On The Verge", "One Nation Under A Groove", "Uncle Jam Wants You", "Funkadelic", "Free Your Mind", "Maggot Brain" and the "Live-1971" CD. I recently bought the AMERICA EATS ITS YOUNG and I notice that the rock element was GREATLY decreased.
Strings and horns took its place. The question is, WHY? What happened to Eddie Hazel on this album? There are some great songs on the album such as "I Call My Baby..", "Hit the Nail On the Head", "Miss Lucifer's Lave" but I miss the up front and in your face ROCK sound that I come to love with the prior Funkadelic releases. This album was a jolt for me. Where's my rock and guitar. Where's Eddie.
What was going on with Funkadelic on this album? WHATEVER was goin' on at the time, they came back around with "Cosmic Slop" and "Standing On The Verge"!!!!! | |
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woogiebear said: LoveAlive said: I currently own "Standing On The Verge", "One Nation Under A Groove", "Uncle Jam Wants You", "Funkadelic", "Free Your Mind", "Maggot Brain" and the "Live-1971" CD. I recently bought the AMERICA EATS ITS YOUNG and I notice that the rock element was GREATLY decreased.
Strings and horns took its place. The question is, WHY? What happened to Eddie Hazel on this album? There are some great songs on the album such as "I Call My Baby..", "Hit the Nail On the Head", "Miss Lucifer's Lave" but I miss the up front and in your face ROCK sound that I come to love with the prior Funkadelic releases. This album was a jolt for me. Where's my rock and guitar. Where's Eddie.
What was going on with Funkadelic on this album? WHATEVER was goin' on at the time, they came back around with "Cosmic Slop" and "Standing On The Verge"!!!!! I dont own COSMIC SLOP but "Standing on the Verge" was the rock/funk blend the I LOVE. Its there a little on AMERICA EATS ITS YOUNG but its not like it was on their previous albums... | |
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LoveAlive said: woogiebear said: WHATEVER was goin' on at the time, they came back around with "Cosmic Slop" and "Standing On The Verge"!!!!! I dont own COSMIC SLOP but "Standing on the Verge" was the rock/funk blend the I LOVE. Its there a little on AMERICA EATS ITS YOUNG but its not like it was on their previous albums... My big sisters had a 45 with "Standing On The Verge"/"Jimmy's Got A Little Bit Of Bitch In Him". I WORE THAT SINGLE OUT!!!!! Later in life, I paid a COOL $25 for the whole LP!!!!! WORTH EVERY PENNY!!!!!  | |
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moderatorI think the evolution of the group is what marked the differences in sound...let's just say they were experimenting.
I think it is one of their finer albums (ok, maybe not compared to the PHONK that followed). They never got away from the true formula of their beginnings, but broadened their horizons as time went by... They will ALWAYS be one of my faves...after P of course. Be sure to pick up Cosmic Slop...you won't be disappointed. [Edited 1/19/07 18:56pm] | |
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AURA712 said: I think the evolution of the group is what marked the differences in sound...let's just say they were experimenting.
I think it is one of their finer albums (ok, maybe not compared to the PHONK that followed). They never got away from the true formula of their beginnings, but broadened their horizons as time went by... They will ALWAYS be one of my faves...after P of course. Be sure to pick up Cosmic Slop...you won't be disappointed. [Edited 1/19/07 18:56pm] Plus the arrival of Mr. William "Bootsy" Collins enhance their sound.
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Thank goodness I'm not a completionist anymore. | |
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"America Eats It's Young" still rocks in my opinion (even tho' there's not a lot of heavy guitar on it). It's the songs and concept of the LP that hits me. I'm surprised "America" hasn't been turned into a broadway show. The songs really sound like they belong in a musical. | |
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It was the personnel shift. Eddie Hazel and Billy 'Bass' Nelson, the core of the early psychedlic rock/soul sound, left Funkadelic over money disputes, and guitarist Tawl Ross was on the sidelines after a bad acid trip. At this point George dedcided to go in a slightly different direction with the Funkadelic sound, and brought in the Collins brothers, William ('Bootsy') and Phelps ('Catfish'). He also brought in guitarist/ vocalist Garry Shider, and this all made a difference in the sound. But Bootsy and catfish left right after America Eats its Young, only to return later as part of the core of the new version of Parliament (and a Young Mike Hampton stepped in to take over Hazel's place as the Funkadelic guitar juggernaut (though Hazel woud return on and off in the coming years). From then on, the more funky, soulful music (with the Horns) would generally be under the Parliament name, and the rock-funk oriented material would be back under Funkadelic... ... [Edited 1/20/07 10:27am] " I've got six things on my mind --you're no longer one of them." - Paddy McAloon, Prefab Sprout | |
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It was the personnel shift. Eddie Hazel and Billy 'Bass' Nelson, the core of the early psychedlic rock/soul sound, left Funkadelic over money disputes, and guitarist Tawl Ross was on the sidelines after a bad acid trip. At this point George dedcided to go in a slightly different direction with the Funkadelic sound, and brought in the Collins brothers, William ('Bootsy') and Phelps ('Catfish'). He also brought in guitarist/ vocalist Garry Shider, and this all made a difference in the sound. But Bootsy and catfish left right after America Eats its Young, only to return later as part of the core of the new version of Parliament (and a Young Mike Hampton stepped in to take over Hazel's place as the Funkadelic guitar juggernaut (though Hazel woud return on and off in the coming years). From then on, the more funky, soulful music (with the Horns) would generally be under the Parliament name, and the rock- oriented material would be back under Funkadelic... ... [Edited 1/20/07 9:13am] OK cool..so "Cosmic Slop" and "Hardocre Jollies" return back to the hard rock/funk blend? I just want to say that I dont HATE the AMERICA EATS ITS YOUNG album. It just caught me off guard. Additional singers were brought in and it seemed like the rock element was decreased a lot while harmonious singing, horns and strings were brought in. The songwriting is still at its best. I love "If You Dont Like The Effects Dont Produce The Cause" | |
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novabrkr said: Thank goodness I'm not a completionist anymore.
ROTFL! | |
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LoveAlive said: OK cool..so "Cosmic Slop" and "Hardocre Jollies" return back to the hard rock/funk blend? Yup!! along with 'Let's Take it to the Stage' and 'Standing on the Verge' ... [Edited 1/20/07 9:41am] " I've got six things on my mind --you're no longer one of them." - Paddy McAloon, Prefab Sprout | |
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novabrkr said: Thank goodness I'm not a completionist anymore.
I didn't even know that was a word.  "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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minneapolisgenius said: novabrkr said: Thank goodness I'm not a completionist anymore.
I didn't even know that was a word. RROOTTFFLL!  | |
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I've got to get into
this America Eats Its Young album I gave it a spin maybe thrice all the way through since I found it because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." | |
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I always thought the title track was kind of a waste. [Edited 1/20/07 10:37am] I DON'T WANT TO BE NORMAL,because normal is part of the status quo,which I don't want to be a part of- Tori Amos | |
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gypsyfire said: I always thought the title track was kind of a waste.
[Edited 1/20/07 10:37am] Yea, it was a bit underwhelming..it sounds like a half hearted MAGGOT BRAIN | |
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LoveAlive said: gypsyfire said: I always thought the title track was kind of a waste.
[Edited 1/20/07 10:37am] Yea, it was a bit underwhelming..it sounds like a half hearted MAGGOT BRAIN I love it. I love all the moaning in the background like an orgy in the studio. This was the first time the "who is this bitch" speech was used. The title track America Eats Its Young right? | |
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minneapolisgenius said: novabrkr said: Thank goodness I'm not a completionist anymore.
I didn't even know that was a word. It's been used by record collectors for decades. | |
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novabrkr said: minneapolisgenius said: I didn't even know that was a word. It's been used by record collectors for decades. I never talk to record collectors. "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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Record collectors usually don't have highly active social lives. | |
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novabrkr said: Record collectors usually don't have highly active social lives.
Neither do I. Maybe I should become one.  "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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LoveAlive said: I currently own "Standing On The Verge", "One Nation Under A Groove", "Uncle Jam Wants You", "Funkadelic", "Free Your Mind", "Maggot Brain" and the "Live-1971" CD. I recently bought the AMERICA EATS ITS YOUNG and I notice that the rock element was GREATLY decreased.
Strings and horns took its place. The question is, WHY? What happened to Eddie Hazel on this album? There are some great songs on the album such as "I Call My Baby..", "Hit the Nail On the Head", "Miss Lucifer's Lave" but I miss the up front and in your face ROCK sound that I come to love with the prior Funkadelic releases. This album was a jolt for me. Where's my rock and guitar. Where's Eddie.
What was going on with Funkadelic on this album? YOU ARE MISSING ONE OF THE GREATEST OF ALL FUNKADELIC LPS----LET'S TAKE IT TO THE STAGE. THE LP HAS HARD ROCK ELEMENTS THROUGHOUT EVEN ON THE FUNKY RECORDS. AMERICA EATS IT'S YOUNG IS SORT OF A KNOD TO THE BEATLES SGT. PEPPER. IT HAS THAT BEATLES VIBE TO IT. IT'S ONE OF MY FAVORITE FUNKADELIC RELEASES. | |
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Thumparello said: LoveAlive said: I currently own "Standing On The Verge", "One Nation Under A Groove", "Uncle Jam Wants You", "Funkadelic", "Free Your Mind", "Maggot Brain" and the "Live-1971" CD. I recently bought the AMERICA EATS ITS YOUNG and I notice that the rock element was GREATLY decreased.
Strings and horns took its place. The question is, WHY? What happened to Eddie Hazel on this album? There are some great songs on the album such as "I Call My Baby..", "Hit the Nail On the Head", "Miss Lucifer's Lave" but I miss the up front and in your face ROCK sound that I come to love with the prior Funkadelic releases. This album was a jolt for me. Where's my rock and guitar. Where's Eddie.
What was going on with Funkadelic on this album? YOU ARE MISSING ONE OF THE GREATEST OF ALL FUNKADELIC LPS----LET'S TAKE IT TO THE STAGE. THE LP HAS HARD ROCK ELEMENTS THROUGHOUT EVEN ON THE FUNKY RECORDS. AMERICA EATS IT'S YOUNG IS SORT OF A KNOD TO THE BEATLES SGT. PEPPER. IT HAS THAT BEATLES VIBE TO IT. IT'S ONE OF MY FAVORITE FUNKADELIC RELEASES. Laughin' atcha..... HAH gawd i love that | |
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Thumparello said: LoveAlive said: I currently own "Standing On The Verge", "One Nation Under A Groove", "Uncle Jam Wants You", "Funkadelic", "Free Your Mind", "Maggot Brain" and the "Live-1971" CD. I recently bought the AMERICA EATS ITS YOUNG and I notice that the rock element was GREATLY decreased.
Strings and horns took its place. The question is, WHY? What happened to Eddie Hazel on this album? There are some great songs on the album such as "I Call My Baby..", "Hit the Nail On the Head", "Miss Lucifer's Lave" but I miss the up front and in your face ROCK sound that I come to love with the prior Funkadelic releases. This album was a jolt for me. Where's my rock and guitar. Where's Eddie.
What was going on with Funkadelic on this album? YOU ARE MISSING ONE OF THE GREATEST OF ALL FUNKADELIC LPS----LET'S TAKE IT TO THE STAGE. THE LP HAS HARD ROCK ELEMENTS THROUGHOUT EVEN ON THE FUNKY RECORDS. AMERICA EATS IT'S YOUNG IS SORT OF A KNOD TO THE BEATLES SGT. PEPPER. IT HAS THAT BEATLES VIBE TO IT. IT'S ONE OF MY FAVORITE FUNKADELIC RELEASES. Yea, LETS TAKE IT TO THE STAGE is on the list to buy.....I'm tryna buy them in order so COSMIC SLOP is next, then Ima go back and get the OSMIUM CD by Parliament. I heard that is more FUNAKDELIC styled... | |
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LoveAlive said: I currently own "Standing On The Verge", "One Nation Under A Groove", "Uncle Jam Wants You", "Funkadelic", "Free Your Mind", "Maggot Brain" and the "Live-1971" CD. I recently bought the AMERICA EATS ITS YOUNG and I notice that the rock element was GREATLY decreased.
Strings and horns took its place. The question is, WHY? What happened to Eddie Hazel on this album? There are some great songs on the album such as "I Call My Baby..", "Hit the Nail On the Head", "Miss Lucifer's Lave" but I miss the up front and in your face ROCK sound that I come to love with the prior Funkadelic releases. This album was a jolt for me. Where's my rock and guitar. Where's Eddie.
What was going on with Funkadelic on this album? A couple of things happen at the time of AEIY. First off this is the first of Bootsy's involvement, but it's much more minimal compared to Bernie's development as an arranger of other musical elements. Eddie was on the outs with George.(Billy too I think). Eddie is briefly back on SOTV. test | |
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It was the personnel shift. ...Billy 'Bass' Nelson, the core of the early psychedlic rock/soul sound, left Funkadelic over money disputes,[/b] Agreed. I tend to credit Bily with that bluesier psychedelic feel of the early albums. test | |
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PFunkjazz said: LoveAlive said: I currently own "Standing On The Verge", "One Nation Under A Groove", "Uncle Jam Wants You", "Funkadelic", "Free Your Mind", "Maggot Brain" and the "Live-1971" CD. I recently bought the AMERICA EATS ITS YOUNG and I notice that the rock element was GREATLY decreased.
Strings and horns took its place. The question is, WHY? What happened to Eddie Hazel on this album? There are some great songs on the album such as "I Call My Baby..", "Hit the Nail On the Head", "Miss Lucifer's Lave" but I miss the up front and in your face ROCK sound that I come to love with the prior Funkadelic releases. This album was a jolt for me. Where's my rock and guitar. Where's Eddie.
What was going on with Funkadelic on this album? A couple of things happen at the time of AEIY. First off this is the first of Bootsy's involvement, but it's much more minimal compared to Bernie's development as an arranger of other musical elements. Eddie was on the outs with George.(Billy too I think). Eddie is briefly back on SOTV. Ok thanks for the info... Have you heard anything on a live CD with the orig lineup of Funkadelic? | |
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You mean something from the archives or a reunion?
The former is a very remote possibility, but it really depends on what you call the original lineup. There are the Sugar Shack tapes from eary70s, but they are not great recordings in terms of audio quality. Maybe some remastering touh-ups can fix it up Technically, the latter is a total impossiblity since all orignal Funkadelics except Billy Nelson have passed. What fill-ins would be acceptable? test | |
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