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PrintableMara said: NorthernLad said: Fans love them. Put them out on iTunes with b-sides and bonus tracks, and make people buy the entire single (for, say, $3.99 or $4.99) to get the bonus material. Do videos for them.
It's a no-brainer IMHO. If I'm a 19-year-old college kid who's going to class and paying for groceries and beer with work-study money then I'm'a get the latest 50 Cent or Killers track off of Adam or Josh or Brian's PC down the hall and burn it on a Maxell CD-R. I'd rather use that cash for a case of Coronas when me and my buds watch the Colbert Report. Which is my point, dont target the youth audience, stop spending millions on marketing the new 50 cent record and then it sells half a million and everyone at the label is crying foul. Change your target audience, sure kids buy music, but alot more people 25+ buy it more loyally. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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AlexdeParis said: DMSR said: I was in the music biz in the 90's, I know why we stopped releasing singles- because there just too much product and not enough good albums. There was a ton of 1 hit wonders, remember "I Get Knocked Down" by chumbawumba? or "I just wanna Fly" by Sugar Ray? Sugar Ray had hit albums later but that cd, had 1 song and the rest was more punk. Labels were making $15 bucks for the new CD technology and didnt want to lose money on singles. The bands just sucked for the most part.
There are one-hit wonders in every era. The problem is that the record companies wanted to make people buy an album full of crap to get one good song. The strategy appears to have backfired. I hate having to spend extra money importing CD singles just to get B-sides from my favorite artists. BTW, those songs were "Tubthumping" and "Fly." Yea I know there were always one hit wonders, but it seemed alot of those bands they were promoting were pure crap. They were just milking it, and getting rid of the single was really them just admitting they were getting greedy cause there was no real music. In the 80's you had plenty of 1 hit wonders, but you also had the acts like Prince, Bruce, MJ, Madonna, Bowie, Police, etc. to sell the albums. In the early to mid 90's, except for grunge and Dre/Snoop, there didnt seeem to be too much goin on. [Edited 1/24/07 19:03pm] ______________________________________________
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lastdecember said: Najee said: That's the other thing about not releasing singles -- it gave the artists, producers, ect. an opportunity to update or invigorate an either bland or overly played song via a remix. Artists like Janet Jackson and Mariah Carey had remixed versions of latest songs that a lot of people bought. You can name plenty of examples where remixes of a song literally made some rather tired songs sizable hits.
Singles are a huge market overseas still to this day and its really always been that way, tons of remixes,bsides,unreleased tracks etc..it just seems to be marketed very well over there and always has. I just think the USA gave up on it, but it really should have kept it going especially for artists that have loyal fan bases, like Mariah,janet,Madonna etc..... I'm really surprised 2 hear they don't release singles in the US!!! Like U said;PCD sell tons of singles here. If there's no single released,NO airplay.It's as simple as that. Downloading is a problem,all though I can buy a single-download 4 only 1Euro, there's still the problem I can't burn it on a CD! So I have 2 look somewhere else so I can download AND listen 2 it in my car. It's a fact that singles drown the attention 2 a new album, I even bought George Michael's Easier afair because it was released months be4 25 came out.Mariah had her comeback in Europe thanx 2 the airplay=singles. Hung Up from Madonna was the reason her album climbed the charts. I remember I bought every Prince single,12" and then the album. Anyway,here the singles-charts are still important,evry radio channel in the weekend has their chart and in record stores they are on display. [Edited 1/25/07 14:50pm] Love4oneanother | |
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Paisley4u said: lastdecember said: Singles are a huge market overseas still to this day and its really always been that way, tons of remixes,bsides,unreleased tracks etc..it just seems to be marketed very well over there and always has. I just think the USA gave up on it, but it really should have kept it going especially for artists that have loyal fan bases, like Mariah,janet,Madonna etc..... I'm really surprised 2 hear they don't release singles in the US!!! Like U said;PCD sell tons of singles here. If there's no single released,NO airplay.It's as simple as that. Downloading is a problem,all though I can buy a single-download 4 only 1Euro, there's still the problem I can't burn it on a CD! So I have 2 look somewhere else so I can download AND listen 2 it in my car. It's a fact that singles drown the attention 2 a new album, I even bought George Michael's Easier afair because it was released months be4 25 came out.Mariah had her comeback in Europe thanx 2 the airplay=singles. Hung Up from Madonna was the reason her album climbed the charts. I remember I bought every Prince single,12" and then the album. Anyway,here the singles-charts are still important,evry radio channel in the weekend has their chart and in record stores they are on display. [Edited 1/25/07 14:50pm] Yeah i dont really understand how the market works anymore in the USA. It just doesnt make sense to me, they talk about sliding sales but never take the blame themselves for the way they market. I look overseas at some of my favorite artists and they all release "actual" singles that SELL, everyone from PCD to madonna to Jovi to Depeche mode u name it, the market is there. And the import stores here in NYC that sell these singles, sell tons of them, so whats the deal? i dont get why u elminate it. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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On the other hand,we also get some single-releases that are really stupid
(childish songs about a rabbit or Anton from Tirrol) and sometimes they become those huge hits and you hear them all the time(lucky not on all stations) Some of these folks really make big money from such songs 
But I really can't imagine if there were no more singles released overhere, it's the first thing u see when U step in2 some record stores;the top 30 of singles!!! And like U said,there are luxury releases with remixes or video, even on the regular singles U can find a remix or unreleased song. George Michael never released his Unplugged performance but some of hte songs ended up on a single release. I hope this thing won't blow over 2 Europe because ussualy when something starts in the US,sometime later they do the same thing here. Love4oneanother | |
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Paisley4u said: On the other hand,we also get some single-releases that are really stupid
(childish songs about a rabbit or Anton from Tirrol) and sometimes they become those huge hits and you hear them all the time(lucky not on all stations) Some of these folks really make big money from such songs
But I really can't imagine if there were no more singles released overhere, it's the first thing u see when U step in2 some record stores;the top 30 of singles!!! And like U said,there are luxury releases with remixes or video, even on the regular singles U can find a remix or unreleased song. George Michael never released his Unplugged performance but some of hte songs ended up on a single release. I hope this thing won't blow over 2 Europe because ussualy when something starts in the US,sometime later they do the same thing here. Yeah thats why when Tower Records closed here in nyc it was a really big deal becuase they were great for still having singles and imports, there is another really good import source here which is Record Runner and they have been around about 20 years or so, and thats where i get any artists imports and singles, anyone from George to U2 to Jovi to Madonna to Pcd to Girls aloud, they have it all. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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Really the marketing is all wrong.
I think part of it was, who has disposible income, how many of them are there. But now it's like, they don't WANT TO SPEND IT so the marketing is a mistake. | |
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CinisterCee said: Really the marketing is all wrong.
I think part of it was, who has disposible income, how many of them are there. But now it's like, they don't WANT TO SPEND IT so the marketing is a mistake. Well thats the reality of the situation, i think the people that would buy a Madonna Remix single or a janet remix single and a Depeche Mode B side are still there but labels took the easy way out and figured those people dont matter which is STUPID whoever came up with this marketing in the US is dumb plain and simple. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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yeah they seemed to have forgot about non-album material, ay? | |
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iTunes has them every week.. most quality artists do have B-sides. | |
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Sdldawn said: iTunes has them every week.. most quality artists do have B-sides.
The only thing with iTunes is that alot of the artists i spoke of dont get their stuff released to iTunes and when they do its one song. It seems they are focusing on the UK market since the US market has given up on them, they figure well we give up on you too. I still have issues with iTunes, maybe its just wanting the physical single or album and not being patient with it. But i think the elimination of the "single" and depending on iTunes before it actually "took over" the market wasnt wise. Its not like downloads are outselling "physical" cds the way Cds were outselling Vinyl. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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Sdldawn said: iTunes has them every week.. most quality artists do have B-sides.
i'm totally disconnected from iTunes' store | |
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