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Thread started 01/19/07 4:51am

dogmaiswrong

Does Madonna own her own music?

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Why no reissues?
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Reply #1 posted 01/19/07 4:53am

IstenSzek

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everything was remastered a while back though.

but that doesn't answer your question, i know.
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #2 posted 01/19/07 4:57am

MikeMatronik

I think she does. She's not as dumb as PRN! lol
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Reply #3 posted 01/19/07 5:00am

dogmaiswrong

IstenSzek said:

everything was remastered a while back though.

but that doesn't answer your question, i know.


Everything was remastered?

I thnk her 80's stuff sounded great anyway; it was well recorded; i was just wondering who owns it becuase Prince wanted her to help him with his masters, didn;t he?
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Reply #4 posted 01/19/07 5:01am

MikeMatronik

Madonna's original recording contract was with Sire and not with Warner. Warner just distributed the Sire releases.
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Reply #5 posted 01/19/07 5:06am

IstenSzek

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dogmaiswrong said:

IstenSzek said:

everything was remastered a while back though.

but that doesn't answer your question, i know.


Everything was remastered?

I thnk her 80's stuff sounded great anyway; it was well recorded; i was just wondering who owns it becuase Prince wanted her to help him with his masters, didn;t he?


i think prince asked madonna to help him get his masters back because
she was the most powerfull artist in association with them at the time.

i doubt she owns her masters from her 80s material though.
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Reply #6 posted 01/19/07 5:11am

MikeMatronik

IstenSzek said:

dogmaiswrong said:



Everything was remastered?

I thnk her 80's stuff sounded great anyway; it was well recorded; i was just wondering who owns it becuase Prince wanted her to help him with his masters, didn;t he?


i think prince asked madonna to help him get his masters back because
she was the most powerfull artist in association with them at the time.

i doubt she owns her masters from her 80s material though.


I think she does. But we don't have have evidence of that. Madonna is very secretive about business
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Reply #7 posted 01/19/07 5:24am

IstenSzek

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MikeMatronik said:

IstenSzek said:



i think prince asked madonna to help him get his masters back because
she was the most powerfull artist in association with them at the time.

i doubt she owns her masters from her 80s material though.


I think she does. But we don't have have evidence of that. Madonna is very secretive about business


well i'm pretty sure she owns the masters from everything since
she started the maverick label, but i also think that back when
she first came out in the early 80's she was like everyone else
and signed the contracts most of them signed, not knowing just
how much control and ownership they signed away at that point.
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Reply #8 posted 01/19/07 5:30am

MikeMatronik

IstenSzek said:

MikeMatronik said:



I think she does. But we don't have have evidence of that. Madonna is very secretive about business


well i'm pretty sure she owns the masters from everything since
she started the maverick label, but i also think that back when
she first came out in the early 80's she was like everyone else
and signed the contracts most of them signed, not knowing just
how much control and ownership they signed away at that point.


Still U2 own their masters, because of their manager and the fact they settled with low royalties with the record company. If I'm not mistaken, U2 own a bit of Island Records
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Reply #9 posted 01/19/07 5:30am

dogmaiswrong

MikeMatronik said:

IstenSzek said:



well i'm pretty sure she owns the masters from everything since
she started the maverick label, but i also think that back when
she first came out in the early 80's she was like everyone else
and signed the contracts most of them signed, not knowing just
how much control and ownership they signed away at that point.


Still U2 own their masters, because of their manager and the fact they settled with low royalties with the record company. If I'm not mistaken, U2 own a bit of Island Records


yeah so if U2 released remasters they would be $$$$$?
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Reply #10 posted 01/19/07 5:31am

MikeMatronik

dogmaiswrong said:

MikeMatronik said:



Still U2 own their masters, because of their manager and the fact they settled with low royalties with the record company. If I'm not mistaken, U2 own a bit of Island Records


yeah so if U2 released remasters they would be $$$$$?


yep
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Reply #11 posted 01/19/07 5:34am

SoulAlive

dogmaiswrong said:

Why no reissues?



Her first three albums ('Madonna','Like A Virgin' and 'True Blue') have already been remastered.I still don't know why they haven't remastered 'Like A Prayer' yet.I know that Warners wants to release a multi-disc box set,but Madonna refuses to participate.Like Prince,she hates compilations and looking back on her career.

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Reply #12 posted 01/19/07 5:38am

MikeMatronik

SoulAlive said:

dogmaiswrong said:

Why no reissues?



Her first three albums ('Madonna','Like A Virgin' and 'True Blue') have already been remastered.I still don't know why they haven't remastered 'Like A Prayer' yet.I know that Warners wants to release a multi-disc box set,but Madonna refuses to participate.Like Prince,she hates compilations and looking back on her career.

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That seen in the punishement that was GHV2!
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Reply #13 posted 01/19/07 6:04am

novabrkr

I don't think she'd be interested in owning that kind of records herself, she has taste to a moderate degree at least.
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Reply #14 posted 01/19/07 6:07am

MikeMatronik

novabrkr said:

I don't think she'd be interested in owning that kind of records herself, she has taste to a moderate degree at least.

lol
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Reply #15 posted 01/19/07 7:33am

dogmaiswrong

novabrkr said:

I don't think she'd be interested in owning that kind of records herself, she has taste to a moderate degree at least.


i would of said the same thing but i bought immaculate collection and gh2 and they are excellent. the 80's stuff actually sounds better becuase for some reason some of the other stuff is bass heavy fopr i don't know what reason.

Maybe 'madge' doesn't want to acknowledge all those early hits that others wrote for her?
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Reply #16 posted 01/19/07 7:58am

poeticrockstar

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I think she does. She's not as dumb as PRN! lol


What makes you think that man is dumb? Everytime they play a Prince song he's getting paid! Contrary to popular belief, Prince isn't as dumb as you think. The brother has some juice at WB even though he's no longer affiliated with the label.
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Reply #17 posted 01/19/07 8:01am

MikeMatronik

poeticrockstar said:

MikeMatronik said:

I think she does. She's not as dumb as PRN! lol


What makes you think that man is dumb? Everytime they play a Prince song he's getting paid! Contrary to popular belief, Prince isn't as dumb as you think. The brother has some juice at WB even though he's no longer affiliated with the label.


All artists that have written their hit song get money. It's called publishing!
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Reply #18 posted 01/19/07 8:02am

MikeMatronik

dogmaiswrong said:

novabrkr said:

I don't think she'd be interested in owning that kind of records herself, she has taste to a moderate degree at least.


i would of said the same thing but i bought immaculate collection and gh2 and they are excellent. the 80's stuff actually sounds better becuase for some reason some of the other stuff is bass heavy fopr i don't know what reason.

Maybe 'madge' doesn't want to acknowledge all those early hits that others wrote for her?


I hope she detroys the masters of the Like A virgin album. It's the biggest piece of shit ever made
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Reply #19 posted 01/19/07 8:05am

poeticrockstar

MikeMatronik said:

poeticrockstar said:



What makes you think that man is dumb? Everytime they play a Prince song he's getting paid! Contrary to popular belief, Prince isn't as dumb as you think. The brother has some juice at WB even though he's no longer affiliated with the label.


All artists that have written their hit song get money. It's called publishing!
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Not really, my brother. You got a lot of artists walking around today with multi-million sellers and on welfare.

What Prince say: "you can platinum four times/and still couldn't make/what I make in a week!"
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Reply #20 posted 01/19/07 8:05am

MikeMatronik

poeticrockstar said:

MikeMatronik said:



All artists that have written their hit song get money. It's called publishing!
[Edited 1/19/07 8:02am]


Not really, my brother. You got a lot of artists walking around today with multi-million sellers and on welfare.

What Prince say: "you can platinum four times/and still couldn't make/what I make in a week!"


Yes, that's true. Little Richard is case if I'm not mistaken
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Reply #21 posted 01/19/07 8:04pm

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MikeMatronik said:

poeticrockstar said:



Not really, my brother. You got a lot of artists walking around today with multi-million sellers and on welfare.

What Prince say: "you can platinum four times/and still couldn't make/what I make in a week!"


Yes, that's true. Little Richard is case if I'm not mistaken


I read somewhere that Little Richard was only paid a 1/2 cent royalties for each record that he sold. That doesn't sound believable, but that is what I read. Btw, Little Richard lost all rights to his recordings and Michael Jackson bought them. However, he returned them all to Little Richard FREE OF CHARGE. He purchased them with the sole intent to return them to Little Richard. There are so many great things that MJ has done that people don't realize or don't want to acknowledge.
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Reply #22 posted 01/19/07 8:45pm

sallysassalot

i've never heard of madonna owning her masters. in fact, i'm sure i read somewhere that she was able to get maverick as a vanity label as part of the deal for letting warner keep the masters. then all that stuff happened with maverick and warner...i thought that also had something to do with master recordings but i could be wrong.

i think madonna would be worth more than 350 million if she owned her masters, wouldn't she?
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Reply #23 posted 01/19/07 9:51pm

missmad

who knows
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Reply #24 posted 01/20/07 3:43am

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MikeMatronik said:

I hope she detroys the masters of the Like A virgin album. It's the biggest piece of shit ever made


lol Here we go again?!?!
"I would say that Prince's top thirty percent is great. Of that thirty percent, I'll bet the public has heard twenty percent of it." - Susan Rogers, "Hunting for Prince's Vault", BBC, 2015
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Reply #25 posted 01/20/07 5:08am

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MikeMatronik said:

poeticrockstar said:



What makes you think that man is dumb? Everytime they play a Prince song he's getting paid! Contrary to popular belief, Prince isn't as dumb as you think. The brother has some juice at WB even though he's no longer affiliated with the label.


All artists that have written their hit song get money. It's called publishing!
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Owning publishing rights to songs is different to owing the "masters". Master's are the overall sound recording of the albums. Record companies normally pay for their artists recording sessions, which is way they and not the artists often own the masters of their albums.

I'm not too sure if Madonna owns the masters of her albums. And I'm not too sure what her publishing rights to her songs are, as she co-writes nearly all of her songs with sometimes up to 5 co-writers. So the income from her publishing will be split among a few people, not just Madonna. Prince won't have to slplit his publish with any co-writers and he writes all of his song (except a few) by himself. If Prince ever gets to own the masters to his albums he will beable to distribute his Warner Bros albums through different record companies.
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Reply #26 posted 01/20/07 5:14am

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MikeMatronik said:

I think she does. She's not as dumb as PRN! lol


I would'nt be too sure that she does. Madonna is smart in the way she promotes herself, and who she gets the best out of her collaboraters (as Madonna's depends on them for creativity). But as a pure business woman, Madonna's not as smart as her fans think she is. Her co-owned Maverick label lost Warner Bros over $100, and they acutally sued her to get the money back, as her lable never made any profit. The Madonna and her associaties counter sued, but Maverick was given to Warner Bros as an out of court settlement, and I think closed down.
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Reply #27 posted 01/20/07 9:11am

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sallysassalot said:

i've never heard of madonna owning her masters. in fact, i'm sure i read somewhere that she was able to get maverick as a vanity label as part of the deal for letting warner keep the masters. then all that stuff happened with maverick and warner...i thought that also had something to do with master recordings but i could be wrong.

i think madonna would be worth more than 350 million if she owned her masters, wouldn't she?



As far as i know Madge owns everything from Erotica on. The lawsuit was a breach of contract filed by the owners of Maverick against the owners of the Warner Music Group and WMG coutersued Maverick. WMG settled with the Maverick owners and Madge walked away from Maverick 10million richer. At this time Madonna was looking at leaving WMG but the President of the label has been replaced and Madonna is content with staying at WMG.


And the Forbes list is a convervative estimate. they even admit that they are low balling Madonna's estimated wealth
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Reply #28 posted 01/20/07 9:33am

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I would think that she does own her master tapes, at least from "Erotica" and everything else afterward. However, wasn't she against the release of GHV2? If she did own the masters, surely she could have prevented WB from putting it out.

If she indeed doesn't own the masters, look at it this way: She sure as hell ain't gonna go broke because of it(with her worth of at least $500 million. $350 million is indeed too conservative of an amount for Madonna).
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Reply #29 posted 01/20/07 9:46am

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I would really doubt that she does. Nobody back in the 80's or mid-90's really concerned themselves with owning. Prince was one of the first (but not THE first) to question the whole system of ownership.

I think with all the various producers and songwriters she enlists, she probably would take more of an "up-front" payment than a long-term plan.
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