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TonyVanDam

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Will 2007 Be THE Year That CDs Will "Die"?

This is one reason why it might happen:

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Reply #1 posted 01/16/07 4:52pm

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TonyVanDam said:

This is one reason why it might happen:




Maybe but I still don't own an ipod!
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Reply #2 posted 01/16/07 4:54pm

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They are definately showing signs that they could be moving to extinction.

Here is Las Vegas records stores are going out of business like a hooker at an imputence convention. I assume that most retail cd stores can't compete with online retailers like amazon.

iTunes & the iPod is changing the way we live and purchase music. I can't imagine life without my iPod.

As much as i don't want to see them (CDs) go it may be inevitable.
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Reply #3 posted 01/16/07 4:57pm

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I'll never buy an iPod until they make BIGGER headphones for it. I want to hear The Bass when I'm jamming! wink
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Reply #4 posted 01/16/07 4:58pm

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TonyVanDam said:

I'll never buy an iPod until they make BIGGER headphones for it. I want to hear The Bass when I'm jamming! wink


I never use mine that way, i plug it into my car stereo its like having my cd collection in the car with me.
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Reply #5 posted 01/16/07 5:12pm

dancerella

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I'll never buy an iPod until they make BIGGER headphones for it. I want to hear The Bass when I'm jamming! wink



right on!
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Reply #6 posted 01/16/07 5:26pm

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I have an iPod Shuffle and it's great for when I'm at school and places like that, but I still prefer to have a real live CD collection: Booklets, artwork, lyrics, that sweet (and alterable!) sound of the music blasting out of a car or home stereo.. you just don't get those priceless things with an iPod. Now hey, maybe if I had a REAL iPod, I wouldn't be making as big a case lol, but even if I could afford something better than a shuffle, I will continue to buy CD's and build my treasured collection until they go extinct.
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Reply #7 posted 01/16/07 5:39pm

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I dont think so. Though i have had an ipod for about 2 years, i have purchased 0 albums and 4 songs through itunes. I still buy CDs, because the process of downloading and all that stuff is annoying and more time consuming than actually walking out of the house and getting it at a store. The big problem is the extinction of the "store", i dont do Best Buy or Target, so right now im stuck at buying a cd through amazon. The loss of "true" music retailers like Tower or Sam Goody has really hurt the industry, people can complain about prices but thats all bull, i cant believe people complain about a 10-12 dollar CD and then spend 3 bucks on Red Bull and 5 bucks on coffee or some fruit shake that will kill them in a few years, and if you are that worried that an artist cant do a good cd, then they arent worth getting into anyway. Now i worked in music Retail for 17 years up until this past April when we shut down and honestly i have seen everything go, when i started albums were just going out, then of course cassettes were gone, and now if you think CD's cant die that same way, its a mistake. But the key to keeping it alive will be the fact that digital/downloading is still a small percentage though increasing its not increasing fast enough to eliminate another option. And labels wont eliminate it mainly because its really the only way they get any money at this point, until they can get the handle on the illegal downloading issue.

Now another option would be for labels to stop killing the true music retailers because at the end of the day, if they go, u go. Sam Goody's downsizing and Towers elimination were huge, i dont think people really know how big that is unless you have been a part of it for awhile. Why are soundscan numbers down, well the fact that over 1500 music stores closed this year between Sam Goody,On Cue,Suncoast,Tower,and FYE, that might be one, and Tower and especially Sam Goody, we were the leaders in the RB category, that was up until 2000 when Best Buy bought Sam goody and basically stole everything from them, this is why Sam Goody lost all of its catalog sales after that. Best Buy/Target and others are basically places for Top40 stuff, good luck if you are looking for anything else.
[Edited 1/16/07 17:41pm]

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Reply #8 posted 01/16/07 5:52pm

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lastdecember said:

I dont think so. Though i have had an ipod for about 2 years, i have purchased 0 albums and 4 songs through itunes. I still buy CDs, because the process of downloading and all that stuff is annoying and more time consuming than actually walking out of the house and getting it at a store. The big problem is the extinction of the "store", i dont do Best Buy or Target, so right now im stuck at buying a cd through amazon. The loss of "true" music retailers like Tower or Sam Goody has really hurt the industry, people can complain about prices but thats all bull, i cant believe people complain about a 10-12 dollar CD and then spend 3 bucks on Red Bull and 5 bucks on coffee or some fruit shake that will kill them in a few years, and if you are that worried that an artist cant do a good cd, then they arent worth getting into anyway. Now i worked in music Retail for 17 years up until this past April when we shut down and honestly i have seen everything go, when i started albums were just going out, then of course cassettes were gone, and now if you think CD's cant die that same way, its a mistake. But the key to keeping it alive will be the fact that digital/downloading is still a small percentage though increasing its not increasing fast enough to eliminate another option. And labels wont eliminate it mainly because its really the only way they get any money at this point, until they can get the handle on the illegal downloading issue.

Now another option would be for labels to stop killing the true music retailers because at the end of the day, if they go, u go. Sam Goody's downsizing and Towers elimination were huge, i dont think people really know how big that is unless you have been a part of it for awhile. Why are soundscan numbers down, well the fact that over 1500 music stores closed this year between Sam Goody,On Cue,Suncoast,Tower,and FYE, that might be one, and Tower and especially Sam Goody, we were the leaders in the RB category, that was up until 2000 when Best Buy bought Sam goody and basically stole everything from them, this is why Sam Goody lost all of its catalog sales after that. Best Buy/Target and others are basically places for Top40 stuff, good luck if you are looking for anything else.
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1. Hey watch it! I like to drink a good Starbuck's ice coffee over at Barnes & Nobles when I'm reading books for free, and I'm not dead yet. lol

2. You're right about everything else. It's sucks that Tower Records has closed forever in New Orleans. And the Virgin MegaStore will never be rebuilt in the French Quarter within the post-Katrina era. Those stores were the only places that I used to go for CD imports. Meanwhile, these types of record stores never existed in Little Rock at all. disbelief
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Reply #9 posted 01/16/07 5:58pm

GangstaFam

Nah.
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Reply #10 posted 01/16/07 6:07pm

AlexdeParis

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dancerella said:

TonyVanDam said:

I'll never buy an iPod until they make BIGGER headphones for it. I want to hear The Bass when I'm jamming! wink



right on!

confused Why not just use different headphones? Am I missing something? neutral
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Reply #11 posted 01/16/07 6:13pm

GangstaFam

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confused Why not just use different headphones? Am I missing something? neutral

That's what I do.
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Reply #12 posted 01/16/07 6:15pm

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They said that about vinyl about 20 years ago. We did see a huge purge of Vinyl, but it came back! Many new releases are getting the vinyl treatment. I assume the same will be for CD...but as long as it's a viable format, it will continue. I, for one do not like purchasing music online esp from iTunes. It's so proprietary, and until they can take out the junk in their files and make it straight mp3, we're not going to see anything really major anytime soon. Many people don't want an iPod.

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Reply #13 posted 01/16/07 6:50pm

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I don't like ipods. They are overpriced and the accessories are too
expensive. I got the panasonic 2 gig sv-MP020 model. It uses one AA battery
and lasts 80 hours. Great quality player. As far as cd's dying, sales will
continue to drop but after talking to some people, they say they will
continue to buy the artists that they really like which is what i do now.
Instead of buying greatest hit cd's by ewf, cameo,etc. you can download your
favorite 10 to 15 songs by these artists and save your money and purchase the newer stuff.
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Reply #14 posted 01/16/07 6:57pm

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i think its funny how they blame the cd's for poor sales when its the fucking talent that needs to be changed...
Check it out ...Shiny Toy Guns R gonna blowup VERY soon and bring melody back to music..you heard it here 1st! http://www.myspacecomment...theone.mp3
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Reply #15 posted 01/16/07 7:02pm

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TonyVanDam said:

lastdecember said:

I dont think so. Though i have had an ipod for about 2 years, i have purchased 0 albums and 4 songs through itunes. I still buy CDs, because the process of downloading and all that stuff is annoying and more time consuming than actually walking out of the house and getting it at a store. The big problem is the extinction of the "store", i dont do Best Buy or Target, so right now im stuck at buying a cd through amazon. The loss of "true" music retailers like Tower or Sam Goody has really hurt the industry, people can complain about prices but thats all bull, i cant believe people complain about a 10-12 dollar CD and then spend 3 bucks on Red Bull and 5 bucks on coffee or some fruit shake that will kill them in a few years, and if you are that worried that an artist cant do a good cd, then they arent worth getting into anyway. Now i worked in music Retail for 17 years up until this past April when we shut down and honestly i have seen everything go, when i started albums were just going out, then of course cassettes were gone, and now if you think CD's cant die that same way, its a mistake. But the key to keeping it alive will be the fact that digital/downloading is still a small percentage though increasing its not increasing fast enough to eliminate another option. And labels wont eliminate it mainly because its really the only way they get any money at this point, until they can get the handle on the illegal downloading issue.

Now another option would be for labels to stop killing the true music retailers because at the end of the day, if they go, u go. Sam Goody's downsizing and Towers elimination were huge, i dont think people really know how big that is unless you have been a part of it for awhile. Why are soundscan numbers down, well the fact that over 1500 music stores closed this year between Sam Goody,On Cue,Suncoast,Tower,and FYE, that might be one, and Tower and especially Sam Goody, we were the leaders in the RB category, that was up until 2000 when Best Buy bought Sam goody and basically stole everything from them, this is why Sam Goody lost all of its catalog sales after that. Best Buy/Target and others are basically places for Top40 stuff, good luck if you are looking for anything else.
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1. Hey watch it! I like to drink a good Starbuck's ice coffee over at Barnes & Nobles when I'm reading books for free, and I'm not dead yet. lol

2. You're right about everything else. It's sucks that Tower Records has closed forever in New Orleans. And the Virgin MegaStore will never be rebuilt in the French Quarter within the post-Katrina era. Those stores were the only places that I used to go for CD imports. Meanwhile, these types of record stores never existed in Little Rock at all. disbelief


Imports are something i miss about Tower, though Virgin is pretty good at it here in NYC, they arent what Tower was. Tower had the deepest catalog,most independant artists,and imports of any retailers. Its tough if your not in NYC, basically the last place in new york for imports now would be Record Runner, outside of that, imports really dont exist anymore.

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Reply #16 posted 01/16/07 7:08pm

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phunkdaddy said:

I don't like ipods. They are overpriced and the accessories are too
expensive. I got the panasonic 2 gig sv-MP020 model. It uses one AA battery
and lasts 80 hours. Great quality player.

iPods aren't overpriced; they just have a combination of features and ease of use for which you're not willing to pay.
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Reply #17 posted 01/16/07 8:08pm

Sdldawn

nah.. don't think thats the answer.. its a nice and popular product, but it won't be the downfall of cd's.. at least not in 2007
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Reply #18 posted 01/17/07 12:51am

Christopher

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not entirely hard to believe.... i mean they did away slowly with cassette tapes and then vhs.
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Reply #19 posted 01/17/07 7:04am

novabrkr

I hope not. I have several waiting to be released this year. confused

Long live 8-track then.
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Reply #20 posted 01/17/07 8:54am

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I have zero interest in ever buying a CD ever again. I just don't see the point in this cumbersone disc when I can just get the songs on my iPod.
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Reply #21 posted 01/17/07 9:13am

Mara

Christopher said:

not entirely hard to believe.... i mean they did away slowly with cassette tapes and then vhs.


...and Laser discs and BETA.
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Reply #22 posted 01/17/07 10:18am

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AlexdeParis said:

phunkdaddy said:

I don't like ipods. They are overpriced and the accessories are too
expensive. I got the panasonic 2 gig sv-MP020 model. It uses one AA battery
and lasts 80 hours. Great quality player.

iPods aren't overpriced; they just have a combination of features and ease of use for which you're not willing to pay.



well u can get a sandisk sansa for like 6gb with many more features like fm tuner
it has similar size to it too!! it was only 100$ at amazon with free shippin

so ipod isnt the only game in town

I have a PDA which can play videos( much better screen) mp3s log online with wifi and has bluetooth too
i can chat online surf the web send emails but its the size of the ipod mini

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Reply #23 posted 01/17/07 10:40am

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TonyVanDam said:

I'll never buy an iPod until they make BIGGER headphones for it. I want to hear The Bass when I'm jamming! wink



Hey, TVD..
don't even think about using another brand
if it's BASS & clarity ya want ?
lol


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Reply #24 posted 01/17/07 10:59am

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lastdecember said:

I dont think so. Though i have had an ipod for about 2 years, i have purchased 0 albums and 4 songs through itunes. I still buy CDs, because the process of downloading and all that stuff is annoying and more time consuming than actually walking out of the house and getting it at a store. The big problem is the extinction of the "store", i dont do Best Buy or Target, so right now im stuck at buying a cd through amazon. The loss of "true" music retailers like Tower or Sam Goody has really hurt the industry, people can complain about prices but thats all bull, i cant believe people complain about a 10-12 dollar CD and then spend 3 bucks on Red Bull and 5 bucks on coffee or some fruit shake that will kill them in a few years, and if you are that worried that an artist cant do a good cd, then they arent worth getting into anyway. Now i worked in music Retail for 17 years up until this past April when we shut down and honestly i have seen everything go, when i started albums were just going out, then of course cassettes were gone, and now if you think CD's cant die that same way, its a mistake. But the key to keeping it alive will be the fact that digital/downloading is still a small percentage though increasing its not increasing fast enough to eliminate another option. And labels wont eliminate it mainly because its really the only way they get any money at this point, until they can get the handle on the illegal downloading issue.

Now another option would be for labels to stop killing the true music retailers because at the end of the day, if they go, u go. Sam Goody's downsizing and Towers elimination were huge, i dont think people really know how big that is unless you have been a part of it for awhile. Why are soundscan numbers down, well the fact that over 1500 music stores closed this year between Sam Goody,On Cue,Suncoast,Tower,and FYE, that might be one, and Tower and especially Sam Goody, we were the leaders in the RB category, that was up until 2000 when Best Buy bought Sam goody and basically stole everything from them, this is why Sam Goody lost all of its catalog sales after that. Best Buy/Target and others are basically places for Top40 stuff, good luck if you are looking for anything else.
[Edited 1/16/07 17:41pm]


You're definitely right. People's priorities are totally fucked up, especially when it comes to the way they spend their money. Hell, I'm guilty of it sometimes.

But think about it. In a world where so many things are sold at an "all you can eat" price, music IS expensive! People want music, it's just that they don't want it on the terms that those in power are selling it on. If they didn't why would people even buy iPods in the first place?

I don't think CDs are going anywhere. The labels don't have anything to replace the CDs with cause they sure as hell aren't hip to files yet.
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lastdecember said:

I dont think so. Though i have had an ipod for about 2 years, i have purchased 0 albums and 4 songs through itunes. I still buy CDs, because the process of downloading and all that stuff is annoying and more time consuming than actually walking out of the house and getting it at a store. The big problem is the extinction of the "store", i dont do Best Buy or Target, so right now im stuck at buying a cd through amazon. The loss of "true" music retailers like Tower or Sam Goody has really hurt the industry, people can complain about prices but thats all bull, i cant believe people complain about a 10-12 dollar CD and then spend 3 bucks on Red Bull and 5 bucks on coffee or some fruit shake that will kill them in a few years, and if you are that worried that an artist cant do a good cd, then they arent worth getting into anyway. Now i worked in music Retail for 17 years up until this past April when we shut down and honestly i have seen everything go, when i started albums were just going out, then of course cassettes were gone, and now if you think CD's cant die that same way, its a mistake. But the key to keeping it alive will be the fact that digital/downloading is still a small percentage though increasing its not increasing fast enough to eliminate another option. And labels wont eliminate it mainly because its really the only way they get any money at this point, until they can get the handle on the illegal downloading issue.

Now another option would be for labels to stop killing the true music retailers because at the end of the day, if they go, u go. Sam Goody's downsizing and Towers elimination were huge, i dont think people really know how big that is unless you have been a part of it for awhile. Why are soundscan numbers down, well the fact that over 1500 music stores closed this year between Sam Goody,On Cue,Suncoast,Tower,and FYE, that might be one, and Tower and especially Sam Goody, we were the leaders in the RB category, that was up until 2000 when Best Buy bought Sam goody and basically stole everything from them, this is why Sam Goody lost all of its catalog sales after that. Best Buy/Target and others are basically places for Top40 stuff, good luck if you are looking for anything else.
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You're definitely right. People's priorities are totally fucked up, especially when it comes to the way they spend their money. Hell, I'm guilty of it sometimes.

But think about it. In a world where so many things are sold at an "all you can eat" price, music IS expensive! People want music, it's just that they don't want it on the terms that those in power are selling it on. If they didn't why would people even buy iPods in the first place?

I don't think CDs are going anywhere. The labels don't have anything to replace the CDs with cause they sure as hell aren't hip to files yet.


In reality Music isnt expensive, if you look at what Albums used to cost 6-7 bucks, and then look at the cost of living back then, it was actually more expensive then. The labels target kids with the music now more than ever, and thats why its crashing, kids today have 200 dollar cell phones and cell phone bills, they spend 100-200 on sneakers, so why would they buy music? So to blame prices is not the answer, i mean people spend 15-20 dollars on a new DVD release of a shitty movie that they know is shit. Its just a change in priorities for people and labels, they target the young and it works for a time but in reality, that is the worst market and its now showing. I dont think CD's are going anywhere yet, i do think that you will slowly start to see stock levels in stores and online sites decrease, at this point labels will probably stop printing so many copies of things. I do see a change coming soon though just in the forums that artists use, i think in another year or two, artists that are fed up with MTV/BET/VH1 and their bogus playlists and Reality shows, will form a nonstop 24 hour video/music channel.

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Reply #26 posted 01/17/07 12:13pm

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lastdecember said:

guitarslinger44 said:



You're definitely right. People's priorities are totally fucked up, especially when it comes to the way they spend their money. Hell, I'm guilty of it sometimes.

But think about it. In a world where so many things are sold at an "all you can eat" price, music IS expensive! People want music, it's just that they don't want it on the terms that those in power are selling it on. If they didn't why would people even buy iPods in the first place?

I don't think CDs are going anywhere. The labels don't have anything to replace the CDs with cause they sure as hell aren't hip to files yet.


In reality Music isnt expensive, if you look at what Albums used to cost 6-7 bucks, and then look at the cost of living back then, it was actually more expensive then. The labels target kids with the music now more than ever, and thats why its crashing, kids today have 200 dollar cell phones and cell phone bills, they spend 100-200 on sneakers, so why would they buy music? So to blame prices is not the answer, i mean people spend 15-20 dollars on a new DVD release of a shitty movie that they know is shit. Its just a change in priorities for people and labels, they target the young and it works for a time but in reality, that is the worst market and its now showing. I dont think CD's are going anywhere yet, i do think that you will slowly start to see stock levels in stores and online sites decrease, at this point labels will probably stop printing so many copies of things. I do see a change coming soon though just in the forums that artists use, i think in another year or two, artists that are fed up with MTV/BET/VH1 and their bogus playlists and Reality shows, will form a nonstop 24 hour video/music channel.


just because others think Supergirl is shit doesn't mean that i have to think it is too!! I love that movie and am proud to own the deluxe 2DVD edition of the movie!!!
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PurpleKnight said:

I have zero interest in ever buying a CD ever again. I just don't see the point in this cumbersone disc when I can just get the songs on my iPod.


I have zero interest in ever dowloading an album. I just don't see the point in buying inferior mp3 files when I can get better quality music on a CD along with album art and liner notes.
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Reply #28 posted 01/17/07 12:53pm

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sextonseven said:

PurpleKnight said:

I have zero interest in ever buying a CD ever again. I just don't see the point in this cumbersone disc when I can just get the songs on my iPod.


I have zero interest in ever dowloading an album. I just don't see the point in buying inferior mp3 files when I can get better quality music on a CD along with album art and liner notes.


I have zero interest in ever paying for a music download.
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Reply #29 posted 01/17/07 12:56pm

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sextonseven said:

PurpleKnight said:

I have zero interest in ever buying a CD ever again. I just don't see the point in this cumbersone disc when I can just get the songs on my iPod.


I have zero interest in ever dowloading an album. I just don't see the point in buying inferior mp3 files when I can get better quality music on a CD along with album art and liner notes.


Totally agree. This generation should be called the "SoundByte" generation, because that is the attention span, and in reality if you look at everything that Soundbytes have caused like.....Media stars who do nothing, reality stars who do less, a music/movie genre that is run by 12 year olds and of course soundbytes are why we are in a war we lost a long time ago.

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