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Thread started 01/14/07 4:42pm

EmeraldCity

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When will Beyonce stop?

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Reply #1 posted 01/14/07 5:16pm

CinisterCee

disbelief
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Reply #2 posted 01/14/07 5:38pm

PricelessHo

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disbelief
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Reply #3 posted 01/14/07 6:05pm

stopHATING

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As soon as "BRITTNEY" stops showing her Pussy
and, Puking on muhthafuckas ?
"You can go Fly ya Mama's Kite" (c) Prince
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Reply #4 posted 01/14/07 6:20pm

RipHer2Shreds

Hah! lol I watched this yesterday.
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Reply #5 posted 01/14/07 9:13pm

missmad

why is this new to people?

there are ghostwriters all the time esp in this industry, we all know how u add a few words nowadays and u CAN get credit as a writer

it just so happens that the writer is a visible person themselves
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Reply #6 posted 01/14/07 9:27pm

CinisterCee

It seems even lower considering Ne-Yo has a name for himself. neutral
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Reply #7 posted 01/14/07 9:47pm

ladygirl99

missmad said:

why is this new to people?

there are ghostwriters all the time esp in this industry, we all know how u add a few words nowadays and u CAN get credit as a writer
it just so happens that the writer is a visible person themselves

Exactly, and this coming from a ghostwriter myself but I don't work in the music industry though. It very common for musician and artists use ghostwriters. Same goes for the book and magazine industry.
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Reply #8 posted 01/14/07 9:54pm

sallysassalot

madonna's been doing it for years. lol it ain't nothing new.
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Reply #9 posted 01/14/07 11:42pm

missmad

ladygirl99 said:

missmad said:

why is this new to people?

there are ghostwriters all the time esp in this industry, we all know how u add a few words nowadays and u CAN get credit as a writer
it just so happens that the writer is a visible person themselves

Exactly, and this coming from a ghostwriter myself but I don't work in the music industry though. It very common for musician and artists use ghostwriters. Same goes for the book and magazine industry.



right im a writer myself and i see a lot of that: ghostwriter needed to write this or that books, articles
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Reply #10 posted 01/15/07 12:52am

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"When will Beyonce stop?"


When Jay-Z finally gets her pregnant. Please get her knocked-up, PLEASE, so she'll sit her ass down!!!!. This is the main reason I can never completely hate K-Fed. He saved my ears from having to listen to Britney for two years and now she looks like hell...all puffy faced with stretch marks and C-section scars. Even rich, famous, and beautiful people can't completely get rid of stretch marks. Thanks K-Fed! biggrin
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Reply #11 posted 01/15/07 12:54am

SoulAlive

Ne-Yo wrote that song? No wonder it's so crappy lol
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Reply #12 posted 01/15/07 2:57am

MikeMatronik

sallysassalot said:

madonna's been doing it for years. lol it ain't nothing new.


Can u provide proof?
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Reply #13 posted 01/15/07 3:03am

ThreadBare

Occasional ghostwriter... wave
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Reply #14 posted 01/15/07 6:42am

Rhondab

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"When will Beyonce stop?"


When Jay-Z finally gets her pregnant. Please get her knocked-up, PLEASE, so she'll sit her ass down!!!!. This is the main reason I can never completely hate K-Fed. He saved my ears from having to listen to Britney for two years and now she looks like hell...all puffy faced with stretch marks and C-section scars. Even rich, famous, and beautiful people can't completely get rid of stretch marks. Thanks K-Fed! biggrin

lol

rumor I've heard is that Jay-z and Bouncy are "taking a break" from each other.
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Reply #15 posted 01/15/07 6:42am

MikeMatronik

I gostwrote BEP's My Humps! cool
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Reply #16 posted 01/15/07 6:46am

Ellie

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MikeMatronik said:

I gostwrote BEP's My Humps! cool

I'd suggest you hire some bodyguards now.
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Reply #17 posted 01/15/07 6:51am

minneapolisgen
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MikeMatronik said:

I gostwrote BEP's My Humps! cool

Figures. razz



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Reply #18 posted 01/15/07 7:18am

LoveSong69

well, i dunno what happened there. But on trl & in some recent magazine, when they were giving her props on the song. She said that NeYo actually wrote it...Jay sent her a demo for consideration...she arranged a new melody...changed some of the instruments....and words to her liking...and added the "to the left, to the left" opening to make it more catchy.
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Reply #19 posted 01/15/07 7:33am

MikeMatronik

Who's that "Yo-Yo" dude?
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Reply #20 posted 01/15/07 7:35am

RipHer2Shreds

missmad said:

why is this new to people?

there are ghostwriters all the time esp in this industry, we all know how u add a few words nowadays and u CAN get credit as a writer


But she added no words...
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Reply #21 posted 01/15/07 7:40am

ABeautifulOne

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MikeMatronik said:

Who's that "Yo-Yo" dude?



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Reply #22 posted 01/15/07 7:42am

MikeMatronik

ABeautifulOne said:

MikeMatronik said:

Who's that "Yo-Yo" dude?





oh
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Reply #23 posted 01/15/07 8:28am

murph

Actually, it's been well known in the industry and through media reports that Ne-Yo contributed heavily to "Irreplacaeble"...Nothing new....
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Reply #24 posted 01/15/07 9:07am

sallysassalot

MikeMatronik said:

sallysassalot said:

madonna's been doing it for years. lol it ain't nothing new.


Can u provide proof?

lol

i can only provide examples of when she she was busted for not writing AND not giving credit. she and lenny took all the credit for justify my love when, in fact the lyrics came from a love letter ingrid chaves wrote to lenny. she sued and won. then there was sky fits heaven. she bought the rights to a hip hop act's lyrics (which, by the way, were used in a gap ad before madonna ever used them) and on the credits only she and her producers were credited.

i've read before...though its just rumor...that she and prince wrote like a prayer but he opted to go uncredited.
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Reply #25 posted 01/15/07 10:03am

MikeMatronik

sallysassalot said:

MikeMatronik said:



Can u provide proof?

lol

i can only provide examples of when she she was busted for not writing AND not giving credit. she and lenny took all the credit for justify my love when, in fact the lyrics came from a love letter ingrid chaves wrote to lenny. she sued and won. then there was sky fits heaven. she bought the rights to a hip hop act's lyrics (which, by the way, were used in a gap ad before madonna ever used them) and on the credits only she and her producers were credited.

i've read before...though its just rumor...that she and prince wrote like a prayer but he opted to go uncredited.
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lol

Madonna is so gonna sue u!

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Reply #26 posted 01/15/07 10:05am

KingKrazy

Beyonce will stop when somebody dethrones her, nobody is doing it than Beyonce get that money, and keep doing what you are doing, everybody seems to hate on her, but could tell u every song on her LP and how it sucks, me on the other hand don't know any song on the LP sans the video releases, and it will stay like that
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Reply #27 posted 01/15/07 10:16am

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I thought every1 already knew that Ne-yo wrote the song.
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Reply #28 posted 01/15/07 10:28am

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sallysassalot said:

MikeMatronik said:



Can u provide proof?

lol

i can only provide examples of when she she was busted for not writing AND not giving credit. she and lenny took all the credit for justify my love when, in fact the lyrics came from a love letter ingrid chaves wrote to lenny. she sued and won. then there was sky fits heaven. she bought the rights to a hip hop act's lyrics (which, by the way, were used in a gap ad before madonna ever used them) and on the credits only she and her producers were credited.

i've read before...though its just rumor...that she and prince wrote like a prayer but he opted to go uncredited.
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When Pat, Steven, William, Stuart, Mirwais, Dallas, Babyface, and Shep say otherwise than i believe she didn't write the lyrics. But every Madonna song has similar themes How many songs say Open Your Heart in them?


i'd strongly recommend reading Shep's Erotica Diaries for some insight into the creation of one Madonna's best albums.
http://www.madonna-online...iaries.htm


remember when Madonna and I first started working together on Erotica. We were listening in my home studio to one of the first songs and I turned to her and said "It's great, but it's no Vogue." She told me that not every song could be Vogue - not every cut could emerge as the top-selling record of all time. She was right, but I pressed my case anyway: "I guess I'm always trying to out-top myself," I told her, "the next thing should be bigger than the last." Madonna just turned and looked me straight in the eye. It had been a long time since I'd been star-struck by her, but she was glowing differently now. "Shep," she began, "no matter how fierce something is, you can't ever do the same thing twice." She sat down to record the final vocals on Erotica and looked out onto the terrace and into the New York City night. "Ever," she repeated


Deeper and Deeper, Erotica, Rain and Thief of Hearts made up the first batch of songs we worked on together. I did the music and she wrote the words. Sometimes I'd give her some ideas lyrically and she'd go: "Oh, that's good," or "That sucks." I remember when I gave her some ideas lyrically for Vogue and she said, very curtly, "That's what I do." Essentially, her songs are her stories. They're the things she wants to say.


The Erotica Diary [May 1992]
I met Madonna at Oceanway Studios in Los Angeles to complete the orchestra parts for This Used To Be My Playground. We had to record a string arrangement - something I was excited about but had never done before.
Madonna chose Jeremy Lubock to do the arrangements beacause he had done such a good job with her I'm Breathless Material and came highly recomended. Everything went fine until the point when the orchestra played their parts; we didn't like what we heard. Madonna and I had to change the whole arrangement, right there in the studio, with a full orchestra sitting there getting paid for taking up space - around $15,000 for three hours, $3000 for every half hour over that. And of cource, Lubbock was talking to two people who didn't know a C from a B natural. The pressure was on.



I can only sing the notes I hear at the moment, so that's what I did. Madonna and I stood there over my little Mac, singing the notes, and Lubbock would go, "Oh, that's a G; Oh,that's a B" and that's how it got done. We completed the session in 2 hours and 58 minutes - two minutes away from another three grand. The last day of recording fell on Memorial day. Madonna wanted to do the lead vocals again, insisting that it would sound better. It did. I finished off some edits before going over to a party Madonna was throwing in her Hollywood mansion.

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Reply #29 posted 01/15/07 10:44am

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sallysassalot said:



The Erotica Diary [May 1992]
I met Madonna at Oceanway Studios in Los Angeles to complete the orchestra parts for This Used To Be My Playground. We had to record a string arrangement - something I was excited about but had never done before.
Madonna chose Jeremy Lubock to do the arrangements beacause he had done such a good job with her I'm Breathless Material and came highly recomended. Everything went fine until the point when the orchestra played their parts; we didn't like what we heard. Madonna and I had to change the whole arrangement, right there in the studio, with a full orchestra sitting there getting paid for taking up space - around $15,000 for three hours, $3000 for every half hour over that. And of cource, Lubbock was talking to two people who didn't know a C from a B natural. The pressure was on.



I can only sing the notes I hear at the moment, so that's what I did. Madonna and I stood there over my little Mac, singing the notes, and Lubbock would go, "Oh, that's a G; Oh,that's a B" and that's how it got done. We completed the session in 2 hours and 58 minutes - two minutes away from another three grand. The last day of recording fell on Memorial day. Madonna wanted to do the lead vocals again, insisting that it would sound better. It did. I finished off some edits before going over to a party Madonna was throwing in her Hollywood mansion.

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Madonna's producers have no reason to tell the truth when it comes to whether or not she wrote the songs. It's sort of like asking Rumsfeld if Bush writes his own speeches.
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