VoicesCarry said:

Have to disagree there, Norah was part of a whole movement in the clubs of NYC and she was the one to catch on, but Norah has gone back to that "club" life again which wont sit will with the label im sure,. The best move she did was the "Little Willies" project and playing shows again but not billing her name. Ive seen Norah 15 times, and i dont find her having a formula, her work with Peter Malick, Wax Poetic,Charlie Hunter,Dirty Dozen Brass Band,Alison kRauss,Ryan Adams and others are all different its just radio and tv doesnt play that stuff because labels often dont like "change".

lastdecember said:

No one cares if she puts on a pink wig and indulges in that stuff in some club somewhere. It's not the product she's putting up - that defines her artistic output.

To me she's always the same. It's the same boring just repackaged with a slightly different twang every time. She really is completely uninteresting in my books. Her voice is nothing special, her songs don't interest me.
[Edited 1/10/07 18:35pm]

VoicesCarry said:

Ok but all of her work with Peter Malick,Ryan Adams,Wax Poetic,the Little Willies,CHarlie Hunter etc is all out there and available in stores , whether thats what Vh1 jumps on or Blue note chooses to push is not her problem.

lastdecember said:

Technically she doesn't have a problem, since girlfriend will sell a million copies the first two weeks easy. She doesn't have a problem so she plays it safe.

VoicesCarry said:

I dont think she is playing it safe, i think labels, radio and video are the ones playing it safe. On the last Album Norah had a song with Dolly Parton, which is far from playing it safe, how come the label didnt release it as a single, how come radio didnt play it?

Mazerati said:

Well im not sure about that, though his fans will buy the cd, good luck finding it. Mellencamp is now on HIP-O records, he walked away from SONY (thank god) after 5 years, but the problem now is that there arent many outlets for Retail Cd's especially now with all of them gone, Best Buy and Target are not exactly music retailers or up to date on "indie Music"

lastdecember said:

I'm sorry, I don't see the logic? This is not exactly new musical ground or direction for her. Nothing about Dolly Parton is risky.



Norah is not a single or radio artist, so this is immaterial. It's not as if she actually has hits (she has only charted once on the Hot 100). She is an albums-only artist.
[Edited 1/10/07 19:09pm]

VoicesCarry said:

Well actually it was a change, since the first album was this low-key jazz and the second album leaned more towards Blue Grass, her work with Peter Malick is the most upbeat stuff she has done and with Ryan Adams leaned more to the alt/rock/blues field. So what would be risky for her a duet with Akon or Ne-yo, that to me would be "playing it safe" like a Gwen Stefani would do. True Norah isnt a singles artist but really who is anymore, singles dont exist unless you go overseas, so technically no one is a singles artist in this country.

lastdecember said:

I'm not saying Norah is untalented, but that she bores the fuck out of me. Which is the problem with today's music - talented people make boring music. No matter what she does, jazz, bluegrass or whatever it's all the same to me.



This doesn't make sense to me. There is still radio play and digital downloads.

DITTO!!!!! Die dammitt die!!!!!

VoicesCarry said:

Well everyone has their own opinion on Norah, to me she was a breath of fresh air from the shit out there, however i wouldnt exactly say that todays music is made BY TALENTED people? Seriously where is this talent? i can name about 10 from this decade

lastdecember said:

Come on. I wasn't talking about the shit on the radio. You know that.

I bitch about the state of music and people tell me to go listen to Snorah, Sarah McLachlan etc. Sure, they have talent - but they're boring!

Very true. Every time I bitch about these motherfuckers these days, someone recommends some artist, I check them out, and they are boring as hell! It's usually someone folk sounding sitting around playing an accoustical guitar sounding like they are getting ready to sing "Kumbaya". Hell, bring on the funk!

vainandy said:

Michael rowed the boat ashore. Hallelujah.....OOOOOh Lord (sounding like a dying cow), Kumbaya.....

VoicesCarry said:

Well i know what you mean, i told someone i was starving for something "Ryan Adams like" and they recommended the new John Mayer, are you kidding me? John Mayer in the same breath as Ryan Adams. As for things being "boring" well that can be said of anyone, I recommended the first Van Hunt to someone and they told me it was shit and they said he had "No hooks", i told someone else and they thought Van Hunt was the best thing to come from RB in a decade. So its all meaningless, to bitch about artists that have talent isnt the issue, its the ones that have NONE and shouldnt have a deal that get the push thats the issue.

its looking like the next week the #1 album might not even sell 50k

thats my own estimation not and official projection
[Edited 1/11/07 14:43pm]

asg said:

If that were to happen then things are REALLY bad. I myself haven't bought an album in the last month and only see myself buying one until the spring.

asg said:

Honestly my fingers are crossed that does happen. I really want it to continue happening with releases that labels Promote and Hype to death, sooner or later they will change their ways or just go broke.

asg said:

do sommin' Janet

asg said:

could this mean that people are finally waking up? Maybe people are gonna stop buying crappy CDs altogether There needs to be a revolution in the music business,where people finally say "enough is enough"

lastdecember said:

Lets only hope.

its likely there gonna be 3 weeks below 50k the way things r goin

Exactly!!!!!

vainandy said:

BTW, they play that kind of music a lot here: