NorthernLad said:

you're so post-far behind, you're holding next year's blue ribbon in the slowlane.

HamsterHuey said:

i like to think of what i do less as irony and more as bullshit, thank you.

and i know i'm not alone in this.

Anx said:

I didn't say ALL country and ALL rap is horrible... I just said I don't care for it. That doesn't mean it's horrible at all. It just doesn't appeal to me personally.

I guess I should say "modern country". I do like Johnny Cash. And I like some country-ish stuff, Lucinda Williams and The Eagles for instance. I just don't like the Garth Brooks/Tim McGraw/Toby Keith kinda stuff they play on country radio.

Doesn't mean I'm dissing it - it's just not my bag.

Anx said:

my head's spinning.... I need guidance.... {logs onto Pitchfork}

CinisterCee said:

Does being a Prince fan fall under "irony", or is it hipster-worthy?

I have my street cred to consider.....

Perhaps digging SOTT is ultra-cool, but jamming to Rave is irony?

I'm disappointed in all of you...there is not one use of quotations as being indicative of the so called "irony" anywhere in this post
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NorthernLad said:

i don't even think of most 'modern' country as country. it just sounds like lite rock/adult contemporary with slightly froggier sounding vocals and people who wear cowboy hats and fringed sleeves. if i don't get an instant sense-memory flashback of my grandpa's nicotene-stenched pickup truck when i hear a country song, then it's not country music to me.

i DO know people who just hate entire genres wholesale, and i find that incredibly silly. what if someone comes along and knocks that genre on its ear with something new and completely interesting, but people miss it because "ALL _____ sucks", etc. what's the currency in writing off an entire musical genre? what's the value in it? that's my whole deal. it just irks me.

insomnia said:

LOL. That reminds me of a review I read once of The Wallflowers covering Bowie's "Heroes" (Bowie's original title is in quotes.)

The reviewer said something to the effect that the Wallflowers take on the song was so earnest that it completely missed the irony implicit in Bowie's quotes in the title.

Isn't irony ironic?
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insomnia said:

okay, the whole quotation mark thing is SO steven colbert circa 2002 i can't even find the right words to browbeat you.

Anx said:

You raise a good point. And I guess this the appropriate time to say that I love one particular song by Busta Rhymes - "put your hands where my eyes can see" i think it's called.

the video is just bonkers, in a good way.

And i have Eminem CDs.

So I guess I don't hate ALL rap. Perhaps I should change my mantra to "I tend to listen to rap and country very rarely, but there are a few songs and artists that I dig."

NorthernLad said:

well, so far i can say i don't like any classical opera, but i haven't heard enough of it to really judge it as a whole.

there's not a whole lot of current hip-hop i enjoy, though i can't say i hate all current hip-hop because i looooove everything about the spank rock album. of course, that's probably considered some other genre altogether but it sounds like hip-hop to me.

No. I like taking showers and I don't have to know what "the struggle" is.

But to keep it musical: I'm not involved in a conscious, guilt-inspired cover-up to conciliate a lifestyle or "scene" and will still be listening to dance and retro music once muthafuckas around my age deem it "played out" in a few years -- like they will eventually.



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hipster bingo: http://www.catbirdseat.or...bingo.html

I take it you have to listen to some of that new fangled rock to be a hipster, right? I guess I'm an oldster.

TommyRoss said:

if you have a good enough hairstyle, you can fake it.

Anx said:

Then I'm fucked.

This is pretty funny:

"...which means you run the risk of having to deal with excessive guilt, like the guilt one feels when you have to admit that you don't see why everyone is fussing over The Arcade Fire; this is a feeling that you want to avoid at all costs."

I'm guilty of some of the things in that link, like buying my clothes at thrift stores. But I'm in my 30s now and have been doing that since I was 12, so

I will never, I repeat never endorse Yoko Ono though.

The more I read through this though, I more I recognize the signs.

I thought "emo" was the thing to hate now Who heard about The Killers vs Fall Out Boy drama? Brandon Flowers hates emo bands. It's so high schoolish to see grown ass bands feud like that

AnckSuNamun said:

Hating emo is sooooo two years ago. It's all about hipster-backlash now.

sextonseven said:

hating emo now is like hating the macarena. it's kinda like, well, DUH. unless you're someone's parents and you're at a wedding reception. then i guess hating emo is kind of revolutionary still. kind of like the macarena.

Anx said:

Klosterman has a good bit about this.

I can't remember if it's in the piece that mentions Wilco in Sex, Drugs & Cocoa Puffs, but - if it's not - that's a great piece on country music, as well.

I am a recovering hipster and - lemme tell ya - I have been SAVED, y'all!

Anx said:

I used to dig P.E. until the way the whole Griff sitch was handled. Lost all credibility for me after that.

Ace said:

What did you hate?

Ace said:

'apocalypse 91' still kicks my ass, that's all i know.

Yupster is the new hipster, FYI.

Anx said:

But only a hipster would talk about loving the both of them. It is a fact.

minneapolisgenius said:

oh, i never said i wasn't a hipster. i totally embrace the label, by my own definition. i think i wallow in that fact elsewhere in this thread. please don't make me wallow more. my wallerin' muscles are sore.

AnckSuNamun said:

Oh, my list of things I don't like is still longer than anyone's you'll ever meet (with the possible exception of Fran Lebowitz), but it no longer automatically includes anything that's "commercial".