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PrintableIt's widely known that Matthew Knowles doesn't allow songwriters to work on Beyonce's recordings unless she's included in songwriting credits, whether she contributes or not... They talked about this on Doug Bank's show last year.
Nice try Papa Knowles.... And what kills me, is that she won an ASCAP award for songwriting a few years back....ugh..  [Edited 1/3/07 19:48pm] | |
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ya know...there isn't a songwriting union, is there?
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damn it!! lost a freaken post.  Space for sale... | |
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stinka said: It's widely known that Matthew Knowles doesn't allow songwriters to work on Beyonce's recordings unless she's included in songwriting credits, whether she contributes or not... They talked about this on Doug Bank's show last year.
Nice try Papa Knowles.... And what kills me, is that she won an ASCAP award for songwriting a few years back....ugh..
[Edited 1/3/07 19:48pm] God, if someone put a bullet between Matthew Knowles' eyes, Beyonce's career would be down the toilet because she'd have no idea what the hell to do with herself!  | |
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Rhondab said: Let me just say this about Bouncy and the Dreamgirls.
Beyonce did an ok job in Dreamgirls and I think she does a good song singing Listen. I think she gets dogged unfairly when it comes to Dreamgirls. Yes we all loved Jennifer Hudson's performance. It was GREAT but I'm not doing the comparsion game. I think Beyonce played her part pretty good. but on the topic  My punk ass still hasn't seen the movie BUT in the clip they showed on Oprah of them turning their wigs back, I gotta say that was the first time I thought that the child could act at all. I'm looking forward to seeing her performance & hope he's grown as an actress, especially if she insists on acting up in hea   I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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I love how folks are coming out of know where to post on goldderby...and something tells me those arent oscar wanna be pundit geeks (like tommyross and myself :innocence: )...
anyhoo, this is my fav comment thus far: k, so she wont win an Oscar but he HAIRINAMINUTE.COM weave looks great
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lastdecember said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: In Bouncy's defense, that is the best part of the song! Too bad the whole thing was stolen from Amerie's "1 Thing", when daddy Knowles heard the track and thought it was cool so he had Sony shelve Ameries project so Beyonce could get her hands on that low life Rich Harrison. Both Rich Harrison and Matthew Knowles should have been sued, but hey Amerie at least wont have to worry about KARMA. It wasn't stolen from Amerie.... Both songs came from Rich Harrison | |
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stinka said: And what kills me, is that she won an ASCAP award for songwriting a few years back....ugh..
If that kills you how about this - she's the only black woman to ever win the ASCAP songwriting award. Not Roberta Flack, Valerie Simpson, Angela Winbush, etc. | |
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All this Beyonce publicity is out fo control. Her father needs to get her a damn voice coach for public speaking. She sound so dumb in interviews and has a twang.
As for Jennifer Hudson, she tore that sh*t up! She deserves an Oscar if anyone. She (I think) never did any acting before, didn't have an album before American Idol and she did a helluva job. | |
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TommyRoss said: stinka said: And what kills me, is that she won an ASCAP award for songwriting a few years back....ugh..
If that kills you how about this - she's the only black woman to ever win the ASCAP songwriting award. Not Roberta Flack, Valerie Simpson, Angela Winbush, etc. STOP! Not even Brenda Russell? Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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WOW!
The Gwen, Beyoncé and Madonna hate makes the org come together! | |
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TommyRoss said: stinka said: And what kills me, is that she won an ASCAP award for songwriting a few years back....ugh..
If that kills you how about this - she's the only black woman to ever win the ASCAP songwriting award. Not Roberta Flack, Valerie Simpson, Angela Winbush, etc.  I'm sick and tired of the Prince fans being sick and tired of the Prince fans that are sick and tired! | |
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JackieBlue said: TommyRoss said: If that kills you how about this - she's the only black woman to ever win the ASCAP songwriting award. Not Roberta Flack, Valerie Simpson, Angela Winbush, etc. STOP! Not even Brenda Russell? Nope. Not Donna Summer either. Maybe if one of them wrote Leggylicious or sumpin. | |
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That's really sad. Beyonce knocking out Bootylicious on a plane flight and Roberta, Brenda and Valerie-damn-Simpson playing and writing and composing classics and not an ASCAP amongst them? Sometimes I can't care about stuff anymore just to keep my sanity. [Edited 1/4/07 10:05am] Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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JackieBlue said: Sometimes I just don't can't about stuff anymore just to keep my sanity.
 I'm sick and tired of the Prince fans being sick and tired of the Prince fans that are sick and tired! | |
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Adisa said: JackieBlue said: Sometimes I can't care about stuff anymore just to keep my sanity.
Sorry, I cleaned it up. [Edited 1/4/07 10:05am] Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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JackieBlue said: Adisa said: Sorry, I cleaned it up.
i liked it better the first way. Space for sale... | |
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Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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banks said: lastdecember said: Too bad the whole thing was stolen from Amerie's "1 Thing", when daddy Knowles heard the track and thought it was cool so he had Sony shelve Ameries project so Beyonce could get her hands on that low life Rich Harrison. Both Rich Harrison and Matthew Knowles should have been sued, but hey Amerie at least wont have to worry about KARMA. It wasn't stolen from Amerie.... Both songs came from Rich Harrison Actually it was a theft, which is why Rich Harrison and Amerie have split their partnership in production. Amerie did co-produce and co-write "1 Thing", long before Beyonce's "crazy in love" was born. But Matt Knowles heard the track at a Sony office and made sure the track didnt get out, AND made sure he got Rich Harrison on Beyonce's team since she needed something new and fresh coming out of Destiny Child. Well like they say money talks and Producers are nothing more than Beats for hire at this point. Amerie's track got shelved, Rich worked with Beyonce, so by the time Amerie came out, she looked like the wanna-be-yonce, though she did it first, though Amerie would still score a Top 10 hit and Gold record, she obviously saw the writing on the wall so to speak. But it would happen again, Amerie's track "Talkin Bout" would also GET shelved as the third single as Beyonce worked on her second solo record and Bam there you had "FreakUm Dress". Well you can see why Rich Harrison is non existent on Amerie's upcoming project and circulating RB mix tape, though she gets a good shot in with a song that is very similar to Beyonces/Harrisons "Green Light". "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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I loves me some Beyonce but her daddy does some wrong stuff on the business tip... | |
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You people are so naive. It is common practice for a singer's name to be put on the writer credits of a song to make them seem "authentic". I could give you recent examples that I know of where a singer unconnected with the writing of a song got 60% of the writer royalties. | |
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lastdecember said: banks said: It wasn't stolen from Amerie.... Both songs came from Rich Harrison Actually it was a theft, which is why Rich Harrison and Amerie have split their partnership in production. Amerie did co-produce and co-write "1 Thing", long before Beyonce's "crazy in love" was born. But Matt Knowles heard the track at a Sony office and made sure the track didnt get out, AND made sure he got Rich Harrison on Beyonce's team since she needed something new and fresh coming out of Destiny Child. Well like they say money talks and Producers are nothing more than Beats for hire at this point. Amerie's track got shelved, Rich worked with Beyonce, so by the time Amerie came out, she looked like the wanna-be-yonce, though she did it first, though Amerie would still score a Top 10 hit and Gold record, she obviously saw the writing on the wall so to speak. But it would happen again, Amerie's track "Talkin Bout" would also GET shelved as the third single as Beyonce worked on her second solo record and Bam there you had "FreakUm Dress". Well you can see why Rich Harrison is non existent on Amerie's upcoming project and circulating RB mix tape, though she gets a good shot in with a song that is very similar to Beyonces/Harrisons "Green Light". So, did J. Lo steal that beat from Amerie or Beyonce? I'm soo confused.Prince Rogers Nelson
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JesseDezz said: It was/is? a common practice. Leonard Chess and people he owed favors to were counted as "songwriters" on many Chess artists' records, when in fact, he nor his business associates wrote a word or strummed a chord. Berry Gordy was also known to change a word or two in a song and get credit as a co-writer...
[Edited 1/2/07 19:54pm] THAT BECAUSE WRITE SONG MEAN GET POINT IT ABOUT MONEY ALL PART OF DEAL WITH DEVIL! P o o |/, P o o |\ | |
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