WildheartXXX said:

No doubt. Nirvana was okay but I couldnt get into the other acts though that followed. They were plain boring and bunch of crying bitches.
I listen to some heavy metal songs over the weekend and when I seen it on VH1 classics makes me miss it even more.

ladygirl99 said:

Crying bytches!

But seriously, Soundgarden was OK because of Black Hole Sun. But everyone else from Seattle were a bunch of depressing people making music.
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ladygirl99 said:

yep every weekend is Metal Mania

WildheartXXX said:

the thing is they "say" people were tired of Metal that was popular in the late 80's and early 90's but the way i remember it back then was the people didnt change themselves.. MTV forced it on us...it was about 1992 and i turned on MTV one night i couldnt believe the change in videos i was seeing..it was like they changed rotation overnight they went from playing Def Leppard and Motley Crue to Nirvana
& the Stone Temple Pilots.....it was like the record companies and MTV forced the change...thats what i'm hoping happens now but the only problem with that is MTV is no longer a music factor and who knows what radio will do
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Mazerati said:

I agree with U both!
All though I liked some of the grunge-crap,Nirvana's best songs,Pearl Jam's first 3 hits and Soundgarden and I liked The Pixies be4 the grunge hype.

It's strange but in Europe all the critics were so glad Grunge killed that ridicilous genre called Heavy Metal and Hair Metal!!!
My fav radiostation(plays rock,rap,funk,pop and much more as long it isn't 2 commercial or 2 stupid)still won't play The Crue or Def Leppard because the genre isn't respected.Only Metallica(wich was huge during the grunge period)
or AC/DC get some airplay and every Halloween they play Iron Maiden's Number of the beast,that's it.
It has been this way in the early 80's,when New Wave got a lot of respect and Hard Rock didn't get none,New Wavers were cool and intelligent people,Hard Rockers stupid and dirty,it was the same in the 90's.

I always thought,listen 2 the music first and then judge it.
Why is Smells like teen spirit ok and is The Crue's Dr Feelgood shit?

Paisley4u said:

it seems to be a bit different here in the U,S Motley Crue,Queensryche,Poison,Def Leppard all had top 20 albums here in 2006 and the Guns N Roses greatest hits cd was on the album chart for over 2 years and every weekend on vh1 classic there is a total of 5 hours of metal videos played on vh-1 classic showing these groups....i miss fun rock...Nirvana never appealed to me because they were just so damn depressing

Fortunaly I also listened 2 other music.
Nothing wrong with good lyrics or serious subjects one in a while but they sure took all the fun out of rock music.

I always followed the US charts more than most European ones,except when Prince had more hits overhere in the late 80's
I noticed Motley and others had hit albums in the US,it's great 2 know they still are appreciated.

Actually, there was still a lot of funk around in the late 1980s such as Prince and his protegees, Jesse Johnson, and Morris Day. Also there was Madame X, Ready For The World, The Jets, Krystol, Chaka Khan, and several others that were copying that Minneapolis Sound during the late 1980s after Prince abandoned it.

Several of the funk groups that had been around such as Cameo, The Barkays, Midnight Star, The Gap Band, and Zapp were still around too but dong weaker funk than they had previously done in the past. Part of it was chasing new trends at the time such as rap, and a big part of it was trying to make something that might crossover.

The biggest, and I do mean biggest thing that killed funk, was newcomers coming out making albums full of ballads and not one jam on the damn album. They weren't even good slow jams either like Cameo used to make, they were adult contemporary sounding ones. Folks like Shitney Houston, Anita Baker, Freddie Jackson, Luther Vandross (he had gotten much more AC sounding by then), Keith Sweat, Miki Howard, etc. They were dominating R&B radio at that time.

They weren't quite the norm yet but they were getting there. By that time, there were several albums by rap groups such as....

Run DMC
Grandmaster Flash
Whodini
The Fat Boys
The LA Dream Team
The Egyptian Lover
UTFO
Kurtis Blow
The 2 Live Crew
Salt and Pepa (I think, or maybe it was 1988)
Newcleus

It was still mostly 12 Inches but more and more of them were starting to make full albums once their 12 Inch got popular.

vainandy said:

I know U don't like(c)rap or hip hop,but what do U think about hits like Me so horny by 2live crew or Baby got back by Sir-mix-a lot?
Or the first 2 albums from De La Soul?
The tempo was still faster than these days and one could still dance 2 it.

I think New Jack Swing also killed Funk

I loved 2 Live Crew since as far back as 1985 when they did "Throw The Dick" on 12 Inch before the album. I bought almost all their albums up until Luke's "Scarred" album around 1997. They were still OK but they seemed to be doing the same thing over and over.



I love that one too. Also, "Square Dance Rap", "Let's G", "I'm A Trip", and "Put 'Em On The Glass".



I didn't care for them.



Exactly. I didn't start hating it until it became midtempo and stripped down. Also, when they started using those weak sounding drum machines that sound like they came from K-Mart.



During that era, there were two types of people....house people and new jack people. I was a house person. I didn't care for very little new jack. To me, it sounded like cheaply made funk. It had the same tempo but the drum machines they used sounded horrible. It did seem to have much more mainstream appeal and impact than house did which had much stronger sounding drum machines.

I felt the same about NJS,I did like My Prerogative from Bobby Brown
I guess U listened 2 American House,where it all began,because European house was a lot of bleep bleep ,some had a good/heavy beat
but after a few songs I got a headache!!
And I used 2 listen 2 rock/metal,so I was used 2 loud music.

As I remember American House had strong vocalists on their records.

Yeah, it was mostly American (I guess). Although, some people have called some of it Italian. Seems like once it went totally European, it started sounding all acid or trance sounding. That's when I dropped it.

vainandy said:

I'm very surprise to see the name of Keith Sweat being mention as an anti-funk, considering that he was one of the forerunners of New Jack Swing at the time.
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vainandy said:

And please don't forget about LL Cool J.

I remember all too well that his name was being mention within the same mainstream spotlight as Michael, Prince, & Madonna. I think LL was one of the first wave of rap artists to be invited to The Grammy Awards (I think!)....and his assign seat was right next to Madonna's at that. What a scene that was back in the day!


The bells are circulatin' the blood in your veins
Why are girlies on the tip, L.L.'s your name
Cut Creator's good, Cool J. is good-good
You bring the wood pecker, I'll bring the wood
The bells are wippin' and rippin' at your body and soul
Why do you like Cool J., we like rock and roll
Cause it ain't the glory days with Bruce Springsteen
I'm not a virgin so I know I'll make Madonna scream
You hated Michael and Prince all the way, ever sense
If their beats were made of meat, then they would have to be mince
Rock the bells

--LL Cool J, Rock The Bells
http://www.elyrics4u.com/...cool_j.htm

Paisley4u said:

Yeah, I'm going to have to disagree with that. The real New Jack Swing (from Teddy Riley) seemed like a natural extension or progression of funk. The stuff he was doing (like "My Prerogative," "Groove Me," "Spend the Night," and "Him or Me") was a blend of funk and soul with hip-hop beats.

I mean, MTV didn't even make Yo! MTV Raps until like `89? How could adding rap to a record in 1987 be something people would bet on for crossing over?

I actually agree with what VainAndy said here:

vainandy said:

VoicesCarry said:

Me too. Late 90s and early Y2Ks when the biggest stars in the world were Puffy/Diddy, J-Lo, Britney, Destiny's Child, N'Sync, Master P... Awful.