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Thread started 12/29/06 8:31pm

KingKrazy

Laface cookie cutter style at it's worst

Pebbles - Giving You The Benefit
http://www.youtube.com/wa...V-l9rpI0g0

BObby Brown - On Our own
http://www.youtube.com/wa...dFUkIrZgBg

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Reply #1 posted 12/29/06 8:38pm

TommyRoss

I've always thought those two songs sounded exactly alike. It never bothered me, but then again I never thought LaFace's sound was all that original. Distinct, yes, but not original.
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Reply #2 posted 12/29/06 8:43pm

TonyVanDam

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TommyRoss said:

I've always thought those two songs sounded exactly alike. It never bothered me, but then again I never thought LaFace's sound was all that original. Distinct, yes, but not original.


NEWSFLASH Tommy & Krazy:

Those two tracks are THE same song! Typical production skills of Antonio "LA" Reid & Kenneth "Babyface" Edmonds within life after The Deele.

BTW, I love On Our Own way better.

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Reply #3 posted 12/29/06 9:43pm

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Try pairing on our own with after 7's only mistake heat of the moment
Same song with different lyrics. Face was okay as a solo artist but he
lost his funkiness after the deele.
Don't laugh at my funk
This funk is a serious joint
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Reply #4 posted 12/30/06 3:54am

AlexdeParis

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I love all of those songs, but "Giving You the Benefit" would have to be my favorite. It made my top 5 Babyface Songs. "On Our Own" was in the top 20 and "Heat of the Moment" also fared pretty well. BTW, there are enough differences for me. For starters, I like the baseline in the Pebbles song better.

6 Degrees of Separation: After 7 sings the "work" backing vocals in "Giving You the Benefit" and Bobby's hit "Every Little Step" is about Pebbles.

BTW, the possessive "its" doesn't have an apostrophe.
[Edited 12/30/06 4:03am]
"Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis
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Reply #5 posted 12/30/06 6:02am

CalhounSq

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Speaking of LaFace, WHY did I have Babyface's "Saturday" in my player the other day eek

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Reply #6 posted 12/30/06 7:53pm

ABeautifulOne

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CalhounSq said:

Speaking of LaFace, WHY did I have Babyface's "Saturday" in my player the other day eek

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I actually liked Staurday even though the lyrics seem a bit corny...
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Reply #7 posted 12/30/06 11:38pm

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ABeautifulOne said:

CalhounSq said:

Speaking of LaFace, WHY did I have Babyface's "Saturday" in my player the other day eek

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I actually liked Staurday even though the lyrics seem a bit corny...

It is pretty corny, but I still dig it confused
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Reply #8 posted 12/31/06 7:39am

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I love me some Pebbles "Giving You The Benefit"...

hey, lets not forget Karyn White's soundalike.
Space for sale...
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Reply #9 posted 12/31/06 2:45pm

AlexdeParis

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sosgemini said:

I love me some Pebbles "Giving You The Benefit"...

highfive I especially liked it when they started the video version with the "I could be a trip but I choose not to" part. That's hot!

Speaking of hot... mmm, Pebbles... drool
"Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis
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Reply #10 posted 12/31/06 4:17pm

TonyVanDam

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sosgemini said:

I love me some Pebbles "Giving You The Benefit"...

hey, lets not forget Karyn White's soundalike.



I love Karyn White (even if she is another Janet-clone!).dancing jig
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Reply #11 posted 12/31/06 4:32pm

VinnyM27

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TonyVanDam said:

TommyRoss said:

I've always thought those two songs sounded exactly alike. It never bothered me, but then again I never thought LaFace's sound was all that original. Distinct, yes, but not original.


NEWSFLASH Tommy & Krazy:

Those two tracks are THE same song! Typical production skills of Antonio "LA" Reid & Kenneth "Babyface" Edmonds within life after The Deele.

BTW, I love On Our Own way better.

wink


But it's the same song! smile
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Reply #12 posted 12/31/06 4:32pm

VinnyM27

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TonyVanDam said:

sosgemini said:

I love me some Pebbles "Giving You The Benefit"...

hey, lets not forget Karyn White's soundalike.



I love Karyn White (even if she is another Janet-clone!).dancing jig


Wasn't she supposed to release an album this year...That's one I'm looking forward to.
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Reply #13 posted 12/31/06 4:34pm

CinisterCee

That's not fair. disbelief Same production techniques and instruments (ok, orchestra hit synth patch) but you could say the same about any "signature sound".

Why are we hating on Laface? confused
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Reply #14 posted 12/31/06 4:44pm

TommyRoss

CinisterCee said:

That's not fair. disbelief Same production techniques and instruments (ok, orchestra hit synth patch) but you could say the same about any "signature sound".

Why are we hating on Laface? confused

I wanna retire the word "hating" from this forum. lol I like LaFace, but the fact is that those two songs sound exactly alike. I love Jam & Lewis, too and some of their songs also suffer from the same problem.
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Reply #15 posted 12/31/06 5:19pm

AlexdeParis

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TommyRoss said:

CinisterCee said:

That's not fair. disbelief Same production techniques and instruments (ok, orchestra hit synth patch) but you could say the same about any "signature sound".

Why are we hating on Laface? confused

I wanna retire the word "hating" from this forum. lol I like LaFace, but the fact is that those two songs sound exactly alike. I love Jam & Lewis, too and some of their songs also suffer from the same problem.

No, it's not a fact. The songs are strikingly similar, but there are quite a few differences.
"Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis
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Reply #16 posted 12/31/06 5:47pm

TommyRoss

AlexdeParis said:

TommyRoss said:


I wanna retire the word "hating" from this forum. lol I like LaFace, but the fact is that those two songs sound exactly alike. I love Jam & Lewis, too and some of their songs also suffer from the same problem.

No, it's not a fact. The songs are strikingly similar, but there are quite a few differences.

Oh, good Lord. They sound too much alike is what I'm saying.
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Reply #17 posted 12/31/06 5:51pm

VoicesCarry

TommyRoss said:

AlexdeParis said:


No, it's not a fact. The songs are strikingly similar, but there are quite a few differences.

Oh, good Lord. They sound too much alike is what I'm saying.


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Reply #18 posted 12/31/06 5:52pm

CinisterCee

TommyRoss said:

AlexdeParis said:


No, it's not a fact. The songs are strikingly similar, but there are quite a few differences.

Oh, good Lord. They sound too much alike is what I'm saying.


bitchfight

beeee-eeeeiiiitch
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Reply #19 posted 12/31/06 5:53pm

TommyRoss

CinisterCee said:

TommyRoss said:


Oh, good Lord. They sound too much alike is what I'm saying.


bitchfight

beeee-eeeeiiiitch

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Reply #20 posted 12/31/06 9:20pm

TonyVanDam

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VinnyM27 said:

TonyVanDam said:



NEWSFLASH Tommy & Krazy:

Those two tracks are THE same song! Typical production skills of Antonio "LA" Reid & Kenneth "Babyface" Edmonds within life after The Deele.

BTW, I love On Our Own way better.

wink


But it's the same song! smile


I know! But no one could bring the energy to those tracks like Bobby Brown did in those late 80's, not even Pebbies.
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Reply #21 posted 12/31/06 9:24pm

TonyVanDam

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CinisterCee said:

That's not fair. disbelief Same production techniques and instruments (ok, orchestra hit synth patch) but you could say the same about any "signature sound".

Why are we hating on Laface? confused


Remember the thread starter KingKrazy? That little boy HATES black artists that make people dance too fast.

THIS is the same dude that hated Oaktown's 357 for the same reason.

rolleyes disbelief
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Reply #22 posted 12/31/06 10:27pm

CinisterCee

TonyVanDam said:

Remember the thread starter KingKrazy? That little boy HATES black artists that make people dance too fast.

THIS is the same dude that hated Oaktown's 357 for the same reason.
rolleyes disbelief


LOL How could he? disbelief

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Reply #23 posted 01/01/07 12:02am

TonyVanDam

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CinisterCee said:

TonyVanDam said:

Remember the thread starter KingKrazy? That little boy HATES black artists that make people dance too fast.

THIS is the same dude that hated Oaktown's 357 for the same reason.
rolleyes disbelief


LOL How could he? disbelief

lol


It's one thing for Krazy to diss Kid'N Play. But 357 too? F*** that. I say let's make hip-hop danceable again!
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Reply #24 posted 01/01/07 12:30am

CinisterCee

TonyVanDam said:

[b]It's one thing for Krazy to diss Kid'N Play


omfg Oh no he di'int! no no no!
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Reply #25 posted 01/01/07 5:59am

AlexdeParis

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KingKrazy is just a huge Bobby Brown fan.

As far as the songs being too similar, I think it helps that the vocalists are different genders. FWIW, the songs hit #1 on the R&B chart a little more than a year apart.
"Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis
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Reply #26 posted 01/01/07 11:51am

TonyVanDam

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AlexdeParis said:

KingKrazy is just a huge Bobby Brown fan.

As far as the songs being too similar, I think it helps that the vocalists are different genders. FWIW, the songs hit #1 on the R&B chart a little more than a year apart.


He also loves to make excuses for 50 Cent too.
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Reply #27 posted 01/01/07 6:16pm

thesexofit

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Other songs that sound like those 2:


Jermaine Jackson- you said you said (friggin' love that song)
Laface cartel- reversal of a dog (off the "boomerang" OST)



"you said you said (i'll be alright)....."
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Reply #28 posted 01/01/07 9:06pm

JesseDezz

I wonder if LaFace's "cookie cutter style" is a reflection of their (namely BabyFace's) musical limitations on keyboard - for instance, maybe only being able to play in certain keys. That would certainly breed too much familarity. One of the last bands I played in "featured" a keyboard player who could only play in a few keys, mainly F#. Whenever we played the songs he wrote back to back, it sounded like one looonnnnggg song in F#...
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Reply #29 posted 01/01/07 11:08pm

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JesseDezz said:

I wonder if LaFace's "cookie cutter style" is a reflection of their (namely BabyFace's) musical limitations on keyboard - for instance, maybe only being able to play in certain keys. That would certainly breed too much familarity. One of the last bands I played in "featured" a keyboard player who could only play in a few keys, mainly F#. Whenever we played the songs he wrote back to back, it sounded like one looonnnnggg song in F#...



? But once babyface ditched LA Reid, his albums got boring quickly. I think Babyface and Reid stopped working as partners around 1993. Laface never did do any newjack songs, but I guess you could call then newjack lite LOL. The stuff they did with Jermaine Jackson was pretty good.
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