AlexdeParis said:

yeah, the funk and soul musicians are a rare breed in the "majors."

Adisa said:

I didn't realize the org rules were so strict.

stopHATING said:

It ain't ova. It ain't ova. The party ain't ova . . .

I fail to see what your problem is, `HATING. So James Brown eclipses any of these cats, amd created hip-hop. That's painfully, colossally obvious to everyone (though your implication that James is better than Prince isn't a slam-dunk).

Why hate on Van, `HATIN? Aren't you supposed to stop that?

What the hell does James being an icon have to do with Van or (fill in the blank) the musician(s)?

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namepeace said:

Hahaha !!!
I Loved that "Teddy" quote that was perfect
yo, NameP I'm not hating my screename WON'T allow it
but, People try to shit on Hip-Hop & it's wrong man
the pupil will never one up the teacher re: JB
I feel bad for Van, but I'm not gonna defend him either
He chose to re-hash instead of REALLY making some changes with the music
when prince did go commercial it was BRILLIANT !!
remember the ending vamp to "I wanna be your Lover ?"
NOTHING Van Ever wrote fucks with that. and again, I LIKE VAN HUNT !!

stopHATING said:

Prince has faded so much here you are on his fan web site as a music authority.

Slave2daGroove said:

c'mon man why you trynna fuck wit me , dogg
I'm here cause the man WAS that dude & still is relatively.
don't take it there man. Peep the screename

stopHATING said:

Okay, I gotcha, my bad . . . and I wish I had that Teddy line as a wav or something . . .

As an avid hip-hop head, I happen to agree with you, I get caught on both sides of the hip-hop divide here. On the whole, hip-hop changed the world, in large part, to the good. Today's hip-hop scene has cashed in on prior generations of work, but whether modern artists have lived up to the legacy is a much different story for another thread.

so we both dig Van. I think where we differ is on the content of Van's new material. Like Prince, he draws on a lot of influences. And like Prince, at least to me, he is mostly successful in incorporating them into his own sound. Unlike Prince, he lacks the savvy and resources needed to really get over. His lack of stage/camera presence is part of that. If he cut a video with a fraction of the energy of "Little Red Corvette" or "Kiss" he'd really be in much better shape.

Prince's legacy is still being written, to an extent. I agree that James looms larger, but what I was saying is that putting him behind James in line isn't that easy. The right result, but not that easy. I say Prince is the best solo artist since Jimi Hendrix for good reasons, and those reasons are Jimi, Sly, Stevie, Ray and yes Soul Brother No. 1.

and soul..

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namepeace said:

DAMN , THANK YOU NAMEPEACE !!!
would EVERYBODY PLEASE READ these sentences below :



NOW, this post IS Ova !!
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stopHATING said:

not tryin to fuck wit cha dogg but you seem to be doin all the hatin...I guess I just don't see things as black and white as you do...Prince and all MUSICIANS mentioned are still rollin and we've yet to hear their best...like wine MUSICANS get better with age...

my point from the beginning was that nobody worked to sell this artist and it showed...as far as "channeling" Curtis...Lenny Kravitz made his whole career on that but with the marketing machine of his label...

not trying to be offensive just having an opinion...much love in 2007

Slave2daGroove said:

IT's all Love , Slave2the G
but, again VAN really & truly AIN'T that Dude. he's Nice but...
If he'd given them something to work with... they're in the Biz to Make money
They ( EMI ) tried & Van just DIDN'T have it LIKE THAT !
Van could've carried HIMSELF if his Stage & everything else was in tact

Ho - ly crap.



OTJF is one of the year's best.

Fauxie said:

America still loves hip-hop/r&b and country. THAT'S the real problem.

Van Hunt is better off promoting his music in Europe & Asia.

This really hurts me. He is one of my favorite artists.

i'm not a van hunt fan...at all but this does suck.

stopHATING said:

If VH ain't truly that Dude, as u put it, the same could be said about 95% of hipopaz around, and I ain't a fan of VH but at least he is trying to put 2 notes together and just for that he deserves some respect.

it was clearly coming,

ever since his tour got fucked up, thanks 2 their support

Adisa said:

doegx said:

It does seem he lacks the stage presence, but his albums are two of my favourites of the last few years, in soul/RnB or otherwise. I hate how artists like Van Hunt, and even more Rahsaan Patterson (heard a brand new track the other day - wow!)), never quite get the recognition they deserve (and VH has admittedly had quite a bit of attention from some quarters).

i like Van Hunt, he's cool and all, but he's not my favorite artist and his latest album isn't THE BEST album i heard in '06. He got some good cuts on there, but i still found myself skipping a track here and there. I'd rather see Bilal be put up on a pedestal higher than this guy.

sextonseven said:

missfee said:

Bilal?

AlexdeParis said:

yes that's what i said, Bilal. he's an extremely underrated artist, and very talented vocally.
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if this is true, it's not that big of a surprise

in response 2 the he's not the "one" or anything relating 2 that is a matter of OPINION.The problem with today's music listener is that we (Prince fans) are for a lack of better of words, looking 4 the ladder. Instead of finding faults
with a certain artist such as Van, why not SUPPORT him? He's only had 2 projects and he's a failure? We were lucky to have experienced someone like Prince in our lifetime.Whether or not someone like that will reappear is up 2 us. We need 2 support artists like Van so the record companies will see that there's an audience 4 that. Then the gates will open and MAYBE that ONE we r a ll searching 4 will appear.Do u think Prince would have been able 2 do what he did in '78 without the success of Stevie and his multi-instrumentation success? NOPE

If I'm not mistaken, he has one more album on his contract with Capitol/EMI and then they can choose to keep him or drop him...

missfee said:

Bilal is a great talent. I wish he were more prolific, but I imagine he's going through similar label woes, as I mentioned above, because he doesn't fit the current R&B mode and it's much harder for actual musicians to get love on the pop scene these days without a rapper on your record or putting you over (see, John Legend). Hell, even hip-hop bands have problems getting over (see, the Roots). Van's story is reflective of the state of black music as we know it today.

namepeace said:

What's that?

Adisa said:

I don't know . . . something having to do with Laffy Taffy and low-hanging chains.

wow, I totally saw this one coming