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Thread started 12/28/06 12:29pm

Fauxie

Van Hunt to be dropped by EMI

What's up with that? t'other day was surprised to hear he's to be dropped. VH isn't that uncommercial surely, and it's a given that he's fantastic from the aspect that counts. What on earth is happening to music when a great talent like Van Hunt can get the boot by his label? confuse
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Reply #1 posted 12/28/06 1:34pm

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Fauxie said:

What's up with that? t'other day was surprised to hear he's to be dropped. VH isn't that uncommercial surely, and it's a given that he's fantastic from the aspect that counts. What on earth is happening to music when a great talent like Van Hunt can get the boot by his label? confuse

one word: money
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Reply #2 posted 12/28/06 1:36pm

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Van Hunt needs to be more crunk next time.
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #3 posted 12/28/06 1:40pm

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Nooooo! Well, I guess we saw it coming.
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Reply #4 posted 12/28/06 1:41pm

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It's sad, but not unexpected. I'll track down and buy his next album regardless.
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Reply #5 posted 12/28/06 1:59pm

Slave2daGroove

Muthafuckas didn't even promote that last amazing piece of work and now their dropping him? disbelief

I want to start a record label for artists like this, he's a talent that needs someone busting their ass promoting. I mean, WTF!
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Reply #6 posted 12/28/06 2:08pm

Stymie

Wow, that's fucked up. On The Jungle Floor was one of the best albums of the year. disbelief
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Reply #7 posted 12/28/06 2:10pm

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Nah...for reel fo reel ?
In a world of "there's only ONE good song on the cd"
Van should've played the game & did the opposite
and, gave the label what they & the public needed.
ONE Bullshit trendy song & have the rest of the cd to play with.
Van shot himself in the foot on this one.
Hell , even PRINCE knew better when the 2nd lp was released
P went TOTALLY commercial ! And, there's still one thing folks are forgetting
He ain't Prince. shit he ain't even D'angelo. and, I like Van Hunt, btw
but, let's be real.
[Edited 12/28/06 14:11pm]
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Reply #8 posted 12/28/06 2:32pm

Slave2daGroove

stopHATING said:

Nah...for reel fo reel ?
In a world of "there's only ONE good song on the cd"
Van should've played the game & did the opposite
and, gave the label what they & the public needed.
ONE Bullshit trendy song & have the rest of the cd to play with.
Van shot himself in the foot on this one.
Hell , even PRINCE knew better when the 2nd lp was released
P went TOTALLY commercial ! And, there's still one thing folks are forgetting
He ain't Prince. shit he ain't even D'angelo. and, I like Van Hunt, btw
but, let's be real.
[Edited 12/28/06 14:11pm]


falloff like this matters...

"bullshit trendy song" like they did 30 years ago? confuse

It's a different time and this album did not have the backing from EMI in marketing to promote it. The truth is told when he cuts the tour after a few dates. Talent and good music can only make it if it has the proper promotion...ask Goldfrapp and their Target deal.
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Reply #9 posted 12/28/06 2:36pm

namepeace

stopHATING said:

Nah...for reel fo reel ?
In a world of "there's only ONE good song on the cd"
Van should've played the game & did the opposite
and, gave the label what they & the public needed.
ONE Bullshit trendy song & have the rest of the cd to play with.
Van shot himself in the foot on this one.
Hell , even PRINCE knew better when the 2nd lp was released
P went TOTALLY commercial ! And, there's still one thing folks are forgetting
He ain't Prince. shit he ain't even D'angelo. and, I like Van Hunt, btw
but, let's be real.
[Edited 12/28/06 14:11pm]


2 points:

1. Prince never had to take on the hit-pop monster. When Prince "hit his big lick," disco was dead, punk was being cleaned up for the masses, new wave was at its peak, rap was on the rise, and the 60's and 70's icons were dead, dissolved or fading. Prince along with Michael stepped in and filled a growing void in the music scene.

Today's r&b and soul musicians have to contend with a completely different and dominant form of pop that doesn't lend itself well to music. Much of the music audience buying records grew up on hip-hop, not music. So whereas hip-hop used to try to embrace musicians, now it's vice-versa. Black musicians have to do so to sell or they get kicked to the curb. Van, if this story is true, is the latest casualty. Even talented cats like Maxwell, D'Angelo and Bilal, who have been savvier in their embrace of hip-hop, take a long time in putting out records, presumably because in part, they'd be hard to market.

2. You're right to the extent that Van should have gone with "Being A Girl" out of the gate.
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Reply #10 posted 12/28/06 2:41pm

sallysassalot

i really never heard the hype in this guy. at one point, everybody on this board (it seemed, anyway) was talking this dude up. then i listened and i thought "for real? this is what peeps are going ape shit over?"
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Reply #11 posted 12/28/06 2:44pm

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I think Van wanted out of the deal. They did little to nothing to promote the album. If he went independent it wouldn't matter, its almost as if he was a underground artist anyway, his record sold through word of mouth for the most part.


He wanted a video for being a girl, he recently told fans on myspace that they could shoot videos for him if they wanted. The label didn't even want to invest money and take a chance to see if he would catch on. My whole thing is why the hell did they even sign him in the first place if they didn't want to promote??
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Reply #12 posted 12/28/06 2:45pm

purplerein

EMI is bleeding money. If the Beatles "love" cd hadn't of been released and sold so many copies, the company probably would have gone belly up..
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Reply #13 posted 12/28/06 2:48pm

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sallysassalot said:

i really never heard the hype in this guy. at one point, everybody on this board (it seemed, anyway) was talking this dude up. then i listened and i thought "for real? this is what peeps are going ape shit over?"

lol That's happened to me with several artists who receive(d) a lot of mention on this site, including Hunt. He's better when writing and producing for others IMO.
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Reply #14 posted 12/28/06 2:51pm

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Adisa said:

sallysassalot said:

i really never heard the hype in this guy. at one point, everybody on this board (it seemed, anyway) was talking this dude up. then i listened and i thought "for real? this is what peeps are going ape shit over?"

lol That's happened to me with several artists who receive(d) a lot of mention on this site, including Hunt. He's better when writing and producing for others IMO.



I think we all found it refreshing to hear genuine song writing and good song writing at that.
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Reply #15 posted 12/28/06 2:54pm

Adisa

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Meloh9 said:

My whole thing is why the hell did they even sign him in the first place if they didn't want to promote??

I wonder this about all the dozens of artists like Van, past and present. Oh well. Gerald Levert was in the business for 20 years, but as a solo artist never went platinum. Maybe Van should think outside the box a little bit if he's serious about being an artist.
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Reply #16 posted 12/28/06 2:54pm

Adisa

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Meloh9 said:

Adisa said:


lol That's happened to me with several artists who receive(d) a lot of mention on this site, including Hunt. He's better when writing and producing for others IMO.



I think we all found it refreshing to hear genuine song writing and good song writing at that.

It never went away.
I'm sick and tired of the Prince fans being sick and tired of the Prince fans that are sick and tired!
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Reply #17 posted 12/28/06 2:55pm

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WHAT THE FUCK???? whofarted NOOOOO!!!! fit chair stab mad pissed





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Reply #18 posted 12/28/06 2:56pm

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CalhounSq said:

WHAT THE FUCK???? whofarted NOOOOO!!!! fit chair stab mad pissed





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batting eyes You know I'll take care of you, baby, right?
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Reply #19 posted 12/28/06 2:58pm

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Adisa said:

CalhounSq said:

WHAT THE FUCK???? whofarted NOOOOO!!!! fit chair stab mad pissed





sad

batting eyes You know I'll take care of you, baby, right?


touched Hold me cry
heart prince I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it prince heart
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Reply #20 posted 12/28/06 2:58pm

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Adisa said:

Meloh9 said:




I think we all found it refreshing to hear genuine song writing and good song writing at that.

It never went away.



maybe but there is not nearly enough of it these days, also about the lack of promotion, I think there is a such thing as an artist being a tax write off.
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Reply #21 posted 12/28/06 2:59pm

Adisa

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CalhounSq said:

Adisa said:


batting eyes You know I'll take care of you, baby, right?


touched Hold me cry

Right after I take you shoe shopping. I promise. touched
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Reply #22 posted 12/28/06 3:02pm

namepeace

Meloh9 said:

Adisa said:


lol That's happened to me with several artists who receive(d) a lot of mention on this site, including Hunt. He's better when writing and producing for others IMO.



I think we all found it refreshing to hear genuine song writing and good song writing at that.


Thank you.
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Reply #23 posted 12/28/06 3:02pm

VoicesCarry

EVERYONE gets dropped from EMI.

This is good - he can now move on to a label that actually respects its artists.
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Reply #24 posted 12/28/06 3:02pm

wonder505

that's a shame. I actually found out about this guy on the Org and went to his myspace to listen to a couple of songs and like them very much. I was wondering why I never heard of this guy, his songs are great.
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Reply #25 posted 12/28/06 3:10pm

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Adisa said:

sallysassalot said:

i really never heard the hype in this guy. at one point, everybody on this board (it seemed, anyway) was talking this dude up. then i listened and i thought "for real? this is what peeps are going ape shit over?"

lol That's happened to me with several artists who receive(d) a lot of mention on this site, including Hunt. He's better when writing and producing for others IMO.


Whom do you two think is better in that particular genre today? Just curious.
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Reply #26 posted 12/28/06 3:15pm

Adisa

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sextonseven said:

Adisa said:


lol That's happened to me with several artists who receive(d) a lot of mention on this site, including Hunt. He's better when writing and producing for others IMO.


Whom do you two think is better in that particular genre today? Just curious.

Different topic for a different thread, dude. Orgnote me if you must.
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Reply #27 posted 12/28/06 3:18pm

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namepeace said:

stopHATING said:

Nah...for reel fo reel ?
In a world of "there's only ONE good song on the cd"
Van should've played the game & did the opposite
and, gave the label what they & the public needed.
ONE Bullshit trendy song & have the rest of the cd to play with.
Van shot himself in the foot on this one.
Hell , even PRINCE knew better when the 2nd lp was released
P went TOTALLY commercial ! And, there's still one thing folks are forgetting
He ain't Prince. shit he ain't even D'angelo. and, I like Van Hunt, btw
but, let's be real.
[Edited 12/28/06 14:11pm]


2 points:

1. Prince never had to take on the hit-pop monster. When Prince "hit his big lick," disco was dead, punk was being cleaned up for the masses, new wave was at its peak, rap was on the rise, and the 60's and 70's icons were dead, dissolved or fading. Prince along with Michael stepped in and filled a growing void in the music scene.

Today's r&b and soul musicians have to contend with a completely different and dominant form of pop that doesn't lend itself well to music. Much of the music audience buying records grew up on hip-hop, not music. So whereas hip-hop used to try to embrace musicians, now it's vice-versa. Black musicians have to do so to sell or they get kicked to the curb. Van, if this story is true, is the latest casualty. Even talented cats like Maxwell, D'Angelo and Bilal, who have been savvier in their embrace of hip-hop, take a long time in putting out records, presumably because in part, they'd be hard to market.

2. You're right to the extent that Van should have gone with "Being A Girl" out of the gate.

3. He isn't Prince or D'Angelo, but since the former is not at his prime and the latter is MIA, he's as good as it gets right now.
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Reply #28 posted 12/28/06 3:21pm

doegx

what bothers me the most is that Van Hunt is managed by Randy Jackson and with the exposure that Jackson gets on American Idol, he has people like Van and Nikka Costa on his roster and hasnt used the connection to expose them more, I never will understand that
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Reply #29 posted 12/28/06 3:28pm

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doegx said:

what bothers me the most is that Van Hunt is managed by Randy Jackson and with the exposure that Jackson gets on American Idol, he has people like Van and Nikka Costa on his roster and hasnt used the connection to expose them more, I never will understand that



Simple : Randy was too busy promoting RANDY
I didn't see VAN or Nikka in any commercials.

I refuse to make excuses for this kat or any of these dudes
sitting around re-hashing "Curtis" or whomever they were "channelling"
Hip-Hop made mf's shit or get off of the pot, musically
cause remember in the beginning the music backdrop was basically JAMES BROWN
And, Prince & ALL of the rest of them who faded out
after "Hip-Hop" couldn't fuck wit the TRUTH as a backdrop.
Ain't NONE of them gonna EVER fuck with JB in Loops or otherwise
Prince's hybrid style had to give way to JAMES BROWN underneath

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[Edited 12/28/06 15:31pm]
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