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Reply #30 posted 12/28/06 11:46pm

Janfriend

ABeautifulOne said:

ehuffnsd said:

real highlight of the show.


Tina Knowles was kept away from the costume department!!!



Dead wrong falloff


Are you serious? eek
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Reply #31 posted 12/29/06 7:50am

TommyRoss

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* the actors (with the exception of Jennifer Hudson) are not very good singers compared to the broadway production (listen to either the original cast album or the more recent concert peformance).

I don't agree, but fair enough. I always thought that Sheryl Lee Ralph's voice was good on the recording but not fantastic in performance. My understanding is that her vocals on the original album were supported. The recent concert performance - are you talking about the 2001 Nonesuch recording? I like that recording, but I'll take Hudson and Anika over Heather Hedley and Lillias White (as far as this material is concerned). Audra is an amazing vocalist, but her style of singing didn't work for me on that one. For the three main recordings of this material, my preference:

1 - Original 1981 show
2 - Dreamworks soundtrack
3 - 2001 benefit
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Reply #32 posted 12/29/06 8:20am

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ehuffnsd said:

ABeautifulOne said:




Dead wrong falloff



are you a fan of the ummm "designs" of Tina Knowles?




Some of them but not all of them such as the gowns she has B in for those premieres...Hideous
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Reply #33 posted 12/29/06 8:30am

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One observation of many:
Beyonce looks waaaaay better with the DARKER hair.
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Reply #34 posted 12/29/06 8:33am

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GaryMF said:


* they didn't stick to the "pop opera' format of the show, but sometimes they do sung dialog, sometimes not. It just doesn' work.


Spot-on! Biggest problem with the movie.
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Reply #35 posted 12/29/06 9:08am

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ABeautifulOne said:

ehuffnsd said:




are you a fan of the ummm "designs" of Tina Knowles?




Some of them but not all of them such as the gowns she has B in for those premieres...Hideous



as we've all learnt from project runway just because you can sew it doesn't make you a designer. Tina needs to let the people who know what they are doing do the designing if what's to be a stylist i'm fine with that but please save the world from "Another Tina Knowles creation"
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Reply #36 posted 12/29/06 9:23am

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ehuffnsd said:

ABeautifulOne said:





Some of them but not all of them such as the gowns she has B in for those premieres...Hideous



as we've all learnt from project runway just because you can sew it doesn't make you a designer. Tina needs to let the people who know what they are doing do the designing if what's to be a stylist i'm fine with that but please save the world from "Another Tina Knowles creation"




From her Tyra show interview it looks like she and B constantly argue over how things should be designed...
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Reply #37 posted 12/29/06 9:27am

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ehuffnsd said:




as we've all learnt from project runway just because you can sew it doesn't make you a designer. Tina needs to let the people who know what they are doing do the designing if what's to be a stylist i'm fine with that but please save the world from "Another Tina Knowles creation"




From her Tyra show interview it looks like she and B constantly argue over how things should be designed...



leave it to the professionals.
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Reply #38 posted 12/29/06 9:34am

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ehuffnsd said:

ABeautifulOne said:





From her Tyra show interview it looks like she and B constantly argue over how things should be designed...



leave it to the professionals.



Ain't that the truth lol
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Reply #39 posted 12/29/06 7:15pm

Janfriend

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Dreamgirls is my favorite Broadway show of all time.

Saw it 3 times in the 80s and once with miss Holliday in Atlanta a couple years ago.

I"m sorry to say that the movie is a dissappointment.

I really wanted to like it, but it just pales in comparison to the show:

* the actors (with the exception of Jennifer Hudson) are not very good singers compared to the broadway production (listen to either the original cast album or the more recent concert peformance).

* the music production doesn't sound very good

* they made weird changes from the original sgtory that didn't add anything and actually detract (James Early a drug addict who dies???)

* they didn't stick to the "pop opera' format of the show, but sometimes they do sung dialog, sometimes not. It just doesn' work.

Bottom line: They should've done it as a filmed version of the play.


I don't think it's fair to compare the movie to the nostalgic stage show. That's the same as comparing a movie to the original book it was based on. Try to look at them separately, maybe you won't be so disppointed. I didn't see the stage show, so I can't compare shrug There is a remastered version of the original broadway cast, so I might pick it up
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Reply #40 posted 12/29/06 7:17pm

VoicesCarry

gypsyfire said:

One observation of many:
Beyonce looks waaaaay better with the DARKER hair.


This is true for most women....but they don't seem to realize it. lol
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Reply #41 posted 12/29/06 7:23pm

Janfriend

VoicesCarry said:

gypsyfire said:

One observation of many:
Beyonce looks waaaaay better with the DARKER hair.


This is true for most women....but they don't seem to realize it. lol


nod I think Ciara realized it though. Mariah needs to follow. She looked way better ast the Bianca character than she ever looked
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Reply #42 posted 12/29/06 7:25pm

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Janfriend said:

VoicesCarry said:



This is true for most women....but they don't seem to realize it. lol


nod I think Ciara realized it though. Mariah needs to follow. She looked way better ast the Bianca character than she ever looked


Ciara is an absolutely gorgeous brunette. I could not stand the washed-out honey blonde she was sporting a few years ago, but thankfully she realized black is stunning on her. And I agree Mariah needs to drop the blonde, too, also I wish she would stop straightening her hair to within an inch of its life lol
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Reply #43 posted 12/29/06 7:27pm

Janfriend

VoicesCarry said:

Janfriend said:



nod I think Ciara realized it though. Mariah needs to follow. She looked way better ast the Bianca character than she ever looked


Ciara is an absolutely gorgeous brunette. I could not stand the washed-out honey blonde she was sporting a few years ago, but thankfully she realized black is stunning on her. And I agree Mariah needs to drop the blonde, too, also I wish she would stop straightening her hair to within an inch of its life lol


falloff

I miss the curly hair. Last time she was curly was what? 1993?
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Reply #44 posted 12/29/06 7:28pm

VoicesCarry

Janfriend said:

VoicesCarry said:



Ciara is an absolutely gorgeous brunette. I could not stand the washed-out honey blonde she was sporting a few years ago, but thankfully she realized black is stunning on her. And I agree Mariah needs to drop the blonde, too, also I wish she would stop straightening her hair to within an inch of its life lol


falloff

I miss the curly hair. Last time she was curly was what? 1993?


Yes, Music Box I think. nod
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Reply #45 posted 12/29/06 7:35pm

Janfriend

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Janfriend said:



falloff

I miss the curly hair. Last time she was curly was what? 1993?


Yes, Music Box I think. nod


Nah. Music Box was when it was straigten, but with body-wave curls. The last time it was curly-curly was Unplugged
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Reply #46 posted 12/29/06 7:37pm

VoicesCarry

Janfriend said:

VoicesCarry said:



Yes, Music Box I think. nod


Nah. Music Box was when it was straigten, but with body-wave curls. The last time it was curly-curly was Unplugged


Oooh, you're right. lol I just looked at some old photos and symptoms of The Straightening were already there. Damn, it didn't take her long.

I do not know what she is doing now, though, since her hair has no body. She does this center part thing and it hangs like limp noodles on either side her head. At least back in the day (1993-1997), she could work the straight hair.
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Reply #47 posted 12/29/06 7:42pm

Janfriend

VoicesCarry said:

Janfriend said:



Nah. Music Box was when it was straigten, but with body-wave curls. The last time it was curly-curly was Unplugged


Oooh, you're right. lol I just looked at some old photos and symptoms of The Straightening were already there. Damn, it didn't take her long.

I do not know what she is doing now, though, since her hair has no body. She does this center part thing and it hangs like limp noodles on either side her head. At least back in the day (1993-1997), she could work the straight hair.



Love it! lol
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Reply #48 posted 12/29/06 7:48pm

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I saw this movie yesterday and all I could say is WOW!!!!!

This movie had the whole audience applauding, crying, cheering, etc.

It's a very emotional story. Yes it's been told a million times, but the way it was written its something we can all relate to: family, friendship, loyalty, the ugly side of fame, hitting the bottom and starting over, forgiveness, closure, etc.

I don't want to pit Beyonce against Jennifer Hudson. In my opinion Jennifer and Jamie Fox were the two most crucial characters to the story, the others including Beyonce, played their parts quite well but only in a supporting manner.

If you have not seen this movie, go!! You're not going to be disspointed.

I was hesitating about seeing this movie because of the pre-hype.But I decided to take my mother and grandmother to see it for Christmas.I liked it better than Chicago.Everyone did a great job.Jennifer Hudson should forget about not being an American Idol because she's going to get an Oscar.
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Reply #49 posted 12/29/06 7:57pm

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larryluvlife said:

wonder505 said:

I saw this movie yesterday and all I could say is WOW!!!!!

This movie had the whole audience applauding, crying, cheering, etc.

It's a very emotional story. Yes it's been told a million times, but the way it was written its something we can all relate to: family, friendship, loyalty, the ugly side of fame, hitting the bottom and starting over, forgiveness, closure, etc.

I don't want to pit Beyonce against Jennifer Hudson. In my opinion Jennifer and Jamie Fox were the two most crucial characters to the story, the others including Beyonce, played their parts quite well but only in a supporting manner.

If you have not seen this movie, go!! You're not going to be disspointed.

I was hesitating about seeing this movie because of the pre-hype.But I decided to take my mother and grandmother to see it for Christmas.I liked it better than Chicago.Everyone did a great job.Jennifer Hudson should forget about not being an American Idol because she's going to get an Oscar.


Thats right! I was thoroughly impressed with the film. Im not a big musical fan but this was brilliantly done. Jennifer Hudson blew me away! The musical performances are instant classics. Anyone who has not seen this film yet, SHOULD asap!
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Reply #50 posted 12/29/06 8:23pm

TommyRoss

Janfriend said:

GaryMF said:

Dreamgirls is my favorite Broadway show of all time.

Saw it 3 times in the 80s and once with miss Holliday in Atlanta a couple years ago.

I"m sorry to say that the movie is a dissappointment.

I really wanted to like it, but it just pales in comparison to the show:

* the actors (with the exception of Jennifer Hudson) are not very good singers compared to the broadway production (listen to either the original cast album or the more recent concert peformance).

* the music production doesn't sound very good

* they made weird changes from the original sgtory that didn't add anything and actually detract (James Early a drug addict who dies???)

* they didn't stick to the "pop opera' format of the show, but sometimes they do sung dialog, sometimes not. It just doesn' work.

Bottom line: They should've done it as a filmed version of the play.


I don't think it's fair to compare the movie to the nostalgic stage show. That's the same as comparing a movie to the original book it was based on. Try to look at them separately, maybe you won't be so disppointed. I didn't see the stage show, so I can't compare shrug There is a remastered version of the original broadway cast, so I might pick it up

Do get it! There are several songs on it that were left off the original recording, including It's All Over.
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Reply #51 posted 12/30/06 4:17am

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Haven't seen the flick yet but Jennifer was recently on the cover of The Advocate.
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Reply #52 posted 12/30/06 1:32pm

Scorpion

ehuffnsd said:

real highlight of the show.


Tina Knowles was kept away from the costume department!!!



Tina made one of the dresses Beyoncé wears in that montage scene when Curtis sings "When I First Saw You".
tho' I battled blind
love is a fate resigned
memories mar my mind
love it is a fate resigned

Over futile odds
and laughed at by the Gods
and now the final frame
Love is a losing game
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Reply #53 posted 12/30/06 5:23pm

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I finally saw it and I'm totally speechless even though I thought Jamie would pull a Ike Turner move on Beyonce when she got him busted...
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Reply #54 posted 01/01/07 3:50pm

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Janfriend said:

GaryMF said:

Dreamgirls is my favorite Broadway show of all time.

Saw it 3 times in the 80s and once with miss Holliday in Atlanta a couple years ago.

I"m sorry to say that the movie is a dissappointment.

I really wanted to like it, but it just pales in comparison to the show:

* the actors (with the exception of Jennifer Hudson) are not very good singers compared to the broadway production (listen to either the original cast album or the more recent concert peformance).

* the music production doesn't sound very good

* they made weird changes from the original sgtory that didn't add anything and actually detract (James Early a drug addict who dies???)

* they didn't stick to the "pop opera' format of the show, but sometimes they do sung dialog, sometimes not. It just doesn' work.

Bottom line: They should've done it as a filmed version of the play.


I don't think it's fair to compare the movie to the nostalgic stage show. That's the same as comparing a movie to the original book it was based on. Try to look at them separately, maybe you won't be so disppointed. I didn't see the stage show, so I can't compare shrug There is a remastered version of the original broadway cast, so I might pick it up


I'll have to look for the new album, but the thing is it's not the full show.

anyway, you can't help but compare the movie to the show because they basically tried to stick to the show, but really didn't. it's not like they re-interpreted it.
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Reply #55 posted 01/01/07 4:40pm

Janfriend

GaryMF said:

Janfriend said:



I don't think it's fair to compare the movie to the nostalgic stage show. That's the same as comparing a movie to the original book it was based on. Try to look at them separately, maybe you won't be so disppointed. I didn't see the stage show, so I can't compare shrug There is a remastered version of the original broadway cast, so I might pick it up


I'll have to look for the new album, but the thing is it's not the full show.

anyway, you can't help but compare the movie to the show because they basically tried to stick to the show, but really didn't. it's not like they re-interpreted it.



The new one is the full show. It's two cds

I just saw "The Producers."
They should have filmed it like that, I think. It would have made more sense
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Reply #56 posted 01/01/07 4:56pm

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Janfriend said:

GaryMF said:



I'll have to look for the new album, but the thing is it's not the full show.

anyway, you can't help but compare the movie to the show because they basically tried to stick to the show, but really didn't. it's not like they re-interpreted it.



The new one is the full show. It's two cds

I just saw "The Producers."
They should have filmed it like that, I think. It would have made more sense

i just checked it out. it's 2 cds but not hte full show. a couple more songs (incluidng "it's all over" which leads into and i am telling you).

still looks worth it though.
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Reply #57 posted 01/01/07 4:57pm

Janfriend

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Janfriend said:




The new one is the full show. It's two cds

I just saw "The Producers."
They should have filmed it like that, I think. It would have made more sense

i just checked it out. it's 2 cds but not hte full show. a couple more songs (incluidng "it's all over" which leads into and i am telling you).

still looks worth it though.


What songs are missing?
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Reply #58 posted 01/01/07 6:52pm

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Janfriend said:

GaryMF said:


i just checked it out. it's 2 cds but not hte full show. a couple more songs (incluidng "it's all over" which leads into and i am telling you).

still looks worth it though.


What songs are missing?

well, almost the entire show is sung, though not every single thing is a "song". other songs like before the Dreamettees come on.... "I'm Looking for Something", "going downtown" etc. "Heavy"

The concert CD with Lilias white is the Entire show.
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Reply #59 posted 01/01/07 7:26pm

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I've got a couple of Holliday's albums. Little more then 2nd rate whitney, but they have their moments.


Her best song is a cut she did called "peace in our time". Wonderful song, helped by her strong vocals.
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