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Thread started 12/17/06 10:48pm

beautifullandb

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Leona Lewis....AMAZING!

Not sure if you guys have discussed her here yet...
she is the winner of X factor in the UK, she has the most amazing voice I have ever heard!
If you get a chance check out her singing 'Summertime' on youtube.
I got goosebumps all over my body thoughout the entire performance she is SENSATIONAL!!
She is gonne be HUGE!
All of me I give 2 thee down at your feet
The reassurance in your rhythm speaks 2 me
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Reply #1 posted 12/17/06 10:53pm

VoicesCarry

Leona is alright, I guess. The problem is that her upper range is strong, but her lower range is unimpressive. So that really restricts her. This is has been consistent in all her live performances.

Here she is performing Without You: http://www.youtube.com/wa...oMkC3MVF6g

Also, she has the same singing mannerisms as every other reality contestant out there.
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Reply #2 posted 12/17/06 11:01pm

TommyRoss

Her voice is nice but I wonder how it would translate to music I haven't heard before.
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Reply #3 posted 12/17/06 11:03pm

VoicesCarry

TommyRoss said:

Her voice is nice but I wonder how it would translate to music I haven't heard before.


Well to her credit she did a version of Donna's Could It Be Magic on whatever show she was on (I have no idea about British TV). She seems to be in the Mariah/Whitney vein vocally. You know none of these winners ever take big musical risks, at least not with the debut. Simon will give her some Will Young schmaltz.
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Reply #4 posted 12/17/06 11:06pm

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VoicesCarry said:

Leona is alright, I guess. The problem is that her upper range is strong, but her lower range is unimpressive. So that really restricts her. This is has been consistent in all her live performances.

Here she is performing Without You: http://www.youtube.com/wa...oMkC3MVF6g

Also, she has the same singing mannerisms as every other reality contestant out there.


WOW I totally disagree.....I saw her perform her new single live yesterday evening and towards the end of the song she hits the lower range and I tell you she held her own. The girl is phenominal imo
Also, what mannerims do you refer to?
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Reply #5 posted 12/17/06 11:10pm

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VoicesCarry said:

TommyRoss said:

Her voice is nice but I wonder how it would translate to music I haven't heard before.


Well to her credit she did a version of Donna's Could It Be Magic on whatever show she was on (I have no idea about British TV). She seems to be in the Mariah/Whitney vein vocally. You know none of these winners ever take big musical risks, at least not with the debut. Simon will give her some Will Young schmaltz.

I hadn't heard that one until you mentioned it. Good stuff. I think I'm always going to prefer Barry's original, but Donna's remake is very, very good. She made it her own. That Leona one is a good knock off. She does have that Mariah dolphin thing. lol Never heard it before.

http://www.youtube.com/wa...laqEDHASzQ
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Reply #6 posted 12/17/06 11:12pm

VoicesCarry

beautifullandb said:

WOW I totally disagree.....I saw her perform her new single live yesterday evening and towards the end of the song she hits the lower range and I tell you she held her own.


If she hits your spot, that's good. I've just followed her performances and haven't been really that impressed one way or another. Part of the reason why Mariah is so good at these types of tracks is she can go REALLY low, which Without You needs in the intro. Then you go up like three octaves or so when you break out into the big emotional part. That's the way the song needs to be done, and Mariah understood that but had the vocals to back it up. You either do the song in a super-dramatic fashion or you do it in soft, acoustic singer-songwriter way. There's no in-between.

what mannerims do you refer to?


I call it the Mariah/Whitney stylie. lol Except they are never as good as Mariah or Whitney. So it winds up looking like self-conscious karaoke night. Made even worse by the fact they choose to sing Mariah & Whitney tracks, often in the exact same way as Mariah or Whitney did it.
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Reply #7 posted 12/17/06 11:16pm

VoicesCarry

TommyRoss said:

VoicesCarry said:



Well to her credit she did a version of Donna's Could It Be Magic on whatever show she was on (I have no idea about British TV). She seems to be in the Mariah/Whitney vein vocally. You know none of these winners ever take big musical risks, at least not with the debut. Simon will give her some Will Young schmaltz.

I hadn't heard that one until you mentioned it. Good stuff. I think I'm always going to prefer Barry's original, but Donna's remake is very, very good. She made it her own. That Leona one is a good knock off. She does have that Mariah dolphin thing. lol Never heard it before.

http://www.youtube.com/wa...laqEDHASzQ


Yeah, I was impressed by that choice. Maybe girlfriend has more taste than the average reality show contestant. Myself I prefer Donna's because I prefer female vocalists on the whole lol She has Mariah's upper range but definitely not her strength in the lower range, which is regrettable.
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Reply #8 posted 12/17/06 11:23pm

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VoicesCarry said:

beautifullandb said:

WOW I totally disagree.....I saw her perform her new single live yesterday evening and towards the end of the song she hits the lower range and I tell you she held her own.


If she hits your spot, that's good. I've just followed her performances and haven't been really that impressed one way or another. Part of the reason why Mariah is so good at these types of tracks is she can go REALLY low, which Without You needs in the intro. Then you go up like three octaves or so when you break out into the big emotional part. That's the way the song needs to be done, and Mariah understood that but had the vocals to back it up. You either do the song in a super-dramatic fashion or you do it in soft, acoustic singer-songwriter way. There's no in-between.

what mannerims do you refer to?


I call it the Mariah/Whitney stylie. lol Except they are never as good as Mariah or Whitney. So it winds up looking like self-conscious karaoke night. Made even worse by the fact they choose to sing Mariah & Whitney tracks, often in the exact same way as Mariah or Whitney did it.
[Edited 12/17/06 15:14pm]


Different strokes I guess.
I knew everyone would jump on the whole Mariah/Whitney bandwagon though.rolleyes I know Mariah has an amazing voice, I just think Leona has a softer understated voice in comparison, I actually prefared her version of 'without you' it evoked more emotion imo.
I'm just looking forward to her own material to come out, hopefully the label will do right by her and won't have her doing covers.
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Reply #9 posted 12/17/06 11:26pm

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beautifullandb said:

I'm just looking forward to her own material to come out, hopefully the label will do right by her and won't have her doing covers.


Unfortunately you will have to wait until her second album to get anything remotely interesting. Simon will be in control, I'm guessing? It will be complete schmaltz with a few covers. First albums of these winners ALWAYS suck.
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Reply #10 posted 12/17/06 11:32pm

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VoicesCarry said:

beautifullandb said:

I'm just looking forward to her own material to come out, hopefully the label will do right by her and won't have her doing covers.


Unfortunately you will have to wait until her second album to get anything remotely interesting. Simon will be in control, I'm guessing? It will be complete schmaltz with a few covers. First albums of these winners ALWAYS suck.


Sadly you are probably right rolleyes
Yea Simon's in control, she will be signed to his label. She seems very impressionable so she will probably have no say whatsoever.
He has a huge responsibility hope he doesn't f*&k it up!
All of me I give 2 thee down at your feet
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Reply #11 posted 12/18/06 10:03am

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Did anyone hear Gary Barlows comments after the show?

He admitted he was not a fan of the show, and was pleading with Simon to take his time on her first record, and not do a typical X Factor/Pop Idol thing by rushing out a quick CD full of cover versions.

Not sure if Simon took it in or not.
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Reply #12 posted 12/18/06 10:09am

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not very good at the low notes
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Reply #13 posted 12/18/06 10:29am

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I loved her performances. I agree that she is the best thing that UK X
Factor has produced. I think time will tell, but Simon did respond to Gary's comments and said that he was speaking to people in America about her (writing/producing I presume). I think that he is probably aware that it really is in his hands now as she has all the talent but needs to be handled correctly to prevent it being wasted.
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sj1600 said:

I loved her performances. I agree that she is the best thing that UK X
Factor has produced. I think time will tell, but Simon did respond to Gary's comments and said that he was speaking to people in America about her (writing/producing I presume). I think that he is probably aware that it really is in his hands now as she has all the talent but needs to be handled correctly to prevent it being wasted.


The worry about using some US producers is that they will simply churn out the current chart bland Rnb flavour.
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beautifullandb said:

Not sure if you guys have discussed her here yet...
she is the winner of X factor in the UK, she has the most amazing voice I have ever heard!
If you get a chance check out her singing 'Summertime' on youtube.
I got goosebumps all over my body thoughout the entire performance she is SENSATIONAL!!
She is gonne be HUGE!



Coming to UK tv screens soon: Whatever Happened to Gareth Gates?
There are three sides to every story. My side, your side, and the truth. And no one is lying. Memories shared serve each one differently
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Reply #16 posted 12/18/06 10:27pm

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Shapeshifter said:

beautifullandb said:

Not sure if you guys have discussed her here yet...
she is the winner of X factor in the UK, she has the most amazing voice I have ever heard!
If you get a chance check out her singing 'Summertime' on youtube.
I got goosebumps all over my body thoughout the entire performance she is SENSATIONAL!!
She is gonne be HUGE!



Coming to UK tv screens soon: Whatever Happened to Gareth Gates?



Come on! lol Gareth Gates...V....Leona? there's no comparison!
All of me I give 2 thee down at your feet
The reassurance in your rhythm speaks 2 me
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Reply #17 posted 12/19/06 9:35am

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SquirrelMeat said:

sj1600 said:

I loved her performances. I agree that she is the best thing that UK X
Factor has produced. I think time will tell, but Simon did respond to Gary's comments and said that he was speaking to people in America about her (writing/producing I presume). I think that he is probably aware that it really is in his hands now as she has all the talent but needs to be handled correctly to prevent it being wasted.


The worry about using some US producers is that they will simply churn out the current chart bland Rnb flavour.



Very true.

To add to the debate: Whatever happened to Michelle McManus?. That was an awful final, I can't even remember the name of the guy who she was up against
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Reply #18 posted 12/20/06 10:18am

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beautifullandb said:

Shapeshifter said:




Coming to UK tv screens soon: Whatever Happened to Gareth Gates?



Come on! lol Gareth Gates...V....Leona? there's no comparison!



You're right. No comparison. Leona's infinitely more talented. BUT the shelf-life of those reality tv show winners is about six to nine months. Exceptions: Will Young and Lemar.
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Reply #19 posted 12/21/06 11:26pm

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Shapeshifter said:

beautifullandb said:




Come on! lol Gareth Gates...V....Leona? there's no comparison!



You're right. No comparison. Leona's infinitely more talented. BUT the shelf-life of those reality tv show winners is about six to nine months. Exceptions: Will Young and Lemar.



I know what you mean. But it would be such a pity to let such a talent slip through the net. She has an amazing voice, she is a beautiful girl and has the abiity to crack the US market which is always so hard for European artists to do sucessfully.
It will be a big black mark against Simon Cowell if he doesn't market and produce this artist to her full ability.
I know some people have compared Leona to Mariah/Whitney, which is a pity because she has a unique beautiful, natural talent in her own right and should be given the tools and creativity musically to experiment and put something out there to the world which is uniquely HER for the world to embrace.

But unfortunelty winning a TV show like that, she will be bound and restricted to sell, sell, sell whatever the cost (covers, I'm guessing!) Like a puppet on a string i guess.
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