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Printablecinnamongirl24 said: vainandy said: I guess you would call it jazz. I can sit and listen to it though but it sure as hell ain't something I would want from someone like Prince. I don't consider "NEWS" as Prince's most boring album though. I just threw that one out because so many people hate it. My choice for most boring Prince album would be "The Truth".  Why does anyone give a damn about this loser-attention-whore's opinion?  Andy is a four letter word. | |
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vainandy said: VoicesCarry said:
No, hip-hop changed. Yes it did. And for the worst. Actually, when folks like The Egyptian Lover sampled, I thought it was kind of clever. On his song, "Baddest Beat Around", he takes just a razor-fine snip of the synthesizer after the word "work" on Prince's "Let's Work". However, it's over some original music that he created and it was just enough to have people thinking...."that sounds familiar". You had to be really into Prince to recognize it. Then he would mix just small snips of the guitar on "Let's Work" over his music. The difference is, he could make music of his own and just use the razor-fine snips to give it a little kick every now and then. Lots of folks in the late 1980s were using small snips. When it started becoming fucked up is when the snips got longer and longer and soon became the entire groove for the song with no groove for the artist to come up with. If they weren't fucking things up that way, then they were just stripping everything completely off and just rapping over a beat. Then they started using different drum machines that weren't near as strong as the earlier ones. There is no worth in sampling. One of the reasons sampling sucks the big one is because it allows lazy morons with no musical talent to become record producers (not talking about De La or whatever here). You used to have to know what you were doing to produce a record. And that is why music has suffered this decline - the "anyone can do it" mentality that sampling implies. Sampling is laziness. You can be lazy in creative ways....but you're still lazy.
I don't even know if I would call them lazy these days. I don't think most of these artists these days are capable of coming up with something original. . . [Edited 12/20/06 19:00pm] These 2 orgers are full of it! phew! | |
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vainandy said: Yep. As dull as "NEWS" is, at least it's not shit hop or anything resembling it. Shithop? Dude, U R a regular riot, but at least U R consistent. So U never liked hip-hop in the early to mid-80's? Kurtis Blow, Whodini, Doug E.Fresh?...I mean,yes, it's shithop nowadays, but the early stages of rap were some of the best times in my life...maybe U R just older than me or something? | |
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goat2004 said: vainandy said: Yep. As dull as "NEWS" is, at least it's not shit hop or anything resembling it. Shithop? Dude, U R a regular riot, but at least U R consistent. So U never liked hip-hop in the early to mid-80's? Kurtis Blow, Whodini, Doug E.Fresh?...I mean,yes, it's shithop nowadays, but the early stages of rap were some of the best times in my life...maybe U R just older than me or something? Yeah...'80s hip-hop was the shit and for the most part so was the '90s....The problem with hip-hop nowadays is the lack of diversity...But to say there were no brilliant moments in hip hop past the '80s is just severely misinformed...(or just pure hate...lol)...I'll take the latter... | |
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goat2004 said: vainandy said: Yep. As dull as "NEWS" is, at least it's not shit hop or anything resembling it. Shithop? Dude, U R a regular riot, but at least U R consistent. So U never liked hip-hop in the early to mid-80's? Kurtis Blow, Whodini, Doug E.Fresh?...I mean,yes, it's shithop nowadays, but the early stages of rap were some of the best times in my life...maybe U R just older than me or something? Yeah, I'm very consistent. Apparently you haven't read all my posts though because I love all the acts that you mentioned, as well as folks like Soul Sonic Force, Divine Sounds, Twilight 22, Run DMC, Egyptian Lover, LA Dream Team, Pretty Tony, Freestyle, etc. Yeah, rap was great back then. A lot of it was original music made from scratch also with fresh new ideas. Those days haven't existed for 15 years now. What started out as hip hop, turned into shit hop once the 1990s hit. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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murph said: goat2004 said: Shithop? Dude, U R a regular riot, but at least U R consistent. So U never liked hip-hop in the early to mid-80's? Kurtis Blow, Whodini, Doug E.Fresh?...I mean,yes, it's shithop nowadays, but the early stages of rap were some of the best times in my life...maybe U R just older than me or something? Yeah...'80s hip-hop was the shit and for the most part so was the '90s....The problem with hip-hop nowadays is the lack of diversity...But to say there were no brilliant moments in hip hop past the '80s is just severely misinformed...(or just pure hate...lol)...I'll take the latter... Very true. Everyone has the same old cheap sounding drum machines, everyone has most of the instruments stripped off the songs, and everyone never gets faster than midtempo. And that's just the musical side of it. Imagewise, most everyone has the same old unimaginative style of dress and the same old ignorant disrespectful low class behavior. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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