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Thread started 12/19/06 2:51am

PurpleJam

Hendrix and Clapton On Stage

Does anyone know about the time when Hendrix asked if he could jam with Cream on stage and he was said to have totally blown Clapton away with his playing ability to the point where Clapton had to walk off the stage. I have heard about this incident enough times to assume that it is indeed an actual fact in that it took place, but does anyone have anymore info or specifics that they know about, such as what songs they were jamming on or if Clapton was really pissed off with Hendrix about it or was he respectable and totally alright with it all and how did Jimi feel about the whole situation with Clapton walking off.

I have also heard that, although this rumor I am not as sure if it actually did happen or not, that Clapton had to walk off the stage AGAIN when he was first playing alongside SRV some years later. Anyone know if this was a fact or not?

Finally, when you hear about situations such as these with guitar players performing together on stage, what do you think are the actual intentions of the players who happen to be jamming together really are? Are they purposely trying to out perform one another or are they just simply playing their instruments as usual and that there are just certain players who seem to out shine the rest with their guitar playing ablity.
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Reply #1 posted 12/19/06 4:14am

FunkJam

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Yeah it did happen, ive read about it on quite a few Cream sites which are all relaible sources. Apparently Clapton was shocked by Hendrix and couldnt handle the fact he was playing so good. He soon got over it tho and he was great friends with Jimi; who was a really big Clapton fan.
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Reply #2 posted 12/19/06 5:59am

nikkhendrix

Happened at the Regent Street Polytechnic,1966. It was 'killing floor' by Howling Wolf they did. Clapton was stunned by Hendrix's virtuosity. Baker and Bruce initially were not keen on doing it. Hendrix did the whole rountine in one song! Behind the back, playing with teeth, on his back, everything. Dunno how cool it was for Jimi to show up Clapton,after Eric was cool enough to give him a chance to play infront a big audince.
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Thats how it happened though ! cool
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Reply #3 posted 12/19/06 12:09pm

dirtyman2005

damn right too

clapton probably cummed himself that night, being in the presance of the greatest guitarist ever, that ever was and that ever will be,

and damn right clapton walked off, he wasnt fit to eat jimi's excretion.

anyhow, good ol jimi sure could give a show

he could play the guitar with his dick, thats how good he was,

jimi, the greatest ever

fucking the whole world while he was at it

aah, the good years of music

i bet BB king cummed when he first saw jimi as well,

come to think of it, i think most guitar players would cum on the spot if they saw jimi play.

i bet even jimi but crack could play guitar better than clapton

clapton these days is a young girl fucker,
he was busy having a few kids with that girl who was more than half his age, busy banging away i guess! the harder he bangs, the more kids he gets to father! smile smile
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Reply #4 posted 12/19/06 12:25pm

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Reply #5 posted 12/19/06 12:39pm

FunkJam

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dirtyman2005 said:

damn right too

clapton probably cummed himself that night, being in the presance of the greatest guitarist ever, that ever was and that ever will be,

and damn right clapton walked off, he wasnt fit to eat jimi's excretion.

anyhow, good ol jimi sure could give a show

he could play the guitar with his dick, thats how good he was,

jimi, the greatest ever

fucking the whole world while he was at it

aah, the good years of music

i bet BB king cummed when he first saw jimi as well,

come to think of it, i think most guitar players would cum on the spot if they saw jimi play.

i bet even jimi but crack could play guitar better than clapton

clapton these days is a young girl fucker,
he was busy having a few kids with that girl who was more than half his age, busy banging away i guess! the harder he bangs, the more kids he gets to father! smile smile


Blaa ive heard enough of this Hendrx is the best ever crap! Now I'm not a fan of Jimi but I wouldn't say Clapton was better than him. There's a point that musicians reach where it's not a case of anyone being better, it's just about what you play. That's the level both Jimi and Eric were at.
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Reply #6 posted 12/19/06 1:17pm

JesseDezz

dirtyman2005 said:

damn right too

clapton probably cummed himself that night, being in the presance of the greatest guitarist ever, that ever was and that ever will be,

and damn right clapton walked off, he wasnt fit to eat jimi's excretion.

anyhow, good ol jimi sure could give a show

he could play the guitar with his dick, thats how good he was,

jimi, the greatest ever

fucking the whole world while he was at it

aah, the good years of music

i bet BB king cummed when he first saw jimi as well,

come to think of it, i think most guitar players would cum on the spot if they saw jimi play.

i bet even jimi but crack could play guitar better than clapton

clapton these days is a young girl fucker,
he was busy having a few kids with that girl who was more than half his age, busy banging away i guess! the harder he bangs, the more kids he gets to father! smile smile


Instead of sharing this ignorant chatter, couldn't you just keep it in your head...Some intelligent posting, please.
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Reply #7 posted 12/19/06 1:51pm

woogiebear

Jimi scared the "bloody hell" out of ALL OF THEM!!!!!

Clapton

Townshend

Beck

and Page

lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol
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Reply #8 posted 12/19/06 2:19pm

Slave2daGroove

Well I think Hendrix said it best when he said

Hendrix: "I've played with him and he's good. It's difficult to compare us, because our styles are so different."
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Reply #9 posted 12/19/06 2:45pm

FunkJam

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Slave2daGroove said:

Well I think Hendrix said it best when he said

Hendrix: "I've played with him and he's good. It's difficult to compare us, because our styles are so different."


Yeah, exactly right. People could argue who is technically better as much as they want, but thats just fruitless when dealing with virtuoso musicians. It's really about what style or technique you prefer and whos playing makes you feel something.
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Reply #10 posted 12/19/06 3:03pm

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dirtyman2005 said:

damn right too

clapton probably cummed himself that night, being in the presance of the greatest guitarist ever, that ever was and that ever will be,

and damn right clapton walked off, he wasnt fit to eat jimi's excretion.

anyhow, good ol jimi sure could give a show

he could play the guitar with his dick, thats how good he was,

jimi, the greatest ever

fucking the whole world while he was at it

aah, the good years of music

i bet BB king cummed when he first saw jimi as well,

come to think of it, i think most guitar players would cum on the spot if they saw jimi play.

i bet even jimi but crack could play guitar better than clapton

clapton these days is a young girl fucker,
he was busy having a few kids with that girl who was more than half his age, busy banging away i guess! the harder he bangs, the more kids he gets to father! smile smile

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Reply #11 posted 12/19/06 3:17pm

VoicesCarry

minneapolisgenius said:

dirtyman2005 said:

damn right too

clapton probably cummed himself that night, being in the presance of the greatest guitarist ever, that ever was and that ever will be,

and damn right clapton walked off, he wasnt fit to eat jimi's excretion.

anyhow, good ol jimi sure could give a show

he could play the guitar with his dick, thats how good he was,

jimi, the greatest ever

fucking the whole world while he was at it

aah, the good years of music

i bet BB king cummed when he first saw jimi as well,

come to think of it, i think most guitar players would cum on the spot if they saw jimi play.

i bet even jimi but crack could play guitar better than clapton

clapton these days is a young girl fucker,
he was busy having a few kids with that girl who was more than half his age, busy banging away i guess! the harder he bangs, the more kids he gets to father! smile smile

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Reply #12 posted 12/20/06 4:43am

PurpleJam

dirtyman2005 said:

damn right too

clapton probably cummed himself that night, being in the presance of the greatest guitarist ever, that ever was and that ever will be,

and damn right clapton walked off, he wasnt fit to eat jimi's excretion.

anyhow, good ol jimi sure could give a show

he could play the guitar with his dick, thats how good he was,

jimi, the greatest ever

fucking the whole world while he was at it

aah, the good years of music

i bet BB king cummed when he first saw jimi as well,

come to think of it, i think most guitar players would cum on the spot if they saw jimi play.

i bet even jimi but crack could play guitar better than clapton

clapton these days is a young girl fucker,
he was busy having a few kids with that girl who was more than half his age, busy banging away i guess! the harder he bangs, the more kids he gets to father! smile smile



Wow! Some very strong comments indeed. Hendrix is considerd by probably 99% of the guitar playing world as well as guitar fans as the greatest ever.

This one guy who has his own site of Classic Rock Reviews however, stated that in his opinion, that the live album by Derek And The Dominos solely featuring only Clapton on guitar, easily beats out anything done by Allman, Hendrix or any other guitar player that he has ever heard, saying that he feels that it is the greatest display of electric guitar work ever done and commited to tape by anyone in rock music. Does anyone agree with that?
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Reply #13 posted 12/20/06 5:51am

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Wow! Some very strong comments indeed. Hendrix is considerd by probably 99% of the guitar playing world as well as guitar fans as the greatest ever.

This one guy who has his own site of Classic Rock Reviews however, stated that in his opinion, that the live album by Derek And The Dominos solely featuring only Clapton on guitar, easily beats out anything done by Allman, Hendrix or any other guitar player that he has ever heard, saying that he feels that it is the greatest display of electric guitar work ever done and commited to tape by anyone in rock music. Does anyone agree with that?


That 'Derek And The Dominos: live at the fillmore' is Clapton in his absolute prime. I think that album and the 'Beano' album with John Mayall are the Clapton's best works for pure guitar playing. 'Derek And The Dominos: live at the fillmore' does have some 'dud' moments. Claptons version of 'Little Wing' sucks bigtime,'bottle of red wine' and 'no one knows you when you are done and out' are pure filler. Clapton really opens up on the solos and I have to say that some of them are too long and tend to meander a bit. But if you have to get ANYTHING from EC, this and the first bluesbreakers album are it. I give the album 4 stars outta five.
I also highly recommend: Buddy Guy: Stone Crazy and Jimi Hendrix:Baggy Rehearsal sessions,
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Reply #14 posted 12/20/06 8:44am

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Speaking of...



...Buddy Guy & Eric Clapton.

I'd throw most of the Cream material (along with The Bluesbreakers) as some of Clapton's best playing.
For example the solo from I Feel Free uses a minimum number of notes but they're the right notes.
Also, he had a great guitar sound during that period.

This is still my favorite Buddy Guy album...



...This Is BUDDY GUY!

The title says it all.


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Reply #15 posted 12/20/06 9:10am

RodeoSchro

IMHO, it's impossible to say who is the BEST guitarist ever. The real question that each person needs to answer is, Who do I like listening to the most?

To me, whoever you answer is who's the best guitarist ever, at least for you.

And IMO, Prince is the best for me. Others I like include Jimi, the late Toy Caldwell of the Marshall Tucker Band, Peter Frampton, Angus Young and Neil Schon.
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Reply #16 posted 12/20/06 9:29am

PurpleJam

RodeoSchro said:

IMHO, it's impossible to say who is the BEST guitarist ever. The real question that each person needs to answer is, Who do I like listening to the most?

To me, whoever you answer is who's the best guitarist ever, at least for you.

And IMO, Prince is the best for me. Others I like include Jimi, the late Toy Caldwell of the Marshall Tucker Band, Peter Frampton, Angus Young and Neil Schon.



Yes you are completely correct in what you said. It is really not very useful to use the word 'best' in these discussions because after all of the disagreements people get into about who is the 'best', what it all comes down to in the end is who YOU personally love and the player that hits you most directly with his playing and your own personal tastes and emotions the most.

I always try to maintain when I get on or start on these subjects that its my own opinion or the opinions of others whom I have heard talk about certain guitar players and about their playing ability compared to the other specific guitar player that they are talking about within their discussions.

However when it comes to Hendrix, the vast majority of people seem to state as fact that he is the best guitar player ever. Personally, I do not agree with that. I don't believe that Hendrix, as magnificent a player as he was, was or is the be all end all of guitar players. My OPINION of course.
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Reply #17 posted 12/20/06 1:21pm

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Must have been tough for Clapton to essentially be dethroned like that. I think he handled it well, even finding enjoyment and appreciation in the fact that Jimi's music should be loved & respected.

The best story I heard was that he & Pete Townshend went to see Jimi, and at one point while watching, Clapton grabbed Pete's hand, either for strength, or just to share the moment. Either way, he was obviously very excited by Jimi's playing.
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Reply #18 posted 12/20/06 4:19pm

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I think that this "event" and Jimi's supposed showboating gets inflated with time.

Another perspective...

Just a week after Jimi landed in England, Cream were playing a show at the Polytechnic in central London. Chandler bumped into Clapton a few days before and told him he'd like to introduce Jimi sometime. Meeting Clapton, of course, was the one promise Chandler had made to Jimi before they left New York. Clapton mentioned the Polytechnic gig and suggested Chandler bring his protege. In all likelihood, Clapton meant he would be glad simply to meet Jimi, but Jimi nonetheless arrived with his guitar. Chandler, Jimi and their girlfriends stood in the audience during the first half of the show, and Chandler called up to the stage and summoned Clapton over to ask if Jimi might jam. The request was so preposterous that no one in Cream -- Clapton, Jack Bruce or Ginger Baker -- knew quite what to say: No one had ever asked to jam with them before; most would have been too intimidated by their reputation as the best band in Britain. Bruce finally said, "Sure, he can plug into my bass amp."

Jimi plugged his guitar into a spare channel and immediately began Howlin' Wolf's "Killing Floor." "I'd grown up around Eric, and I knew what a fan he was of Albert King, who had a slow version of that song," recalled press agent Tony Garland, who was at the show. "When Jimi started his take, though, it was about three times as fast as Albert King's version, and you could see Eric's jaw drop -- he didn't know what was going to come next." Remembering the show later, Clapton said, "I thought, 'My God, this is like Buddy Guy on acid.' "

When Bruce told his version of the fabled event, he focused on Clapton's reaction and alluded to graffiti in London that proclaimed, "Clapton is God." "It must have been difficult for Eric to handle," Bruce said, "because [Eric] was 'God,' and this unknown person comes along and burns." Jeff Beck was in the audience that night, and he, too, took warning from Jimi's performance. "Even if it was crap -- and it wasn't -- it got to the press," Beck later said. Jimi had been in London for eight days and he had already met God, and burned him.


~ Author Charles R. Cross

http://www.geocities.com/...endrix.htm
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The bottom line is that Jimi Hendrix became good friends with Eric Clapton and Jeff Beck.
After he showed them who was boss of course. wink

Popularity that eclipsed the Yardbirds years awaited Beck as head of the Jeff Beck Group. A nascent supergroup with future Face and Rolling Stone Ron Wood on bass, and future Face and international pop star Rod Stewart on vocals, the Jeff Beck Group were at the vanguard of rock's new heavy aesthetic, sharing front-runner position with Cream and the Jimi Hendrix

Experience. Beck was a year ahead of his old friend Page, who didn't form his own heavy guitar group, Led Zeppelin, until 1969. The Jeff Beck Group’s 1968 debut album, Truth, has become a classic rock milestone, spearheaded by Beck’s remake of the Yardbirds’ “Shapes of Things.”

“That became the precursor to a lot of power rock and roll,” the generally self-effacing Beck acknowledges. “That plodding sort of rhythm that we nailed. I suppose whenever I get named as a heavy metal innovator that’s probably one of the best examples of heavy metal in embryo.”

Beck received a hero’s welcome when the Jeff Beck group played New York’s Fillmore East in 1968. It was his first American gig since leaving the Yardbirds. Needless to say, the whole band was nervous. "Rod wouldn't even come and sing to the audience direct. He was hiding behind some curtains. I actually had to say, halfway through the set, ‘There is a human being actually making those noises in the building.’”

Jimi Hendrix became a friend and confidant of Beck's during this period. The Jeff Beck Group played a residency at Steve Paul's Scene in Manhattan, and Hendrix would often join the group onstage for encores.

"He'd come onstage and completely undermine and overshadow what we'd done," Beck recalls. "But nobody cared. It was just great. And to have Rod singing was, well, two guitars blazing away-forget it. The club was crammed to capacity every night."


http://www.fenderplayersc...s/beck.pdf

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Guitar: Fender Jeff Beck Stratocaster with Little Richard's autograph on it. Started out in the '60s with a Strat®, switched to Telecasters® during the Yardbirds, and then back to Strats because of his friend Jimi Hendrix's influence. Has largely played Strats and Teles ever since; played a Gibson Les Paul during the Blow By Blow and Wired era.

Amps: A wide variety over the years. Yardbirds: Two Vox AC30 combos linked together. "Fire and Fury" tour with Stevie Ray Vaughan in the '80s: two Fender Twin Reverbs.

Strings: Early days: extra light gauge (.008s). Hendrix converted him to heavier gauge, which he uses now: .011, .013, .017, .028, .038, .049.

Picks: Picks with his bare fingers.

http://www.fenderplayersc...s/beck.htm
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