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Reply #30 posted 12/15/06 2:49pm

MikeMatronik

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pout You're going to diss Desire in it's own thread? hmph! !

No. I didn't mean it that way.

But I don't know if it's the best way to get into her. It's by FAR her most challenging listen. Maybe her most rewarding too.

As awesome as "Angels with Dirty Faces" is, it would never be the first thing I'd recommend to somebody wanting to get into Tricky.

I'd probably say the same thing with Tori about "Choirgirl". The reason I thought it'd be a good place for you to start is because of your other musical faves. I knew how much you loved those difficult, freaky '98 albums and it fits right in. Plus, you always seem to be up to a good challenge.

But for some people, I wouldn't want to scare them away before they've started. lol





Great album! cool
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Reply #31 posted 12/15/06 2:50pm

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eek I thought she might be off your pop radar and I guess I was right lol She is absolutely one of my all time favorite artists EVER. She ranks as huge as Prince to me nod


Nope, she's not off my radar. I know who she is but never bothered to listen. Meanwhile, I have a lot of Beth Orton.


She's definitely no Beth Orton lol Speaking of 2 Bring You My Love, I am so haunted by Teclo. That song seriously throws me into a different place sigh
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Reply #32 posted 12/15/06 2:50pm

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No. I didn't mean it that way.

But I don't know if it's the best way to get into her. It's by FAR her most challenging listen. Maybe her most rewarding too.

As awesome as "Angels with Dirty Faces" is, it would never be the first thing I'd recommend to somebody wanting to get into Tricky.

I'd probably say the same thing with Tori about "Choirgirl". The reason I thought it'd be a good place for you to start is because of your other musical faves. I knew how much you loved those difficult, freaky '98 albums and it fits right in. Plus, you always seem to be up to a good challenge.

But for some people, I wouldn't want to scare them away before they've started. lol





Great album! cool



OMG! falloff Not quite the same angels lol
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Reply #33 posted 12/15/06 2:51pm

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VoicesCarry said:



Nope, she's not off my radar. I know who she is but never bothered to listen. Meanwhile, I have a lot of Beth Orton.


She's definitely no Beth Orton lol


How so? smile
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Reply #34 posted 12/15/06 2:52pm

MikeMatronik

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

MikeMatronik said:






Great album! cool



OMG! falloff Not quite the same angels lol


batting eyes Best pop group the uk produced! batting eyes

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Reply #35 posted 12/15/06 2:53pm

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But I still rank this album low on my list of PJ favorites. I just don't think electronica suits her.

My first introduction to her was 2 Bring U My Love nod A co-worker of mine asked me if I knew who she was and when I said no she handed me that disc and told me she thought I'd like it

Well I was so astounded by it I went out an bought Rid of Me and Dry and I was simply hooked. But I was really really ready for this album when it dropped. Dancehall is between 2 Bring U My Love and Desire but I didn't get that album until after I had listened to Desire so Desire was an even larger departure for me. I classify Dance Hall as the bridge between her old work and her new work.

You can clearly hear the evolution happening there and I think Desire just took it to the next natural and logical level. Having been into Tricky and Bjork, it wasn't really hard for me to accept the electronic nature of this album. I thought it to be a breath of fresh air. She could have put out yet another rock album but she didn't and I loved that she was comfortable enough to do something that surely she knew many fans wouldn't be receptive to and that made me love it all the more.


I definitely feel it's an album that should have been made. If it wasn't, I'd be drooling over the idea of PJ recording an electronica-influenced record. Maybe there is a little 'choirgirl' syndrome there in that the songs for the most part don't wow me for no reason other than there is no reason. For all I know, if 'Stories From The City' was electronica-ish, I might love it just the same.
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Reply #36 posted 12/15/06 2:54pm

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VoicesCarry said:

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She's definitely no Beth Orton lol


How so? smile

Well PJ's vocal range is sometimes scary lol Check out the last "love" in To Bring You My Love. If you're not convinced of her conviction then nothing else will lol Beth is quite light and airy to PJs richly dark intensity.
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Reply #37 posted 12/15/06 2:56pm

MikeMatronik

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

VoicesCarry said:



How so? smile

Well PJ's vocal range is sometimes scary lol Check out the last "love" in To Bring You My Love. If you're not convinced of her conviction then nothing else will lol Beth is quite light and airy to PJs richly dark intensity.




xmas
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Reply #38 posted 12/15/06 2:56pm

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How so? smile

She's just really extreme. The closest archtypes I can think of for her music are Nick Cave and Patti Smith, but that still doesn't really do her justice.

Her early records are maybe the most convincingly balls-out and heavy blues-rock ever recorded by a woman. She was absolutely fearless.

Listen to a song like "Hair" or "Missed" and I dare you not to feel it.

Her middle period is extremely theatrical and haunted sounding. She was really playing around with her image and sound from '95-'98.

Her newest stuff is probably the most palatable and refined.
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Reply #39 posted 12/15/06 2:56pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

VoicesCarry said:



How so? smile

Well PJ's vocal range is sometimes scary lol Check out the last "love" in To Bring You My Love. If you're not convinced of her conviction then nothing else will lol Beth is quite light and airy to PJs richly dark intensity.


nod

On her earlier albums, PJ sometimes sounds like her head is spinning around.
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Reply #40 posted 12/15/06 2:57pm

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MikeMatronik said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


Well PJ's vocal range is sometimes scary lol Check out the last "love" in To Bring You My Love. If you're not convinced of her conviction then nothing else will lol Beth is quite light and airy to PJs richly dark intensity.




xmas


She's more like PJ x 10.
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Reply #41 posted 12/15/06 2:59pm

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I know what you're saying. I was just bein a boob tease Strangely, Angels was an INSTANT hit with me nod And it's hilarious how hard and long I slept on Choirgirl cuz that shit is crazy amazing nod

Nothing from '98 was an instant hit for me other than "Ray of Light". Everything else I had to work at. It was a strange year.
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Reply #42 posted 12/15/06 3:00pm

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Great album! cool

omg
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Reply #43 posted 12/15/06 3:00pm

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GangstaFam said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


I know what you're saying. I was just bein a boob tease Strangely, Angels was an INSTANT hit with me nod And it's hilarious how hard and long I slept on Choirgirl cuz that shit is crazy amazing nod

Nothing from '98 was an instant hit for me other than "Ray of Light". Everything else I had to work at. It was a strange year.

I latched onto everything but choirgirl. How strange is that? lol
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Reply #44 posted 12/15/06 3:00pm

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MikeMatronik said:




Great album! cool

omg

Tricky cleans up really well don't he? lol
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Reply #45 posted 12/15/06 3:01pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


Well PJ's vocal range is sometimes scary lol Check out the last "love" in To Bring You My Love. If you're not convinced of her conviction then nothing else will lol Beth is quite light and airy to PJs richly dark intensity.


nod

On her earlier albums, PJ sometimes sounds like her head is spinning around.

I've heard her early voice described as an opera singer who swallowed a drum kit. lol
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Reply #46 posted 12/15/06 3:01pm

MikeMatronik

sextonseven said:

MikeMatronik said:





xmas


She's more like PJ x 10.


She's mesmerizing!

Still have to explore her catalog more and buy some her stuff
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Reply #47 posted 12/15/06 3:02pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I latched onto everything but choirgirl. How strange is that? lol

Choirgirl came late for me too. Desire even later. Angels was the first one I cracked about a month after it came out.
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Reply #48 posted 12/15/06 3:04pm

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GangstaFam said:

sextonseven said:



nod

On her earlier albums, PJ sometimes sounds like her head is spinning around.

I've heard her early voice described as an opera singer who swallowed a drum kit. lol

I have always thought of her as an opera diva gone mad nod
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Reply #49 posted 12/15/06 3:04pm

MikeMatronik

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I latched onto everything but choirgirl. How strange is that? lol

Choirgirl came late for me too. Desire even later. Angels was the first one I cracked about a month after it came out.




cool
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Reply #50 posted 12/15/06 3:05pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

GangstaFam said:


omg

Tricky cleans up really well don't he? lol

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Reply #51 posted 12/15/06 3:06pm

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GangstaFam said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


Tricky cleans up really well don't he? lol


Everytime I see your signature I get PJ hot flashes smile
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Reply #52 posted 12/15/06 3:07pm

MikeMatronik

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

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Everytime I see your signature I get PJ hot flashes smile


Tricky lips are very...arousing! eek
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Reply #53 posted 12/15/06 3:09pm

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Oh and Gangsta, I can't think of a more perfect place for me to have watched her DVD other than your place! mushy Mecca Mecca Mecca! touched
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Reply #54 posted 12/15/06 3:11pm

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I have always thought of her as an opera diva gone mad nod

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Reply #55 posted 12/15/06 3:13pm

Ace

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Her newest stuff is probably the most palatable and refined.

Maybe some of Stories, but I think someone's forgetting a little ditty called "Who the Fuck?" whistling lol
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Reply #56 posted 12/15/06 3:15pm

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I had a hard time breaking into Uh Huh Her but whenever I listened to it I always had in my mind how much you loved it Gangsta and it comforted me and made it easier for me to embrace. Now I love it nod Plus the b-sides you sent me for it love !!! I can't believe Uh Huh Her did not make it onto the album or any of the Bsides. They are class A album material nod
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Reply #57 posted 12/15/06 3:16pm

Ace

One of favourite PJ quotes (that doesn't seem to be anywhere on the 'Net), from a Details interview that was published well before that magazine was relaunched as a wack piece of shit:

INTERVIEWER: But you're the angry vagina of rock!

PJ: [laughs] Yes, I have a very hot and angry vagina.


lol
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Reply #58 posted 12/15/06 3:17pm

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I know what you're saying. I was just bein a boob tease Strangely, Angels was an INSTANT hit with me nod And it's hilarious how hard and long I slept on Choirgirl cuz that shit is crazy amazing nod

Nothing from '98 was an instant hit for me other than "Ray of Light". Everything else I had to work at. It was a strange year.


I just found my 1998 top 10:

The Miseducation Of Lauryn Hill
Madonna - Ray Of Light
PJ Harvey - Is This Desire?
Wendy & Lisa - Girl Bros.
Marilyn Manson - Mechanical Animals
Shadow Project - From The Heart
12 Rounds - My Big Hero
Tori Amos - from the choirgirl hotel hmm
Gitane Demone - Am I Wrong?
Mors Syphilitica - Primrose

What the hell happened that 'choirgirl' has so fallen out of favor with me since then? lol

I'd totally rearrange that list if I were to do it again now. Wendy & Lisa and Gitane would rank much higher.
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Reply #59 posted 12/15/06 3:18pm

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omg

Can't wait to read this!


me too!

will check it out when i'm out of work!
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