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Reply #30 posted 12/15/06 10:10am

NorthernLad

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There are some amazing tracks on that list. "I Didn't Get Where I Am Today" in particular ROCKS. It should have been a single.


Bright Young Things I was amazed was NOT chosen for Fundamental. Party Song, had Neil worked on his vocals better would have been a killer track on it too.


I agree, the Fundamental b-sides are particularly strong. "Fugitive" is another great one that should have been on the album.
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Reply #31 posted 12/15/06 10:12am

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PANDURITO said:

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I thought we had talked about this before, son comfort
You must not give a damn what others may think about the music you like.
If you like it, enjoy it nod


Exactly! You don't have to be defined by the music you like. Though one could construe that someone is one way or another based on his music choices...but maybe you just like cheesey synth euro pop, which is what most of what you like is.

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Reply #32 posted 12/15/06 10:14am

MikeMatronik

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PANDURITO said:


I thought we had talked about this before, son comfort
You must not give a damn what others may think about the music you like.
If you like it, enjoy it nod


Exactly! You don't have to be defined by the music you like. Though one could construe that someone is one way or another based on his music choices...but maybe you just like cheesey synth euro pop, which is what most of what you like is.


you really don't know me...
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Reply #33 posted 12/15/06 10:21am

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No, just kidding. I must admit that I wanted to run from the gay stigma of liking the PSB. BUT... they have some amazing tracks out there.

Maybe now I have grown somewhat older and wiser (coughs) I might be able to get into them.

Isten... teach me.


The PSB are quite sophisticated. I know they are gay, but their music transends that. I think sometimes their dance anthems give them the "gay" stigma. I was totally turned off by them during the Bilingul period. I remember after song 4, I really did not like the music. Se a vida e and red letter day ill Then Nightlife came out and right before I was going to buy it I heard NYCB and I was like HELL NO ...I was not going to get that as I thought they had lost their gay minds. I pretty much ignored them until PopArt.

Then something happened and I fell in love with them all over again. Picked up the albums I didn't have. Nightlife was actually pretty good and the songs that were played out in the clubs sounded very different on the album.

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Reply #34 posted 12/15/06 10:22am

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His knowledge of most music ahem...that is predominantly listened to by the gay community is astounding!


Damm I'm sick of those jokes! Really sick!


I seriously meant it as a compliment and trying not to call it gay music.

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Reply #35 posted 12/15/06 10:25am

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NorthernLad said:

superspaceboy said:



Bright Young Things I was amazed was NOT chosen for Fundamental. Party Song, had Neil worked on his vocals better would have been a killer track on it too.


I agree, the Fundamental b-sides are particularly strong. "Fugitive" is another great one that should have been on the album.


I could think of a few that Girls don't cry could have replaced as well. I liked FUndamental, but can't listen to it the way it is. I question the tracks actually on it vs. the B-Sides picked. It seems as though there was a direction for the album, but for some reason they decided to go with the 1/2 uptempo 1/2 ballad formula.

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Reply #36 posted 12/15/06 10:25am

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Damm I'm sick of those jokes! Really sick!


I seriously meant it as a compliment and trying not to call it gay music.


My musical taste isn't "cheesy pop music"...you should have known that
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Reply #37 posted 12/15/06 10:30am

NorthernLad

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NorthernLad said:



I agree, the Fundamental b-sides are particularly strong. "Fugitive" is another great one that should have been on the album.


I could think of a few that Girls don't cry could have replaced as well. I liked FUndamental, but can't listen to it the way it is. I question the tracks actually on it vs. the B-Sides picked. It seems as though there was a direction for the album, but for some reason they decided to go with the 1/2 uptempo 1/2 ballad formula.



I agree 100% about Fundamental - the material is there, but they botched the sequencing and song choice. I did my own version of it and it's much better to my taste cool

Of course, I've done my own version of ALL the PSB cds.... Yeah, I'm a geek. It's all good. biggrin
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Reply #38 posted 12/15/06 10:36am

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MikeMatronik said:

superspaceboy said:



Exactly! You don't have to be defined by the music you like. Though one could construe that someone is one way or another based on his music choices...but maybe you just like cheesey synth euro pop, which is what most of what you like is.


you really don't know me...
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you are right, I don't. I don't really claim to either. I truly apologize if I seem assuming, I don't mean to. I respect you presence on the org as well as your musical musings and knowledge.

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Reply #39 posted 12/15/06 10:45am

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NorthernLad said:

superspaceboy said:



I could think of a few that Girls don't cry could have replaced as well. I liked FUndamental, but can't listen to it the way it is. I question the tracks actually on it vs. the B-Sides picked. It seems as though there was a direction for the album, but for some reason they decided to go with the 1/2 uptempo 1/2 ballad formula.



I agree 100% about Fundamental - the material is there, but they botched the sequencing and song choice. I did my own version of it and it's much better to my taste cool

Of course, I've done my own version of ALL the PSB cds.... Yeah, I'm a geek. It's all good. biggrin


Well, I haven't gone that far. smile

My Fundamental CD

Party Song
Psycological
The Sodom and Gomorrah Show
Minimal
Fugitive
Blue On Blue
I'm with Stupid
Resurectionist
Girls DOn't Cry
20th Century
Bright Young Things
Integral

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Reply #40 posted 12/15/06 10:53am

NorthernLad

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NorthernLad said:




I agree 100% about Fundamental - the material is there, but they botched the sequencing and song choice. I did my own version of it and it's much better to my taste cool

Of course, I've done my own version of ALL the PSB cds.... Yeah, I'm a geek. It's all good. biggrin


Well, I haven't gone that far. smile

My Fundamental CD

Party Song
Psycological
The Sodom and Gomorrah Show
Minimal
Fugitive
Blue On Blue
I'm with Stupid
Resurectionist
Girls DOn't Cry
20th Century
Bright Young Things
Integral



Nice! Interesting choice of Party Song to lead off the album. Why do I have the feeling that Neil wrote that song after some record exec said, "why don't you record an uptempo party song like Go West?" LOL cool

But where's Numb?!?!?! Gotta love Diane Warren wink I actually do like that song - it was great live - but hearing Neil sing the line "I don't wanna feel this pain no more" is a bit jarring, I'll admit.
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Reply #41 posted 12/15/06 10:58am

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Fundamental suffered the same sickness of Release: slowness.

But after albums like Bilingual and Nightlife... lol
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Reply #42 posted 12/15/06 11:21am

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NorthernLad said:

superspaceboy said:



Well, I haven't gone that far. smile

My Fundamental CD

Party Song
Psycological
The Sodom and Gomorrah Show
Minimal
Fugitive
Blue On Blue
I'm with Stupid
Resurectionist
Girls DOn't Cry
20th Century
Bright Young Things
Integral



Nice! Interesting choice of Party Song to lead off the album. Why do I have the feeling that Neil wrote that song after some record exec said, "why don't you record an uptempo party song like Go West?" LOL cool

But where's Numb?!?!?! Gotta love Diane Warren wink I actually do like that song - it was great live - but hearing Neil sing the line "I don't wanna feel this pain no more" is a bit jarring, I'll admit.


Party SOng is quite Menacing and would be a good opener (though Psycological is a good one too) Numb was left off as I wanted a more upbeat vibe. I like the song but it disturbed the flow.

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Reply #43 posted 12/15/06 11:24am

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MikeMatronik said:

Fundamental suffered the same sickness of Release: slowness.

But after albums like Bilingual and Nightlife... lol


Release had it's own issues beyond slowness. It was almost a complete departure from everything they had done. The new "behavior" it wasn't either. Release was almost devoid of any dance music and synths. It's a hard album for me to sit through, though I like some of the songs a lot, like Home and Dry, Email, London...but the others were so so. Has anyone seen the video for Home and Dry with the rat in the gutter...that should have been a clue lol

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Reply #44 posted 12/15/06 11:52am

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superspaceboy said:

NorthernLad said:

There are some amazing tracks on that list. "I Didn't Get Where I Am Today" in particular ROCKS. It should have been a single.


Bright Young Things I was amazed was NOT chosen for Fundamental. Party Song, had Neil worked on his vocals better would have been a killer track on it too.


PSB's b-sides are so amazingly strong that they do weild enough material for their own justifiable albums/EPs. You can seriously say that for every album. I like all their albums but if you did a little switch around with b-sides, yes, nearly every album could be even better but maybe not as tight in concept/sound.
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Reply #45 posted 12/15/06 12:06pm

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I think it's time for Alternative 2 nod

I'm listening to Alternative 2 CD2 right now and loving it
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Break 4 Love
Sexy Northerner
Always
Friendly Fire
Searching for the face of Jesus
Between two islands
We're the Pet Shop Boys
Transparent
I didn't get where I am today
The Resurrectionist
Girls Don't Cry
Blue on blue
No Time for Tears
Bright young things
Party song
music
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Reply #46 posted 12/15/06 12:24pm

NorthernLad

superspaceboy said:

MikeMatronik said:

Fundamental suffered the same sickness of Release: slowness.

But after albums like Bilingual and Nightlife... lol


Release had it's own issues beyond slowness. It was almost a complete departure from everything they had done. The new "behavior" it wasn't either. Release was almost devoid of any dance music and synths. It's a hard album for me to sit through, though I like some of the songs a lot, like Home and Dry, Email, London...but the others were so so. Has anyone seen the video for Home and Dry with the rat in the gutter...that should have been a clue lol


I really liked "Release". I thought the overall mood was really cool, and it had some good things on it. It could definitely have been stronger, but I play it quite a bit. "Birthday Boy" is one of my favorites... love the lyrics, and the sound of Neil's voice. Very intense song.
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Reply #47 posted 12/15/06 12:44pm

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Bright Young Things I was amazed was NOT chosen for Fundamental. Party Song, had Neil worked on his vocals better would have been a killer track on it too.


PSB's b-sides are so amazingly strong that they do weild enough material for their own justifiable albums/EPs. You can seriously say that for every album. I like all their albums but if you did a little switch around with b-sides, yes, nearly every album could be even better but maybe not as tight in concept/sound.


What's funny is that back when...their B-Sides were just that. I think it was around the time of Very when the B-Sides were almost as good as the A-Sides. Thing is I can see why Blue on Blue, Party Song, Fugitive and Resurectionis were not chosen. I believe Neil goes for the lyric and if he feels something is trite he'll opt not to put it as an A Side or on an album for that matter.

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Reply #48 posted 12/15/06 1:31pm

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"It's my little tribute to Caligula...DARRRRLIINNNGGG!"
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