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Thread started 12/08/06 5:37pm

dancerella

Madonna - The next best thing!

Ok guys this needs to be discussed. What do you all think of her acting in the film "the next best thing" with Rupert Everett? I actually like the film but is it me or does she seem like a gay british drag queen? I don't know but her acting was kind of strange to me.
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Reply #1 posted 12/08/06 5:55pm

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There were lot of things wrong with that movie. 1st off, she was 2 old 4 the part. They did make that great "boob-lift" joke, but other than that, her obvious age was not mentioned. 2nd, Rupert Everett hated the original screenplay and demanded that he do the re-write and basically made it a movie about him and Madonna and the real-life friendship they enjoy. There was way 2 much "Madonna" added in2 the character of Abby after that. In the original script, she was a swimming instructor. In the final version, she teaches yoga (a very Madonna-like characteristic). There's lots of others, but yeah, it was pretty bad.
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Reply #2 posted 12/08/06 6:00pm

VoicesCarry

It's a terrible fucking movie. I mean an absolutely terrible fucking movie lol
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Reply #3 posted 12/08/06 6:01pm

dancerella

npgmaverick said:

There were lot of things wrong with that movie. 1st off, she was 2 old 4 the part. They did make that great "boob-lift" joke, but other than that, her obvious age was not mentioned. 2nd, Rupert Everett hated the original screenplay and demanded that he do the re-write and basically made it a movie about him and Madonna and the real-life friendship they enjoy. There was way 2 much "Madonna" added in2 the character of Abby after that. In the original script, she was a swimming instructor. In the final version, she teaches yoga (a very Madonna-like characteristic). There's lots of others, but yeah, it was pretty bad.



interesting....i guess i like it because it's kinda camp and i actually thought her acting was a bit better than some other films i've seen her in. i didn't realise they changed somethings to accomodate her. has that film killed Rupert's film career cuz i don't think i've seen him in anything else.
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Reply #4 posted 12/08/06 6:02pm

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It's a terrible fucking movie. I mean an absolutely terrible fucking movie lol



my goodness don't hold back now. biggrin what was wrong with it? i want to hear your opinion.
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Reply #5 posted 12/08/06 6:03pm

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dancerella said:

VoicesCarry said:

It's a terrible fucking movie. I mean an absolutely terrible fucking movie lol



my goodness don't hold back now. biggrin what was wrong with it? i want to hear your opinion.


Everything. It's an awful script, awful acting, awful EVERYTHING. The only people that liked this movie were Madge fams who wanted to see her hanging out with Rupert for two hours.
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Reply #6 posted 12/08/06 6:05pm

VoicesCarry

Oh, and can I just say this was John Schlesinger's last movie and he had certainly come a long way (down) from directing Midnight Cowboy, Logan's Run and Marathon Man. Working with Madonna must have killed him.
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Reply #7 posted 12/08/06 6:06pm

MikeMatronik

Madonna's acting skill are vasty overrated! lol
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Reply #8 posted 12/08/06 6:12pm

dancerella

MikeMatronik said:

Madonna's acting skill are vasty overrated! lol



i know she should have won an oscar for that role! biggrin it's hard playinga gay british drag queen when you're a straight american woman.
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Reply #9 posted 12/08/06 6:13pm

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VoicesCarry said:

dancerella said:




my goodness don't hold back now. biggrin what was wrong with it? i want to hear your opinion.


Everything. It's an awful script, awful acting, awful EVERYTHING. The only people that liked this movie were Madge fams who wanted to see her hanging out with Rupert for two hours.



what do you think she had to do in order to play this demanding role?
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Reply #10 posted 12/08/06 6:14pm

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dancerella said:

VoicesCarry said:



Everything. It's an awful script, awful acting, awful EVERYTHING. The only people that liked this movie were Madge fams who wanted to see her hanging out with Rupert for two hours.



what do you think she had to do in order to play this demanding role?


Not a lot. She got her hair dyed, I think. But really, Madonna pretty much always plays Madonna. Even Evita was pretty much Madonna. That's why she wanted to play her lol
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Reply #11 posted 12/08/06 6:17pm

MikeMatronik

Talking about Evita:

remember when Madonna wanted to "bone" Antonio Banderas on the Almodovar party (Truth or Dare!)


lol
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Reply #12 posted 12/08/06 6:28pm

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Rupert was HOT as usual!!!

I kinda liked the movie. Love the house that she lived in. wink

No, really. I liked it. Not the best film I´ve ever seen, but I liked it.
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Reply #13 posted 12/08/06 6:32pm

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last Madonna movie i saw. i decided to give up on her movie carear of that.
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Reply #14 posted 12/08/06 6:42pm

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ehuffnsd said:

last Madonna movie i saw. i decided to give up on her movie carear of that.


U picked the right time 2 tap out, considering what came next! lol
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Reply #15 posted 12/08/06 6:44pm

dancerella

dag said:

Rupert was HOT as usual!!!

I kinda liked the movie. Love the house that she lived in. wink

No, really. I liked it. Not the best film I´ve ever seen, but I liked it.



yeah, i mean it was a nice light movie. obviuously not the greatest but it was ok. i also thought she was good in Girl 6. what do you all think? why do you think madge is not a good actress?
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Reply #16 posted 12/08/06 6:45pm

VoicesCarry

dancerella said:

dag said:

Rupert was HOT as usual!!!

I kinda liked the movie. Love the house that she lived in. wink

No, really. I liked it. Not the best film I´ve ever seen, but I liked it.



yeah, i mean it was a nice light movie. obviuously not the greatest but it was ok. i also thought she was good in Girl 6. what do you all think? why do you think madge is not a good actress?


Because we've suffered enough to know. You weren't serious with this question, right?
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Reply #17 posted 12/08/06 6:47pm

PricelessHo

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Excellent soundtrack, Terrible film
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Reply #18 posted 12/08/06 6:48pm

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npgmaverick said:

ehuffnsd said:

last Madonna movie i saw. i decided to give up on her movie carear of that.


U picked the right time 2 tap out, considering what came next! lol



yeah Madonna the actor is dead to me. Though i cherish Desperately Seeking Susan Who's That Girl and A League of Their Own.
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Reply #19 posted 12/08/06 7:12pm

dancerella

VoicesCarry said:

dancerella said:




yeah, i mean it was a nice light movie. obviuously not the greatest but it was ok. i also thought she was good in Girl 6. what do you all think? why do you think madge is not a good actress?


Because we've suffered enough to know. You weren't serious with this question, right?



it is a serious question. what specificaly makes her a bad actress?
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Reply #20 posted 12/08/06 7:29pm

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dancerella said:

VoicesCarry said:



Because we've suffered enough to know. You weren't serious with this question, right?



it is a serious question. what specificaly makes her a bad actress?


Madonna herself finds it hard to escape the overwhelming presence of Madonna, therefore making it impossible to sespend disbelief that she is someone else other than Madonna. That's why roles like Susan, Breathless, All the Way Mae, and Evita are better for her because they are similar to the public facade of Madonna everyone is familiar with.
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Reply #21 posted 12/08/06 7:33pm

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Seeing Madonna act makes Prince seem like Denzel! lol
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Reply #22 posted 12/08/06 7:43pm

dancerella

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Seeing Madonna act makes Prince seem like Denzel! lol



too funny! you're saying prince can't act either??
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Reply #23 posted 12/08/06 7:45pm

dancerella

ehuffnsd said:

dancerella said:




it is a serious question. what specificaly makes her a bad actress?


Madonna herself finds it hard to escape the overwhelming presence of Madonna, therefore making it impossible to sespend disbelief that she is someone else other than Madonna. That's why roles like Susan, Breathless, All the Way Mae, and Evita are better for her because they are similar to the public facade of Madonna everyone is familiar with.



i see what you mean. it's weird because there are few actors that i think aren't very good. i mean , you have to be terrible like pamela anderson for me to say an actor is that bad but Madge certainly comes close.
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Reply #24 posted 12/08/06 7:50pm

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dancerella said:

thekidsgirl said:

Seeing Madonna act makes Prince seem like Denzel! lol



too funny! you're saying prince can't act either??


I absolutely love Prince's movies and I wish he would make more
BUT! I'm not some jaded fam that thinks he's a good actor lol


but his acting is 10 times better than Madonna ANY day! Who keeps giving her roles

WAIT, I gotta admit, Evita was ok...so I'll take some of that back confused
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Reply #25 posted 12/08/06 7:55pm

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ehuffnsd said:

npgmaverick said:



U picked the right time 2 tap out, considering what came next! lol



yeah Madonna the actor is dead to me. Though i cherish Desperately Seeking Susan Who's That Girl and A League of Their Own.


biggrin I love those movies! The last decent movie I saw with Madonna in it was "Girl 6", and even in that she kinda played herself.
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Reply #26 posted 12/08/06 8:06pm

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I go back and 4th cuz there's been movies she was appaulingly bad in ("Body of Evidence" any1?) and then there's bad movies that she was decent in ("Dangerous Game", "Dick Tracy") and then there's great movies that she was great in ("A League of Their Own"? SUPERB!)

I've said it before and I'll say it again, her per4mance in "Evita" was nothing short of a revelation. She brought such a depth and humanity 2 Eva Peron that was never conveyed in the stage version. This 2 me is incredibly ironic bcuz Eva Peron is portrayed in the stage show as this shallow, fame-obsessed, opportunistic b*tch (all the things Madonna's detractors have said about her over the years), whereas in the film, Madonna showed Eva's flaws andattributes. In other words, she made Evita human.
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Reply #27 posted 12/08/06 8:08pm

GangstaFam

Hated it. I actually left the theatre angry.
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Reply #28 posted 12/08/06 8:10pm

VoicesCarry

dancerella said:

VoicesCarry said:



Because we've suffered enough to know. You weren't serious with this question, right?



it is a serious question. what specificaly makes her a bad actress?


Because Madonna is all she can play!
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Reply #29 posted 12/08/06 8:17pm

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Because Madonna is all she can play!

I have a theory.

See, I think she's totally believable in her own videos and concerts. Whatever emotion she's trying to convey, she gets across wonderfully.

But it's her speaking voice. It just doesn't translate well to movies. She constantly sounds like she's reading from cue-cards. And I think that's why she's so stiff and wooden. There's just nothing natural and easy about the way she delivers a line.

And I think that's why something like Evita works. She doesn't have to talk!

Other movies like Desperately Seeking Susan and Truth or Dare work too, cuz it's just her.
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