Harlepolis said:

Most of her stuff post 96 is Jeter based! (She just per4med to him & his team a few weeks ago in a private party btw)




This shout give you an excellent insight:



A Warm November Night


Past lovers Mariah Carey and Derek Jeter are sure to cross paths tonight at the Chelsea Piers during the 4th Annual Joe Torre Safe at Home Foundation Gala. Joe Torre is, of course, the manager of the New York Yankees baseball team and Jeter is their prize shortstop. Mariah has been slated to be the performer at the event, which serves to bring awareness to domestic violence. It’s a riddle to me of how Mariah was booked for this charity event. It’s well known that the Yankee’s owner George Steinbrenner was not a fan of Mariah Carey. During the relationship, Derek would be asked about his girlfriend instead of baseball and her presence at Spring Training could have been seen as a distraction. Steinbrenner denies reports that he made it known to Jeter that he should keep his girlfriend away from the ballpark.

The stars claimed that their relationship began after Mariah’s separation from Tommy Mottola and it seems that they have moved on with their respective lives. So why is this chance meeting worth talking about? It’s about timing!

Here are the facts:

- Mariah moved out of the Bedford Mansion into her mother’s house in December of 1996
- A legal separation was announced in May of 1997
- The divorce was final in 1998

Speaking of 1998, it was that year that The New York Post ran a story about Mariah Carey’s former limo driver, Franco D’Onofrio. D’Onofrio chauffeured Mariah for four years and became very vocal about his customer’s travels. He claimed that in the fall of 1995, he began helping Mariah carry out her secret late night meetings with Derek Jeter. His account was that he would drop her off a block away from East 79th Street where Jeter resided and that he would pick her up four hours later. “She’d be wearing no makeup, looking disheveled, and he’d drive her back up to her home”, said a close friend of Franco.

1995? Is it possible that Mariah became involved with Jeter in 1995? This is the year that Derek Jeter was brought to the Major Leagues by the New York Yankees after another player was placed on the disabled list. Okay, so the timing and location coincide. 1995 may be a little too early but former journalist A.J. Benza has recollections from 1996. He records in his 2001 book, “Fame: Ain’t It a Bitch” that his first interview with Mariah was during the inception of her vanity label “Crave”. It’s known that the label was being developed during 1996 since the first album release was from a group called Allure in May of 1997. The Benza interview was mandated by her current husband Mottola to help churn better press about their marriage. It was conducted in the Spy nightclub where Mariah’s group, including Derek Jeter, was huddled on a perch. Benza notes that he found himself falling for her after a five-minute chat but was forced to lean over Jeter to get some quotes.

In his book “The Life You Imagine” Derek, himself, claims that he met Mariah at a charity function for the Fresh Air Fund in November 1996 and that their relationship lasted only 6 months. “I know some people have written and want to believe -- our romance started that day, but that's not true. I barely even talked with her that first day”, Derek proclaims. What does Mariah say about that November night? From the song “The Roof” released in 1997:


"It was definitely a little misty on that warm November night / And my heart was pounding / My inner voice resounding / Begging me to turn away … And then you casually walked in the room / And I was twisted in the web of my desire for you / My apprehension blew away / I only wanted you / To taste my sadness As you kissed me in the dark"

Hey! You make your own conclusion. I’ll just again give you the fact that Mariah moved out of Bedford the next month! You may be interested in these other lyrics that have been speculated to be about Jeter, five years after the demise of their relationship. From the song “Subtle Invitation” released in 2003:

"That you're still somewhat / Attached to the dream / Of being in love once again / When it's clear they've moved on ... And if you happen to be somewhere listening / ... Baby all you ever need to do / (I'm quite sure you know) is call me and let love rush in (that this one's for you) / (cause I'm giving "My All")"

“My All” was, of course, a song released in 1997 during the time of Mariah and Jeter’s relationship.

From the song “Lullaby“ released in 2003:

"And we can revisit us one more time / Yes, I'll come home with you tonight ... So here we are again / All by ourselves / So familiar you know / That it actually almost feels like deja vu / Of that night on the roof / We kissed under the sky amid city lights"

Here is seems that she is alluding to that November night in 1996. Songs like this fuel speculation that five years later she was still writing about a relationship that supposedly only lasted six months.

Maybe this quote from a 2005 edition of Allure Magazine can explain the mystery:


“I ask if it's true that, since the Declaration of Independence states that we are ‘endowed by God,’ Jeter was more endowed than others, Carey whoops with delight. ‘Oh, my goodness!’ she squeals, and then collects herself. ‘No comment, dahhhling,’ she purrs. ‘Put it just like that. And make sure 'dahhhling' is spelled d-a-h-h-h-l-i-n-g.’”

Of course, I kid I kid. It seems that Mariah is very happy with her current boyfriend, Mark Sudack, an executive member of her current record label, a man whom she's been rumored to be dating since at least 2003, and someone who has earned a great reputation with Mariah’s fans. We certainly wish them all the luck.
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She obviously still treasure that relationship even though they both have moved on (or so it seems). Plus, she's good friends with Jeter's sister and parents


P.S. the dress from the dinner party night


[Edited 12/8/06 4:55am]

Yeah, he must've put the voodoo on her to be following him and his team she still got it bad over him, I see. Considering that Mariah is the "next" type of gal, good ol' Derek must've been a SPECIAL fella.

That was a revealing article btw

I thought it was Luis who had a grip on her the last few years.

JackieBlue said:

Well, lyrically anyway. I think she's recovered from him.

I'm definately a character. I felt kinda inspired by my girl Supernova (an org legend) with that remark.
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JackieBlue said:

Not anymore from the way it seems.

Breakdown
Vision Of Love
Anytime You Need A Friend
One sweet day

SoulAlive said:

Co-Sign.....The reason that this song is good is because of the real instruments being played as opposed to some computerized drumming and keyboards. You can't beat the B-3, live bass, drums etc.....The vocals are superb as well. Screw all of the running and just sing the words.

These are my favorites:

"Someday"
"Emotions" (for some reason, I like some of her screaming on key songs)
"Make It Happen"
"Fantasy" (ODB Re-mix)
"Always Be My Baby" (Da Brat/Xscape Remix)
"One Sweet Day" (A capella version)
"Breakdown"
"Butterfly"
"Babydoll"
"Clown"
"Want You" (w/ Eric Benet)
"Bliss" (could have done with a little less screaming, but I still like it)
"We Belong Together"
"Fly Like a Bird"
"Don't Forget About Us"

Re-makes:
"Endless Love" (w/ Luther Vandross)
"Open Arms"


Many of the remixes on her singles are usually better than the version that ends up on the album IMO.

Jeter & Mariah broke up 'cause of the fame factor as was hinted by her a couple of times.

Luis, from what have been said, has cheated on her even though she denied it. She's the one he lasted with the most amongst his past girlfriends and from what it seemed he geniunly wanted things to work with her, but according to Mariah "we've been on and off a lot but that relationship has actually lasted more than it should have". So between her denying it and him still talking very nice of her ever since the break up, it somewhat assures the cheating.

So Luis's shares of her songwriting are very slim, probably "You Had Your Chance" and that's all about it, even though it could be also Motolla-targeted

My preference is her early material...

Vision Of Love
I Don't Wanna Cry
Love Takes Time
If It's Over
Never Forget You
Just To Hold You Once Again
All I've Ever Wanted
The Wind
Hero
Anytime You Need A Friend
Underneath The Stars
I Am Free
Looking In
Outside

...But what do I know. I'm a sucker for real singers that can sell a ballad.
I can almost listen to her first 3 albums without hitting the skip button.

She ran off the track, IMO, when she dumped her original direction and got the hippity-hop fever.


tA

Tribal Disorder

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