Yes, the pope incident....

Many of you probably saw this when it first aired. What do you all think, did people overreact?

http://www.youtube.com/wa...n5uY9etyEo

I love Sinead's music but that was a cheap stunt that she did. There was definitely an over-reaction, but she shouldn't have done it in the first place.

If she wanted to make a valid point about the Pope, there are a myriad of intelligent ways to do it - via an interview, or a song, or even from stage at her own concert. But in that situation, on a show like that, it was totally inappropriate and ended up seriously marring her career.

She's a brilliant singer/songwriter, but she strikes me as someone who lets impulses overtake her good sense from time to time. But that's just my 2 cents

I remember seeing that, and the hoopla over it.



A damn shame that for alot that tepid performance sticks in their minds more than other performances that she's given. A very talented performer that lady is.

Well, first, you gotta love that Bob Marley song she did. Second, to a lot of people, if you're not uptight and were up on world events of that time, the point she was making was well taken.

She chose kind of a dumb way to go about getting her point across, but yeah, people definitely overreacted.

I wish someone had a link to Madonna's Bad Girl performance on SNL a year or so later when she held up a pic of Joey Buttafucco (sp?) and said the same quote. Gotta love that bitch.

Sinead was (is?) Rastaferi and they believe that Babylon is mostly the RC church. Plus she was abused by Nuns in the place she lived growing up. Doesn't make for a person happy with the church and the leader of the church. She may be a bit wacko but not unreasonably so considering her background.

People definitely over-reacted. Crushing her CDs in the street and booing her at the Bob Dylan tribute, I mean he used to be fairly controversial himself

I think she was brave.

Shame mohammed doesn't a picture...

go2theMax said:

Having met her a few times, the woman is a hypocrite. She was very quick and public to denounce Shane MacGowan for his drug intake, conveniently forgetting about her own...(sniff sniff)

I love her. In recent years she became one of my favourite vocalists ever.



Brilliant album. Listening to it at the moment. Morlough Shore

As for the pope incident, I hate the idea of giving a religous figure endless power.

Too bad she apologized afterwards
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LightOfArt said:

I haven`t heard this album, but i LOVE her "Am i not your girl" cd

btw, have you heard "Make me a channel of your peace"?

Beautiful...

http://www.youtube.com/wa...Ao_CgwdkPY

Had she done it any other way no-one would have cared. Brilliant move.

Icicle said:

I'm at work but I'll get back to it when home. What album is it on?

I only have ''She who dwells...'' a double album. First disc has some Irish folk song over raggae beats. Which I loved!

Disc 2 is a live concert from the Live In Dublin DVD. Which is also brilliant. Nice band and rework of classics like Nothing Compares To You and John I Love You etc. They sound more mysterious than the originals. A bit celtic flavour in them.

Definetely worth to buy

LightOfArt said:

You do that, and tell me wht you think

I think it`s only available on the princess Diana tribute cd.

I`ll have to check out the album youn mentioned. Thanks

Cloudbuster said:

a-the fuck-men...

sosgemini said:

You think anybody paid serious attention to what she was trying to say? No... all anybody talked about was her ridiculous stunt.

People aren't going to pay heed to the message when they can't abide the messenger. And, in fact, nobody paid attention to it. She just succeeded in making herself the butt of jokes and the object of scorn, which in turn probably did more harm than good towards whatever point she may have thought she was trying to make.

I don't disagree with her point, but it was sheer idiocy to do what she did.

MikeMatronik said:

Prophet Mohammed doesn't have anything to do with the madness 2day. Its not his fault that people misinterpret his messages.

NorthernLad said:

but my understanding was that she was trying to make her point before hand and nobody would listen to her...and in fact, nobody listened to her and many others for over a decade. dont blame her for the media and the public at larges blind sight.

Lauryn Hill did the same thing, somewhat.

She was invited to a famous cathedral in Italy couple of years ago where she sang a number and then protested @ the end of the song to stop the "child abuse" in the church . But I remember her getting alot of backlash afterward, and when she came back to the states they asked her about it and she said "Thats the truth. How can the truth be an offence?". Something to that effect.

Anybody remember that?

It wasn't exactly as confrontational as Sinead's incident,,,but they implied the same attitude.

Harlepolis said:

I agree. I said that because of the reaction those cartoon add. No intention to ofend any muslins...

Shame the word of God is only understood the way that the reader wants it to go.

Islam is infact very tolerant. This holy war scenario only started in retaliation of the crusades that christians did in the early middle age
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There's a completely different standard for different people. If Marilyn Manson did it nobody would care.

I think her own sensitivity contributed to it. She was hurt by people's anger, which fed their anger more.

the usage of religion iconography was never consensual. Especially when expressing views or as a form of contesting a situation.

Religion is a veryn touchy subject.

sosgemini said:

I third that thought! Here's her explanation for it, and it makes perfect sense. It was not a stunt. Rather thoughtful, I think. I kinda get sick watching her get booed off stage in this clip. I can only imagine the horror.

http://www.youtube.com/wa...s8bUujGvLg
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Thanks for posting this TR!

Icicle said:

It's been documented in our world history of a lot of bad things that the Roman Catholic Church has done (like killing anyone or anything that didn't agree with them). And please don't me started about the decades of child raping incidents that are still not accounted for.

Sinead was right to some degree.

sosgemini said:

Pass the collection plate!

Harlepolis said:

I do. And I can only imagine that John Paul almost die of a heartattack because of L-Boogie!

I visited the Vatican once.

A fun fact:
Since it is recognized as a country, it's technically considered as the world's smallest country. Therefore it's holds the record as the country with the most Burger King restaurants per capita, even though there's only one.

I ate there twice. I got one of those paper crowns,
but there, it's shaped like the Pope's big hat.